Suggestions and advices for this newbie

[pxalimited]

Hello from Serbia!

Been reading this forum for some time and I finally decided to make a topic. For quite long I wanted to ignore the fact that I was losing my hair, but I guess now I've come to terms with it and I am trying to figure out my next step. I guess that my type is norwood 2-3, my crown has some reduction in hair as well as my temples and now the front is starting to recede slowly too.

I've been 'treating' my problem since 2019, I had some bad experiences with doctors whose only goal was to take money from patients, I lost money on useless prp treatments, I even scheduled a hair transplant once in Serbia after an extensive research but cancelled it few days prior when I found out that the doctor's work was a total scam.

Last year I found doctor Sever from Hattingen hair , we even had a skype interview but he rejected me and told me to contact him after a year or more when I lose more hair.

Now the time has come and I think that maybe it is better to battle this head (and hair) on 😁 so even if i need a second transplant in the future I would avoid being bald-ish. But my choice now would be Istanbul due to finances.

I know that there are many experiences already written here, but somehow it makes me confused when I go through them and I am still getting used to what is where 😅 

I looked up Asmad clinic cause I've read some good reviews but I think they are too expensive for my budget.

If some experienced users would be kind to help me out with their Istanbul suggestions that aren't pricey I would be so grateful. Doesn't have to be first hand experience, just someone you heard or seen good work from.

 

Thanks in advance 😅

 

[ITA]

First of all, you shouldn't base your choice on cost alone, as it is easier said than done, not everyone has the opportunity to afford a world-renowned surgeon, but you must know that transplantation is not a trivial matter.  Quite the contrary, it is a serious surgery, and it is not to be faced lightly, because you may regret it for a lifetime, if something goes wrong.  As for Istanbul, you must know that it is the capital of the black market for hair transplants, there are hundreds of clinics (lots of hair mills) and pseudo-clinics (gangs of improvised who rent operating theaters where they have young trainees perform the procedures.  who the day before were waiters in some restaurant or driving taxis) and are to be avoided.  As for hair mills, there are some good ones and some not, if you want to play Russian Roulette, pick a good one and go, maybe you will be lucky ... or maybe not.

[pxalimited]

1 minute ago, Egy said:

First of all, you shouldn't base your choice on cost alone, as it is easier said than done, not everyone has the opportunity to afford a world-renowned surgeon, but you must know that transplantation is not a trivial matter.  Quite the contrary, it is a serious surgery, and it is not to be faced lightly, because you may regret it for a lifetime, if something goes wrong.  As for Istanbul, you must know that it is the capital of the black market for hair transplants, there are hundreds of clinics (lots of hair mills) and pseudo-clinics (gangs of improvised who rent operating theaters where they have young trainees perform the procedures.  who the day before were waiters in some restaurant or driving taxis) and are to be avoided.  As for hair mills, there are some good ones and some not, if you want to play Russian Roulette, pick a good one and go, maybe you will be lucky ... or maybe not.

Thanks for the suggestions and the info, but I am quite aware of what happens in Istanbul. And that is why I opened this topic.

The purpose is to get some good info and not the same facts that there are hair mills operating there cause it doesn't help anyone. There are many operating everywhere, in my country for example, every clinic is a hair mill. And dr Koray Erdogan is certainly not the only one with good results in Turkey.

I wouldn't like this to escalate to a point of discussing who makes good decisions based on what.

I asked for help.

 

[ITA]

7 minutes ago, pxalimited said:

Thanks for the suggestions and the info, but I am quite aware of what happens in Istanbul. And that is why I opened this topic.

The purpose is to get some good info and not the same facts that there are hair mills operating there cause it doesn't help anyone. There are many operating everywhere, in my country for example, every clinic is a hair mill. And dr Koray Erdogan is certainly not the only one with good results in Turkey.

I wouldn't like this to escalate to a point of discussing who makes good decisions based on what.

I asked for help.

And so we should tell you "Do you go to this one or do you go to the other one?  I do not understand!!

And it's not true that every clinic is a hair mill.

Edited May 25, 2021 by Egy

[pxalimited]

20 minutes ago, Egy said:

And so we should tell you "Do you go to this one or do you go to the other one?  I do not understand!!

And it's not true that every clinic is a hair mill.

What kind of reply is this?

Maybe you should re-read my post, I never asked of anyone to decide instead of me but for suggestions, nor that every clinic out there is a hair mill, what is unclear?

 

[ITA]

39 minutes ago, pxalimited said:

every clinic is a hair mill.

Did you write this yourself or am I wrong? 
 
 

 

41 minutes ago, pxalimited said:

I asked for help.

Not clear to me what kind of help you want?

[pxalimited]

1 hour ago, Egy said:

Did you write this yourself or am I wrong? 
 
 

 

 

You took a part of my sentence to argue here? What kind of clownery is that? 

Take your negativity elsewhere.

 

[ITA]

I'm sorry I took the time to answer you.  You already know everything there is to know, you will certainly choose well.  Good luck

[Melvin- Admin]

What does your hair loss look like?

[Britanium]

In Turkey I would always consider Dr Bicer as she is both affordable and does some excellent work. Also Dr Pekiner, HLC, Dr Demirsoy and if you was to consider ASMED then I would only chose the top option where Dr Erdogan does the work. Dr Keser doesn’t have many results here, but is well thought of on other forums. Hope this helps 🙏

[pxalimited]

2 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

In Turkey I would always consider Dr Bicer as she is both affordable and does some excellent work. Also Dr Pekiner, HLC, Dr Demirsoy and if you was to consider ASMED then I would only chose the top option where Dr Erdogan does the work. Dr Keser doesn’t have many results here, but is well thought of on other forums. Hope this helps 🙏

Thanks a lot 💪🏼 
Asmed offered me 3 packages including one where doctor does all the work and one that is cheaper when he does i guess half of it or incisions only. 

I looked up dr Bicer and it seems that she is more expensive when doing it manually but cheaper with a robot (?).

[Britanium]

It’s true she is cheaper with automated FUE as it’s less physically demanding. It’s also possible to do more grafts per session usually. She is involved in every step of the procedure and only operates on on patient per day. 
Some really good results on the forum and is part of the recommended list. 

Edited May 25, 2021 by JohnAC71

[pxalimited]

2 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

What does your hair loss look like?

Can’t find the photos I sent to doctor from Hattingen and one can’t really see from the way I style my hair, but my temples are high, the front and crown lost a lot of density since I used to have a very thick hair.

The crown is maybe the most affected with temples.

[pxalimited]

1 minute ago, JohnAC71 said:

It’s true she is cheaper with automated FUE as it’s less physically demanding. It’s also possible to do more grafts per session usually. She is involved in every step of the procedure and only operates on on patient per day. 

That would be amazing, I just hope it is not too risky 😅

[Britanium]

Wow you look like you have excellent thick donor hair. 👍🏽

[Britanium]

1 minute ago, pxalimited said:

That would be amazing, I just hope it is not too risky 😅

Seem more results from automated than manual, and she is doing really good work either method.  Search the forum for the results, she was added to the recommended list a few months ago. However she has been putting out excellent work for years on other forums. 

[Gatsby]

It's impossible to be able to give you objective advice from your photo unfortunately. Can you provide pics from the top, sides and your donor region at the back? Personally I would on go to Dr Bicer. Forget about the price as this is a path to regret that we have seen over and over again. If you cannot afford Dr Bicer (for example) then keep saving up and wait a little longer. Are you on Finasteride? If not then my opinion is that you try it and stay on it for at least 6 months. You may not need surgery and it really is the choice of last resort with hair loss. All the best.

[Gatsby]

3 hours ago, pxalimited said:

That would be amazing, I just hope it is not too risky 😅

The risk with using the artist robot is there. The punch size used is at least 1mm and up to 1.25mm's. You risk for more visible scarring will be there. Like I said spend some more time doing some research and see if you can benefit from a 5HT blocker. All the best.

[Britanium]

2 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

The risk with using the artist robot is there. The punch size used is at least 1mm and up to 1.25mm's. You risk for more visible scarring will be there. Like I said spend some more time doing some research and see if you can benefit from a 5HT blocker. All the best.

Dr Bicer does not use the ARTAS, it’s automated FUE. 

[Gatsby]

3 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

Dr Bicer does not use the ARTAS, it’s automated FUE. 

My bad! 🤐 🤪

[Britanium]

1 minute ago, Gatsby said:

My bad! 🤐 🤪

Lol strictly speaking when it’s described as “automated” it’s inaccurate. It still involves the skill of the person using it. Robotic though is the ARTAS like you mentioned. 

[pxalimited]

14 hours ago, Gatsby said:

It's impossible to be able to give you objective advice from your photo unfortunately. Can you provide pics from the top, sides and your donor region at the back? Personally I would on go to Dr Bicer. Forget about the price as this is a path to regret that we have seen over and over again. If you cannot afford Dr Bicer (for example) then keep saving up and wait a little longer. Are you on Finasteride? If not then my opinion is that you try it and stay on it for at least 6 months. You may not need surgery and it really is the choice of last resort with hair loss. All the best.

I’m not on finasteride. I used to watch a lot of More Plates More Dates youtube videos (if you’re familiar with the guy, he’s pretty popular for preventing the hair loss) and I got a hormone test before going onto fin which showed some hormonal imbalance and i gave up cause im scared it’s gonna mess me up 🙁

[pxalimited]

14 hours ago, JohnAC71 said:

Lol strictly speaking when it’s described as “automated” it’s inaccurate. It still involves the skill of the person using it. Robotic though is the ARTAS like you mentioned. 

Ah thank God 🤣🙌🏼

[nikoladjs]

On 5/25/2021 at 5:00 PM, pxalimited said:

Hello from Serbia!

Been reading this forum for some time and I finally decided to make a topic. For quite long I wanted to ignore the fact that I was losing my hair, but I guess now I've come to terms with it and I am trying to figure out my next step. I guess that my type is norwood 2-3, my crown has some reduction in hair as well as my temples and now the front is starting to recede slowly too.

I've been 'treating' my problem since 2019, I had some bad experiences with doctors whose only goal was to take money from patients, I lost money on useless prp treatments, I even scheduled a hair transplant once in Serbia after an extensive research but cancelled it few days prior when I found out that the doctor's work was a total scam.

Last year I found doctor Sever from Hattingen hair , we even had a skype interview but he rejected me and told me to contact him after a year or more when I lose more hair.

Now the time has come and I think that maybe it is better to battle this head (and hair) on 😁 so even if i need a second transplant in the future I would avoid being bald-ish. But my choice now would be Istanbul due to finances.

I know that there are many experiences already written here, but somehow it makes me confused when I go through them and I am still getting used to what is where 😅 

I looked up Asmad clinic cause I've read some good reviews but I think they are too expensive for my budget.

If some experienced users would be kind to help me out with their Istanbul suggestions that aren't pricey I would be so grateful. Doesn't have to be first hand experience, just someone you heard or seen good work from.

 

Thanks in advance 😅

 

Which Serbian doctors work is a total scam? I need to know, because I want to do a procedure in Serbia.