Jump to content

Which Shaver to use for SMP


Recommended Posts

  • Regular Member

There are really three great tools to shave when you have SMP.

 

1. Rotary (2-3 heads): I recommend Remington R8 Pivot

2. Foil: I recommend Panasonic ES Electric Shaver

3. T-Liner Shaver: I recommend Andis T - Outline

 

#3 is what i use every 2 days, it leaves a bit more stubble on the sides, but depending on how much remaining hair you have, any of the above 3 should work great.

 

-Matt

I'm an SMP Practitioner and Educator with 5+ years in the industry. I wear the treatment proudly!

 

The Co-Founder and Lead Specialist at HeadStrong NY - a boutique SMP Clinic in NYC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There are really three great tools to shave when you have SMP.

 

1. Rotary (2-3 heads): I recommend Remington R8 Pivot

2. Foil: I recommend Panasonic ES Electric Shaver

3. T-Liner Shaver: I recommend Andis T - Outline

 

#3 is what i use every 2 days, it leaves a bit more stubble on the sides, but depending on how much remaining hair you have, any of the above 3 should work great.

 

-Matt

 

Hey Matt, Does the Andis T T-Liner Shaver cut closer than the Wahl Balding Clippers, and is it a better shave? I am thinking of buying that shaver

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Regular Member

Hey Ken

 

Yes i found the Andis to cut closer than the Wahl Clippers. Wahl is designed as a trimmer, where Andis is what many barbers use to create bald fades. It will take your hair very close to the skin, but not as close as a clean wet shave would. I personally have sensitive skin, so i found the Andis to get the job done without irritating like a wet shave would.

 

Let me know how you like it.

 

-Matt

I'm an SMP Practitioner and Educator with 5+ years in the industry. I wear the treatment proudly!

 

The Co-Founder and Lead Specialist at HeadStrong NY - a boutique SMP Clinic in NYC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey Ken

 

Yes i found the Andis to cut closer than the Wahl Clippers. Wahl is designed as a trimmer, where Andis is what many barbers use to create bald fades. It will take your hair very close to the skin, but not as close as a clean wet shave would. I personally have sensitive skin, so i found the Andis to get the job done without irritating like a wet shave would.

 

Let me know how you like it.

 

-Matt

 

Thanks for that info Matt, yea I will definitely let you know how it works out. I will prolly order it this week. I like the Wahl clippers, but I have to pass over the same areas several times to get good shave. I have sensitive skin also so hopefully it will do well for me too. Thanks again :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member
Thanks for that info Matt, yea I will definitely let you know how it works out. I will prolly order it this week. I like the Wahl clippers, but I have to pass over the same areas several times to get good shave. I have sensitive skin also so hopefully it will do well for me too. Thanks again :)

 

The T-edger will most defiantly be sharper than a regular clipper because they were designed to make outlines. I have also found the andies to be the sharpest. Don't press too hard. Let the clipper do the work for you. Also, keep it clean!!! I have had patients struggle with folliculitis because they do not clean their clippers between use and then friction + germs = yuck. You should be able to buy a sanitizing spray wherever you purchase from. If you struggle with cutting yourself with the andies my next suggestion is the wahl t-edger just keep it oiled. IMO, don't buy anything without a cord.

I am the SMP and Micro-Pigmentation Specialist for Shapiro Medical Group. Always feel free to message me privately with any additional questions you might have. I am trained in both the permanent and temporary pigmentation methods and am happy to be here to offer support as a neutral resource.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The T-edger will most defiantly be sharper than a regular clipper because they were designed to make outlines. I have also found the andies to be the sharpest. Don't press too hard. Let the clipper do the work for you. Also, keep it clean!!! I have had patients struggle with folliculitis because they do not clean their clippers between use and then friction + germs = yuck. You should be able to buy a sanitizing spray wherever you purchase from. If you struggle with cutting yourself with the andies my next suggestion is the wahl t-edger just keep it oiled. IMO, don't buy anything without a cord.

 

Thanks Nicole, for the advice and information. I have been using the Wahl Pro Chrome Clippers for a couple of years now, and I really like them except they tend to miss some spots and I must go over the same areas several times to get an even and clean shave. I have tried a rotary shaver but that is just too close for my taste. I prefer to leave some stubble. I do cut myself sometimes with the Wahl Clippers but it is usually due to pressing too hard in an attempt to get as close a shave as possible. Based on what you said, it sounds like I won't have to press too hard to get a close shave due to the power of the trimmer and sharpness of the blades so I will just let the trimmer do the work as you said. I don't think I will have trouble with cutting myself.

I found two different Andis Trimmers- One is called the Andis ANHU9 T-Liner Hair Trimmer and is black, and the other is called the Andis Professional 04603 Outliner II Personal Trimmer and is grey colored. Can you possibly tell me which one of those you and Matt are saying is the best one? And does the trimmer do about the same closeness as a dry foil or rotary shave, or does it leave a bit more stubble?

There is one guy who owns an SMP clinic and has posted on his site that wet shaving and Foil or Rotary Shaving can actually remove the pigments over time by removing layers of skin. This does not seem possible due to the pigment being placed in the dermal layer and it is the outer layer of the epidermis that is removed from shaving. Do you or Matt know if there is any truth to this "Shaving removes pigment" theory?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Senior Member
Thanks Nicole, for the advice and information. I have been using the Wahl Pro Chrome Clippers for a couple of years now, and I really like them except they tend to miss some spots and I must go over the same areas several times to get an even and clean shave. I have tried a rotary shaver but that is just too close for my taste. I prefer to leave some stubble. I do cut myself sometimes with the Wahl Clippers but it is usually due to pressing too hard in an attempt to get as close a shave as possible. Based on what you said, it sounds like I won't have to press too hard to get a close shave due to the power of the trimmer and sharpness of the blades so I will just let the trimmer do the work as you said. I don't think I will have trouble with cutting myself.

I found two different Andis Trimmers- One is called the Andis ANHU9 T-Liner Hair Trimmer and is black, and the other is called the Andis Professional 04603 Outliner II Personal Trimmer and is grey colored. Can you possibly tell me which one of those you and Matt are saying is the best one? And does the trimmer do about the same closeness as a dry foil or rotary shave, or does it leave a bit more stubble?

There is one guy who owns an SMP clinic and has posted on his site that wet shaving and Foil or Rotary Shaving can actually remove the pigments over time by removing layers of skin. This does not seem possible due to the pigment being placed in the dermal layer and it is the outer layer of the epidermis that is removed from shaving. Do you or Matt know if there is any truth to this "Shaving removes pigment" theory?

 

I like the andis professional 04603 outliner (the grey one). Honestly, it gets very close and will leave you very smooth. Maybe if you want just a tad bit of stubble try the wahl t-edger (maroon colored) it leaves you just slightly more stubble (we are talking maybe a mm more) but less than the clipper. The key with the t-edger is that their engines are not as strong as the regular clipper, so just keep them oiled and don't let your hair get too long between shaves but otherwise the blades are thinner and sharper so you can get a closer shave and with less work.

 

As far as wet shaving goes, for temp SMP I would never recommend it. Because, although the pigment is implanted in the upper dermal layer it is designed to fade by process of cell renewal so wet shaving does speed up that process by virtue of increased exfoliation and more rapid cell renewal.

I am the SMP and Micro-Pigmentation Specialist for Shapiro Medical Group. Always feel free to message me privately with any additional questions you might have. I am trained in both the permanent and temporary pigmentation methods and am happy to be here to offer support as a neutral resource.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Regular Member

Ken I use the the Andis T-Outliner Trimmer http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000143C0K/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687442&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000VVT5ZE&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1CKFN2QE0KCWB1ZVME57

 

Theres T-Outliner and T-Outliner II (this is a bit smaller)...either one should work fine, but I prefer the one i linked to.

 

It shaves very close for a trimmer, but for most hair types will leave a bit more stubble than a wet shave or foil shave. Its less irritating, just make sure to keep it clean like Nicole said, so that it cuts smooth and avoids bacteria.

 

-Matt

I'm an SMP Practitioner and Educator with 5+ years in the industry. I wear the treatment proudly!

 

The Co-Founder and Lead Specialist at HeadStrong NY - a boutique SMP Clinic in NYC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Regular Member

Hi Ken i replied your message , but didnt seem to show up...might be because i attached a link to the Andis...

 

anyway i use the original Andis T- Outliner. There are two versions the Outliner and the Outliner II. Both work fine but the II is a bit smaller.

 

It leaves hair just a bit more stubble than a wet shave or foil, but still gets the job done for most SMP clients. Like Nicole said, keep it clean and oiled regularly for best cut!

 

-Matt

I'm an SMP Practitioner and Educator with 5+ years in the industry. I wear the treatment proudly!

 

The Co-Founder and Lead Specialist at HeadStrong NY - a boutique SMP Clinic in NYC

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I like the andis professional 04603 outliner (the grey one). Honestly, it gets very close and will leave you very smooth. Maybe if you want just a tad bit of stubble try the wahl t-edger (maroon colored) it leaves you just slightly more stubble (we are talking maybe a mm more) but less than the clipper. The key with the t-edger is that their engines are not as strong as the regular clipper, so just keep them oiled and don't let your hair get too long between shaves but otherwise the blades are thinner and sharper so you can get a closer shave and with less work.

 

As far as wet shaving goes, for temp SMP I would never recommend it. Because, although the pigment is implanted in the upper dermal layer it is designed to fade by process of cell renewal so wet shaving does speed up that process by virtue of increased exfoliation and more rapid cell renewal.

 

Thanks Nicole! I will try the maroon Wahl T-edger, and I may try the grey colored Andis also just to compare and for days when I want to go smoother. The closer shave with less work sounds great to me! I will probably still use the clippers on the top of my scalp bc there is less hair there so it is relatively easy to get it all even in just one or two passes. but the sides and back still grow thick and it can take a while to catch it all and get it even.

Very interesting about the wet shaving in relation to cell renewal process. Makes total sense in terms of exfoliation. I don't ever wet shave, and I do not like the smooth look anyway. Thanks again :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks Matt, and thank you also for that link. That grey one is the trimmer I figured you and Nicole were referring to. I will definitely purchase it, as well as the Wahl T-edger that Nicole mentioned. Some days I just don't have time to mess with the clippers (takes to long to catch every area even though it leaves more stubble), and a faster cleaner shave with the trimmer would be convenient. I'll make sure to keep it oiled like Y'all suggested. Thanks again for the recommendations. Nice to have people like you and Nicole on here who know a lot about SMP and how to manage it best.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 10 months later...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...