Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted January 4 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 4 43 minutes ago, Melvin- Admin said: Extracting all the grafts will leave a lot of scars on your hairline. Can’t agree with this Melvin. We’ve seen multiple Feriduni cases, and the Zarev one that you linked, which have not left any visible scarring. So it really depends on the patient & the surgeon as to whether there will be any visible scarring. The best work we’ve seen of this kind leaves either nothing visible, or very very minimal to point of not really being an issue. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted January 4 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 4 52 minutes ago, hxris-h said: Miln said he has to do one session removal graft and another session and so did ball heres some pictures Okay so that’s useful. I can see now the shape of the hairline. One thing that is technically wrong is that the temple recession points are actually a bit lower than the mid-centre point. It should be the other way around. The better news is that it doesn’t seem as though your hairline has been lowered too much at all. You might be able to have extractions in the temple corners to create a more natural recession & less flat hairline and then softer singles in the centre to cover any pluggy hairs meaning less extraction work than taking from the entire hairline. Either way, if you do go down the extraction route it’s three surgeries to extract, extract more & rebuild the hairline, then extract remaining stragglers & fine tune the hairline. The temple points are tricker in that you didn’t really have any to begin with, and they’ve gone in hard with thick grafts. Here you’ll need some de-bulking of the biggest grafts and more singles added. You may never get them to look completely ideal and it’ll take two or three sessions but it’s fixable. All of that said, I’ve seen much worse cases. The key is to take your time & not rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 4 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Berba11 said: Okay so that’s useful. I can see now the shape of the hairline. One thing that is technically wrong is that the temple recession points are actually a bit lower than the mid-centre point. It should be the other way around. The better news is that it doesn’t seem as though your hairline has been lowered too much at all. You might be able to have extractions in the temple corners to create a more natural recession & less flat hairline and then softer singles in the centre to cover any pluggy hairs meaning less extraction work than taking from the entire hairline. Either way, if you do go down the extraction route it’s three surgeries to extract, extract more & rebuild the hairline, then extract remaining stragglers & fine tune the hairline. The temple points are tricker in that you didn’t really have any to begin with, and they’ve gone in hard with thick grafts. Here you’ll need some de-bulking of the biggest grafts and more singles added. You may never get them to look completely ideal and it’ll take two or three sessions but it’s fixable. All of that said, I’ve seen much worse cases. The key is to take your time & not rush. Thankyou man for the advice , i’ll look into some clinics do you know any surgeons that i can look into who do these kind of repair cases then i can do bit research about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted January 5 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 5 7 hours ago, hxris-h said: Thankyou man for the advice , i’ll look into some clinics do you know any surgeons that i can look into who do these kind of repair cases then i can do bit research about them Dr Feriduni in Belgium is the master at these sorts of repairs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 5 6 hours ago, Berba11 said: Dr Feriduni in Belgium is the master at these sorts of repairs. Theres no repair work on his insta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member GeneralNorwood Posted January 5 Regular Member Share Posted January 5 7 hours ago, Berba11 said: Dr Feriduni in Belgium is the master at these sorts of repairs. Can you show examples? My first Hair Transplant - Eugenix 3514 Grafts (720 grafts on the temples) - Dr Priyadarshini Das Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jjalay Posted January 5 Regular Member Share Posted January 5 Your hair after your first hairtransplant doesnt look that bad, you are to young to think about getting another surgery even if you call it a repair. In your place i wouls stick to medication and postpone any thoughts about geting another hairtransplant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted January 5 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, hxris-h said: Theres no repair work on his insta May I suggest that using instagram as your primary mode of research is what's gotten you into this situation in the first place? Also, I can literally see two repair cases posted on his Instagram just 12 & 17 posts ago (both of which are showcased on this forum) in more detail by both the client and, in one case, the patient himself. Come on man... This forum has a perfectly healthy search function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted January 5 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 5 (edited) 56 minutes ago, GeneralNorwood said: Can you show examples? 1 hour ago, hxris-h said: Theres no repair work on his insta Try these the cases below. Also I would suggest following @Tommy1991who is having the first round of a significant hairline repair in April this year with Dr Feriduni. Tommy has been candid in documenting his earlier surgeries and I'm sure he'll keep a journal on here of his upcoming repair work. Edited January 5 by Berba11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 5 31 minutes ago, Berba11 said: May I suggest that using instagram as your primary mode of research is what's gotten you into this situation in the first place? Also, I can literally see two repair cases posted on his Instagram just 12 & 17 posts ago (both of which are showcased on this forum) in more detail by both the client and, in one case, the patient himself. Come on man... This forum has a perfectly healthy search function. Nah what got me into this situation I went through someone who claimed to be a so called hair transplant specialist who guides people to the right clinic and said had years of experience but ended up sending me to hair mill LOL i was gullible and plus i have autism but mistakes happen Decided to style it down to hide it to see how it looks still thin but if i put bit product and fibres and put it down it looks less noticeable can ride this look until i go for my repair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted January 5 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, hxris-h said: Nah what got me into this situation I went through someone who claimed to be a so called hair transplant specialist who guides people to the right clinic and said had years of experience but ended up sending me to hair mill LOL i was gullible and plus i have autism but mistakes happen Decided to style it down to hide it to see how it looks still thin but if i put bit product and fibres and put it down it looks less noticeable can ride this look until i go for my repair? Unfortunately the hair restoration industry is full of snakes and the marketplace is largely unregulated. Despite how badly people can get messed up, it's very much the Wild West out there, which is way spaces like this forum are invaluable as a research tool and, where needed, a support network. The fringe works pretty well for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 5 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 5 Just now, Berba11 said: Unfortunately the hair restoration industry is full of snakes and the marketplace is largely unregulated. Despite how badly people can get messed up, it's very much the Wild West out there, which is way spaces like this forum are invaluable as a research tool and, where needed, a support network. The fringe works pretty well for you. Yeah man thankyou for the information you given me man means a lot and i’m glad theres forums like this and yes I use to rock this look when i started thinning few years ago and in my teen years to hide my big forehead i might just brush it down certain to make it look less noticeable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member HairClinicPortugal Posted January 6 Regular Member Share Posted January 6 On 1/4/2024 at 11:44 PM, Berba11 said: Can’t agree with this Melvin. We’ve seen multiple Feriduni cases, and the Zarev one that you linked, which have not left any visible scarring. So it really depends on the patient & the surgeon as to whether there will be any visible scarring. The best work we’ve seen of this kind leaves either nothing visible, or very very minimal to point of not really being an issue. Depends on the punch used and scarring footprint plus skin. Small punches leave very minimal scaring so yes I agree also. 10 - 15 year ago was a different story however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted January 6 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 6 10 hours ago, hxris-h said: I went through someone who claimed to be a so called hair transplant specialist who guides people to the right clinic Would this be a YouTube influencer by any chance who's had a hair transplant and a beard transplant? GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 6 Just now, Gatsby said: Would this be a YouTube influencer by any chance who's had a hair transplant and a beard transplant? No it was someone of tiktok who sends people to clinics based on they budget he was nice guy i still chat to him and he no longer works with the clinic who ffd me up the clinic who did this refunded me thats why i didnt say the name i also have autism and my family wont let me fly abroad again and only in uk when i went to turkey i went with my uncle and my surgery was 12 hours with techs who didnt speak English 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted January 6 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, hxris-h said: No it was someone of tiktok who sends people to clinics based on they budget he was nice guy i still chat to him and he no longer works with the clinic who ffd me up the clinic who did this refunded me thats why i didnt say the name i also have autism and my family wont let me fly abroad again and only in uk when i went to turkey i went with my uncle and my surgery was 12 hours with techs who didnt speak English I'm so sorry to hear this. This is a really new low taking advantage of people with autism. I've been workin in autism for 33 years. There really needs to be further action around this case. It's beyond just a bad hair mill result. If this hit the news that a hair mill and the middle man were involved they would be toast. 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 6 Im tiktoker myself 65k followers I have loads kids my age messaging me about wanting get ht i tell them do your research dont make the mistake i did i could easily go make commission and send them to the same clinic i went but id never let someone go through same misery and my reputation means more to me then money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted January 6 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 6 You will get past this with a repair. If it's any consolation I'm also a repair patient. All the best! 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, Gatsby said: I'm so sorry to hear this. This is a really new low taking advantage of people with autism. I've been workin in autism for 33 years. There really needs to be further action around this case. It's beyond just a bad hair mill result. If this hit the news that a hair mill and the middle man were involved they would be toast. I know gatsby man its stressed me more then when I didn’t have hair i look in mirror insecure about my straight hairline and density i even spoke to john who went eugenixs even he said the same as you now my family are gonna help fund the next one and it is gonna cost me round £8000+ minimum and no 23 should have to go through this I guess i was gullible and took advantage off. Gatsby i did try dm you on insta for some advice few months ago. - on insta hxris.h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 6 12 hours ago, jjalay said: Your hair after your first hairtransplant doesnt look that bad, you are to young to think about getting another surgery even if you call it a repair. In your place i wouls stick to medication and postpone any thoughts about geting another hairtransplant. Its too straight hairline and low density im on the meds but how long should i wait to get repair the damage is done now so why not get the repair done asap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jjalay Posted January 6 Regular Member Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, hxris-h said: Its too straight hairline and low density im on the meds but how long should i wait to get repair the damage is done now so why not get the repair done asap? Because yor hairloss may progress further and the plan for a repair or second surgery in your case can be completely different in 5 years from now. You are to young to proceed with a second surgery and you already had an fue megasession. Its your head and you decide but i would be patience and try to think more on the long run. In compare to other really terrible hairline works i have seen yours is acceptable and not that bad as you think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 6 Just now, jjalay said: Because yor hairloss may progress further and the plan for a repair or second surgery in your case can be completely different in 5 years from now. You are to young to proceed with a second surgery and you already had an fue megasession. Its your head and you decide but i would be patience and try to think more on the long run. In compare to other really terrible hairline works i have seen yours is acceptable and not that bad as you think. Yh im gonna research first and be patient and stick to my medication regimen 0.08% topical fin and 0.25mg minoxdil oral and im trying to style it in certain way but its to thin and gappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jjalay Posted January 6 Regular Member Share Posted January 6 Just now, hxris-h said: Yh im gonna research first and be patient and stick to my medication regimen 0.08% topical fin and 0.25mg minoxdil oral and im trying to style it in certain way but its to thin and gappy You can always use thickening powder or some dermmatch to add more density, you still had native hair on the top before your hairtransplant and you dont know how you will look after a couple of years because you are too young. I would do better research and have a second surgery, if needed, after a couple of years when my hairloss is stabilised and can make a final plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellingham Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I’m in the same boat as you and hope to fix my hair in the future. Had mine done back in Turkey of last year and 3100 grafts was extracted. My donor area has signs of over harvesting and my goal is to have some of the hair replanted back to the donor area. If possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hxris-h Posted January 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 6 9 hours ago, Bellingham said: I’m in the same boat as you and hope to fix my hair in the future. Had mine done back in Turkey of last year and 3100 grafts was extracted. My donor area has signs of over harvesting and my goal is to have some of the hair replanted back to the donor area. If possible. Mines like that donor isn’t as noticeable if i have low fade , where you thinking doing repair i had 4050 grafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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