Os Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Is there a way of controlling the number of grafts. You can count the spots but never sure there is a graft in it. Maybe some kind of photography or photos to take in an independent hospital who can look just under the skin.? Because I am very unsure if i have had the number of grafts i was promised. and I have my own old hair too between the new ones... Difficult. Please help me, I am so unsure, i want to know the truth... thx a lot (my transplant took place some days ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 Is there a way of controlling the number of grafts. You can count the spots but never sure there is a graft in it. Maybe some kind of photography or photos to take in an independent hospital who can look just under the skin.? Because I am very unsure if i have had the number of grafts i was promised. and I have my own old hair too between the new ones... Difficult. Please help me, I am so unsure, i want to know the truth... thx a lot (my transplant took place some days ago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kaounis Posted April 25, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 25, 2009 First off, you have to have faith in your Dr....There should be no reason for them to charge you more than what they planted...They will eventually get caught...you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time...And no, there is no real way to tell exactly what has been grafted...I too am 4 days out from 2000 grafts into existing hair, and I swear for the life of me I can't see a thing...No joke..You are just going to have to wait and see what your growth will be...in about 5 to 6 months...maybe in 3 if your lucky....Hope this helps....Happy growing... Just a thought from thje peanut gallery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 I think there must be a scientific fotography. or even something with special lightning photography that can verify that. I really wanna know because otherwise i become crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kaounis Posted April 25, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 25, 2009 Trust me, this is my second surgery, shaved for the first but not the second, I couldn't tell with either...Besides even if you could...whats to say that they will all "take" and grow anyways?...Stop obssesing about numbers, it's quality and technique along with Dr. expertise that will detirmine your final outcome...Just relaxe...and enjoy the ride... Just a thought from the peanut gallery.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 come on? The more you plant the bigger the chance more come out. If you pay (with pleasure) for X number grafts, you have to get X ones. Like if you buy 5000 trees, probebly some will not survive but if you pay for 5000 and you get 2500 , I think there is a problem... So I will relax like you said but I will find out as well to be sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TheEmperor Posted April 25, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 25, 2009 My camera magnifies and focuses when very close up. I have some close detail shots from after my surgery. Its very possible to make out how many incisions there were. If the area was shaved prior to planting, you could mark the area into sectors and take close up photos of the area, enabling you to count. My Hair Loss Web Site - Hair Transplant with Dr. Wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miked Posted April 25, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 25, 2009 Os Who was your doctor? if he was a member here you risks of being stiffed drop substantially (or at least I'd like to think so). if on the other hand you were on safari and had your HT done in Zimbawe on a whim, then the odds go up somewhat that you got taken advantage of. Someone posted recently that they went in for 6000 grafts and the procedure was over and done in 2 hours. Now that would cause me some concern regardless the number of holes that I could count on my head. Bottom line is that there is little hope of traceability involved. Your scalp strip may have had x grafts. Of these X-Y were properly extracted. X-Y-Z survived the handling and X-Y-Z-W were properly placed in your scalp. of that number X-Y-Z-W-Q will find a healthy blood supply in time and prosper. I feel Y, Z, W and Q all get smaller (and number of grafts successfully planted approaches those extracted from the donor area) as the skill and integrity of the doctor and their staff increases. My 2 cents My Hair Loss Blog - Hair Transplant with Dr. Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Janna Posted April 25, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 25, 2009 Hi Os, I'm afraid it's going to be almost impossible to check at 4 days post op to see if you have follicles planted or not in the incisions. The only way you'd be able to tell is if you take a forcep by basically "dig" into the incisions to check for grafts. Some grafts have very short hairs or almost no hairs so it's hard to tell. Your incisions at this point is closed and wouldn't be able to check with a forcep. Kounais makes very good points. At this point, you'll have to trust that you made the right choice in doctor/clinic. Best wishes. Patient Care Services & UK Patient Advisor for Shapiro Medical Dr. Ron Shapiro, Dr. Paul Shapiro and Dr. David Josephitis are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. http://shapiromedical.com/info@shapiromedical.com http://shapiromedical.com/contact/request-a-consultation/janna@shapiromedical.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hi everyone, I donnot understand that x y z w q thing . It was a FUE by the way. ... I can photograph the skin and the grafts are with a zoom clearly viewable,... but my basic question is how can I photograph so I see that a sign of a graft is inside. (for instance at a hospital)? There must exist an instrumentphotograph with laser or lightning ... to check what is just under the skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SERIOUS Posted April 26, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hi Os, Can you tell us who was the doctor? That way we might be able to help you more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 no, I realize that I have to figure it out myself to give me some certainty on a scientific base. And if I have that and they gave me what was on the contract, I will praise them but if not they will have a problem. So no names before my investigation. And if they are maybe here on this site (you never know) and they think they made a mistake, it is not too late yet to make a deal, if they think they have done what was in the contract, then it is just me who is overreacting and I will prease them into heaven like I said. (me: had long hair, 3000 grafts, was panicing openly during operation about number of grafts on the second day). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miked Posted April 26, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 26, 2009 Os apologies about my crytic explanation above. here are some thoughts. Most doctors these days take really good high res pictures at each stage of the procedure. Ask your doctor or their staff for a set of those (if you click on my blog link below I have posted some of the ones I received from my Doctor). it should at least show you the outline of the shaved strip and then pre and post of the placed grafts. this may help alleviate your fears. as a baseline i had approx 3000 grafts done recently. 1 surgeon cutting two techs placing. we started promptly around 6:30 am broke for lunch and i left their office around 8 pm after a brief post op consult. was that similar to your experience? or did it seem more like a drive thru? My Hair Loss Blog - Hair Transplant with Dr. Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyk67 Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 How many hours did your session last? This is a critical point.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member kaounis Posted April 26, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 26, 2009 Os, if your so certain you didn't get what you were promissed, or you can't verify it for sure, then that tells me you don't trust the Dr. you went to....if that is the case...and I am hoping for your sake it is not, the # of grafts should be the least of your worries...I know of a guy who had 2 FUE sessions of over 4500 grafts totall, and he wasn't even all that bald, they were planted...but almost nothing grew...he actually lost more because of transection and shock loss...he just recently had strip to try and repair the damage that the other hack did to him...That's why I am telling you to worry more about the surgeon and his skills, over wheather he grafted 5 and got paid for 7....I think you have a lot to learn about how HT work....Good Luck Just a thought from the peanut gallery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 today (day 5 after surgery) i could take a photograph of the entire surface treated. And it is very clear where the spots are and on the other side where my old hair is. Tonight I start counting. What if I count half of the number I paid? Then ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member SERIOUS Posted April 27, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 27, 2009 Sounds like paranoia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 paranoia? I am well educated, completely psychologically healthy (always been like that) and feeling better each day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted April 27, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted April 27, 2009 Did the clinic offer or allow you to count the grafts? A session of your size had to be done by Bisanga ,Mwamba, HDC or Prohair. If it was one of these clinics Im totally confident you got what you paid for. If it was the Canadian clinic I wouldnt put it past them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 I did never say the clinic was not confident or had a bad service. Just wanna be sure they followed the contract... The investigation goes on... and I feel great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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