SMP Clinic Question

[DTyler24]

Hi Friends

 

I live in India

 

I wish to do permanent SMP in FUT scar

Which clinic would be better

 

His Hair Clinic or Vinci Clinic??

Or are there other clinics better??

 

 

I would prefer the Dubai Branches since I live in India and its close

Will results be impacted by the Branch of clinic??

 

I mean Dubai vs Main Centre

 

Should I go to the main Clinic or Dubai is also fine??

 

Pls give me suggestions

[BaldKen2]

Hi Friends

 

I live in India

 

I wish to do permanent SMP in FUT scar

Which clinic would be better

 

His Hair Clinic or Vinci Clinic??

Or are there other clinics better??

 

HIS Hair smp results fade quite rapidly,and they have been in business for longest of smp businesses. If you use HIS you will be going back to enhance within 1 & 1/2 years and 2 years. Just read HIS Forum for proof from their clients. They are temporary SMP although they advertise as permanent. Do not know much about Vinci other than they charge thousands of dollars and seem to imitate HIS method. Most of these smp businesses lack much experience and have no credentials in field of Micropigmentation. They will guarantee you nothing and make you sign agreement that if something goes wrong with your results (like if dots migrate or turn blue) the clinic will not be responsible, which says it all.

Better to find a Micropigmentation clinic with years of experience doing all types of cosmetic tattooing on many areas of body, and legitimate micropigmentation Certifications and memberships to national micropigmenation societies which is only true accountability for them. Do not be fooled by the bs ads and fake online reviews and bogus forum reviews of smp places.

[el guapo]

HIS Hair smp results fade quite rapidly,and they have been in business for longest of smp businesses. If you use HIS you will be going back to enhance within 1 & 1/2 years and 2 years. Just read HIS Forum for proof from their clients. They are temporary SMP although they advertise as permanent. Do not know much about Vinci other than they charge thousands of dollars and seem to imitate HIS method. Most of these smp businesses lack much experience and have no credentials in field of Micropigmentation. They will guarantee you nothing and make you sign agreement that if something goes wrong with your results (like if dots migrate or turn blue) the clinic will not be responsible, which says it all.

Better to find a Micropigmentation clinic with years of experience doing all types of cosmetic tattooing on many areas of body, and legitimate micropigmentation Certifications and memberships to national micropigmenation societies which is only true accountability for them. Do not be fooled by the bs ads and fake online reviews and bogus forum reviews of smp places.

 

There are no cases of SMP from Hishair that has "migrated". And its impossible for their ink to turn blue. I have researched SMP quite a lot. HisHair seems pretty good with mostly good results. Yes it often fades but thats because they are rather careful in their approach so it may take a few sessions. Vinci I am still unsure about. They have some result son their website which are awful. From HisHair results they are mostly very good. Some are average.

[NicH0le007]

Hi Friends

 

I live in India

 

I wish to do permanent SMP in FUT scar

Which clinic would be better

 

His Hair Clinic or Vinci Clinic??

Or are there other clinics better??

 

 

I would prefer the Dubai Branches since I live in India and its close

Will results be impacted by the Branch of clinic??

 

I mean Dubai vs Main Centre

 

Should I go to the main Clinic or Dubai is also fine??

 

Pls give me suggestions

 

I have seen work from both clinics on patients who are coming to our clinic for transplants. You know, I think they both do great work!! Have you done your consultation with both of them? What are your long term goals? The only advantage I can see with Vinci is that they have physicians on staff to help you with long term planning and discuss a range of strategic options with you. I believe both offer temporary solutions as well, safe way to "get your feet wet" so to speak. I'm excited for you!

[NicH0le007]

There are no cases of SMP from Hishair that has "migrated". And its impossible for their ink to turn blue. I have researched SMP quite a lot. HisHair seems pretty good with mostly good results. Yes it often fades but thats because they are rather careful in their approach so it may take a few sessions. Vinci I am still unsure about. They have some result son their website which are awful. From HisHair results they are mostly very good. Some are average.

 

I think we should use the words "impossible" and "never" very carefully. This is science and art in combination. It's not exact. I love HIS work and follow them very closely. So, please do not take that as an installation of mistrust. Just being honest with you from a technical standpoint.

[BaldKen2]

There are no cases of SMP from Hishair that has "migrated". And its impossible for their ink to turn blue. I have researched SMP quite a lot. HisHair seems pretty good with mostly good results. Yes it often fades but thats because they are rather careful in their approach so it may take a few sessions. Vinci I am still unsure about. They have some result son their website which are awful. From HisHair results they are mostly very good. Some are average.

 

Sorry, I should have been more clear. Was not saying or implying that HIS Hair has a history of pigment migration or pigments turning to blue hue. At the end of that post you quoted me on I was merely making a general statement about SMP businesses and their contracts they make you sign so that they are not liable for any poor outcome with your results, and I simply used "pigment migration" and "blue" color change as examples of what a poor outcome can be, but again was not referring to any specific clinic and was not saying any specific provider has a history of migration and color change.

What I did say was HIS Hair absolutely has a common tendency to produce SMP results that fade significantly within 1-2 years. That is just a fact, read the forum and see for yourself. Maybe not such a bad thing that HIS' results fade, just depends on how you look at the situation and what the alternative outcome is, assuming that there is no "happily ever after" scenario with permanent SMP. And to echo what Nicole said, I do not think you can use words like "impossible" when speaking of an SMP outcome. Too many factors involved and nothing under the sun is perfect or guaranteed.

I had SMP several years ago, and my results honestly have not faded a bit. I do take care of my scalp and avoid sun exposure to it. That is not to say that the SMP won't fade on my scalp, but I will say that I am glad that I was wise enough to avoid His Hair bc I would have already been back to HIS clinics 3-5 times for enhancements.

[Thunder]

I had my first session at HeadstrongNY. They are located in Manhattan and my experience was very positive as I am looking forward to my second session. They have one practicioner who I feel is one of the top (3) in the world. His name is Matt Iulo, a former marketing executive and head practicioner with HIS.

[BaldKen2]

I had my first session at HeadstrongNY. They are located in Manhattan and my experience was very positive as I am looking forward to my second session. They have one practicioner who I feel is one of the top (3) in the world. His name is Matt Iulo, a former marketing executive and head practicioner with HIS.

 

Ah, so that's where Matt went. Many clients at HIS were sorry to see him go. I hear he is good

[Thunder]

Ah, so that's where Matt went. Many clients at HIS were sorry to see him go. I hear he is good

 

Matt is not good. He is down right phenomenal. No disrespect to the company he was working for previously but one of the reasons why I chose HeadStrongNY is Matt will be one who will be doing my treatments from start to finish.

 

That was a deal breaker for me when I started reading about how clients would have one person for one session, and then one person for another session. I put it in perspective, if you got a large tattoo that required multiple sessions, would you want a different artist to work on it each time? I certainly wouldn't. The other company may have well trained people, however I would opt for being consistent each time, that to me is bad practice. Each artist may have a different way of doing things, things that are important such as how heavy handed they are, etc. which subsequently make alter the clients final result.

 

Through all my research on SMP, the one name that kept coming up was Matt's, and I was fortunate enough to 1) have a consult with him personally 2) watch him in action as he performed a procedure and 3) meet the owner of the company. These little things edged me to pull the trigger, and I am the type of person that investigates and nitpicks.

 

But for anyone looking for Matt Iulo, he is now the co-founder and senior specialist at HeadStrongNY. You can google their website, call them and talk to them. Communication was key in making my decision to have this done with this company, and I am only two days out of my first session.

[BaldKen2]

Matt is not good. He is down right phenomenal. No disrespect to the company he was working for previously but one of the reasons why I chose HeadStrongNY is Matt will be one who will be doing my treatments from start to finish

 

Whoa, Easy slick, don't go overboard! It's almost as if you work for this place Headstrong.

[Thunder]

Whoa, Easy slick, don't go overboard! It's almost as if you work for this place Headstrong.

 

Respectfully, not going overboard at all. I have researched SMP for close to a year, educated myself and have found consistently that Matt was in demand. I just had my first session yesterday, posted my pics, so I don't "work for them".

 

There was a reason why you made that comment "Oh that is where he went". Reading posts on other forums prior to getting my first treatment, a lot of former clients and future clients wondered where Matt disappeared too. I am happy with the service I received so far, and that is why I am sharing my experience on here. Ask me this a year ago and I would of told you the idea of SMP was crazy. My research and due diligence further strengthens my point. Take a look at my before and after pictures. I am just a client.

[BaldKen2]

Respectfully, not going overboard at all. I have researched SMP for close to a year, educated myself and have found consistently that Matt was in demand. I just had my first session yesterday, posted my pics, so I don't "work for them".

 

There was a reason why you made that comment "Oh that is where he went". Reading posts on other forums prior to getting my first treatment, a lot of former clients and future clients wondered where Matt disappeared too. I am happy with the service I received so far, and that is why I am sharing my experience on here. Ask me this a year ago and I would of told you the idea of SMP was crazy. My research and due diligence further strengthens my point. Take a look at my before and after pictures. I am just a client.

 

Saw your photos, results look pretty good so far. A bit on the lighter side, but I imagine you will increase density and maybe just the lighting in the photo, can be difficult to tell, but looks pretty good. Yes, you are correct, Matt was in high demand at HIS, I know many were sorry to see him leave. He will be a good selling point for you guys.

[Thunder]

Saw your photos, results look pretty good so far. A bit on the lighter side, but I imagine you will increase density and maybe just the lighting in the photo, can be difficult to tell, but looks pretty good. Yes, you are correct, Matt was in high demand at HIS, I know many were sorry to see him leave. He will be a good selling point for you guys.

 

Thank you for the compliment. I am still in the shock and awe phase that I actually went through with this. I think the lighting in the pictures has a lot to do with it, all of them were selfies which I took. I can tell you that I have been inspecting my head quite frequently and it appears darker in person, looking in the mirror. I guess the naked eye is better then a shutter lens.

 

I believe my next session will be density and tweaking the hairline, I asked Matt to add that little scar in the hair line because I think it looks realistic and bad ass. From what I have read in the forums, prior to meeting him, Matt was the go to guy when things needed to be sorted out. Out of everyone that I met, Matt wound up being their practitioner, so I really wanted him to do my procedure but I couldn't find him. It was a matter of happenstance that by word of mouth I found out he opened his own company. I know that sounds cliche but trust me, after reading so many people wanting to get in touch with Matt and him not being around, I can honestly say I have access to him fairly quickly, and I am not saying that to promote HeadStrongNY, because this is about my journey of happiness, and that is sincere. I have been letting baldness dictate my life for the past ten years.

 

I think most would agree that having one person weather it be Matt, or someone else seeing your treatment from start to finish is not an unreasonable thing to ask.

 

If there is any suggestions you have about my photos I am up for some brutal honesty? Does it look natural? Did I choose the right hairline ? Appreciate the assessment.

[BaldKen2]

There are several good SMP businesses to choose from in the States. It is just a matter of what you are looking for as a client. I prefer to go with a Clinic with at least 5 years of experience and proven longevity in terms of lasting results. This can be tough to validate however. It is not so easy to view a clinic's client who has had the smp several years earlier and see how it is holding up, but if you are able to get this opportunity best to take it. Lots and lots of sketchy advertising tactics and dishonest behavior from these places. Many providers steal photos and use as their own supposed finished product, and many places will even use photos of men who do not even have smp.

I am always skeptical when a new Username pops up and immediately begins advertising for a specific smp clinic on several different high traffic hair loss forums. It is quite easy to spot this kind of advertising, and it always follows the same formula:

(A) Hair loss Sob Story (B) Desperate Need to do something about hair loss ©Research for solution leads to miraculous discovery a SPECIFIC SMP clinic (D) Life Changing SMP treatment and restoring of self-confidence (E) Recommendation of that clinic to others who battle hair loss "disease"

Don't believe the hype

[Thunder]

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. With regards to location. I have read on multiple forums of people traveling out of country and state to go for SMP. Sorry, but I would rather to be closer to a clinic then have to travel, just my opinion, especially with regards to the longevity of the results as you stated. That was something I questioned early on like what if something goes wrong ? I have to fly back and forth ? More $, more sessions, more cynicism.

 

As far as advertising tactics, I really haven't seen anything sketchy with SMP. However, I did have tattoo removal on a half sleeve a few years ago, and that is very expensive, I did catch a company that had the same before and after pics of a Dermatologist that I ultimately went too for the laser removal so they stole his pictures.

 

This is a forum, I am also a member of another forum. Everyone is on here for the same reason, hair loss. Many people choose to sit here and read, and yes have a right to be skeptical, but I am a Norwood 6/7 who decided to tell my story, my photos are 100% real and photo dated and I actually enjoy documenting my experience since I spent so many years hiding under a hat, I wouldn't call that a sob story, that probably is the silent majority of people on here. I decided NOT to live vicariously through the others and do something about it.

 

My hair loss spanned ten years, if I was desperate, ten years ago I would of done something, I didn't, researching anything in life I think would be common sense, especially when it comes to hair loss, I referenced the specific clinic because I find it odd that you knew the practitioner that I am working with, I am by no means endorsing anything but my own personal transformation. HIS is a great company and you don't see me bashing them. I am familiar with their clinics, locations, owner, etc, why? HIS is a HUGE player in SMP around the world. The only thing I disagree with is that a company may have (5) years verifiable experience, but how about their practitioners? I think Matt, who did come from HIS has a verifiable resume as he was pretty much very involved with marketing with them.

 

I will tell you skeptical or not, that today is Day 3 and I went out without a hat, actually I will post a few pics of three days post treatment in sunlight.

Hair loss is a personal battle for some people, if you cannot agree with me on that, then why be on this forum ? With all due respect, and I say this respectfully, why are you here ? I am here to post about MY experience with SMP, and yes I did name the company and practitioner, I trust the people contemplating this procedure are adults, and they can decide what they want and who and where to go to.

[BaldKen2]

My hair loss spanned ten years, if I was desperate, ten years ago I would of done something, I didn't, researching anything in life I think would be common sense, especially when it comes to hair loss, I referenced the specific clinic because I find it odd that you knew the practitioner that I am working with, I am by no means endorsing anything but my own personal transformation. HIS is a great company and you don't see me bashing them. I am familiar with their clinics, locations, owner, etc, why? HIS is a HUGE player in SMP around the world. The only thing I disagree with is that a company may have (5) years verifiable experience, but how about their practitioners? I think Matt, who did come from HIS has a verifiable resume as he was pretty much very involved with marketing with them.

 

With all due respect, and I say this respectfully, why are you here ? .

 

1) Actually..... you referenced Your Clinic specifically in your second post along with your photos and experience/testimony/sales pitch. Your advertisement of HeadStrong was not in response to any inquiry

 

2) Your questioning of my knowledge of Matt:

"because I find it odd that you knew the practitioner that I am working with",

Your answer to your own Suspicion:

"HIS is a HUGE player in SMP around the world, "

"I think Matt, who did come from HIS has a verifiable resume as he was pretty much very involved with marketing with them. "

 

3) The SMP business I am a client of (which shall remain nameless b/c Im not here to advertise or make money) has over 5 years of experience, and the practitioner who performed my smp has over 7 years of experience.

 

4)Why am I here? I like to share my knowledge (the little and basic smp knowledge and experience that I have) and SMP experience with potential clients who are in the same boat as I was. It is tough to learn the truth about SMP, what with all of the bogus undercover posting that goes on. I am also here to stay current on the developments and advances in the SMP field and industry, this forum is a wonderful tool for that.

I am ABSOLUTELY NOT HERE to advertise for any SMP business, so you will never see me promote the clinic I am a client of.

 

PS: I definitely agree with you on the point of Clinic location being a key factor. SMP is a process and something that must be maintained over the years, so having an SMP location within driving distance or close proximity of your residence is a huge advantage.

[Thunder]

1) Actually..... you referenced Your Clinic specifically in your second post along with your photos and experience/testimony/sales pitch. Your advertisement of HeadStrong was not in response to any inquiry

 

2) Your questioning of my knowledge of Matt:

"because I find it odd that you knew the practitioner that I am working with",

Your answer to your own Suspicion:

"HIS is a HUGE player in SMP around the world, "

"I think Matt, who did come from HIS has a verifiable resume as he was pretty much very involved with marketing with them. "

 

3) The SMP business I am a client of (which shall remain nameless b/c Im not here to advertise or make money) has over 5 years of experience, and the practitioner who performed my smp has over 7 years of experience.

 

4)Why am I here? I like to share my knowledge (the little and basic smp knowledge and experience that I have) and SMP experience with potential clients who are in the same boat as I was. It is tough to learn the truth about SMP, what with all of the bogus undercover posting that goes on. I am also here to stay current on the developments and advances in the SMP field and industry, this forum is a wonderful tool for that.

I am ABSOLUTELY NOT HERE to advertise for any SMP business, so you will never see me promote the clinic I am a client of.

 

PS: I definitely agree with you on the point of Clinic location being a key factor. SMP is a process and something that must be maintained over the years, so having an SMP location within driving distance or close proximity of your residence is a huge advantage.

 

Sorry, not a sales pitch, and I would not sway anyone to go to one place or another. I based my decision on what I saw in person. I am not here to advertise as well, I want to document my journey, and I am sorry if you feel that I am being a little to overzealous which in your mind is me trying to make money? Not the case at all. I think most people who have procedures advertise where they have had it done. I have scene good work at a few companies, but they were out of the USA, or only had one clinic in the USA. My comments of Matt are true, I didn't get my treatment at HIS, I chose not too, that should tell you something, I did based upon the results I have seen, in person. On another note, it seems like there is an abundance of anti-SMP people on this forum. Maybe they don't understand it ?

 

Your # 4 I am here for the same reason. So you have had SMP, how is yours holding up ?

[BaldKen2]

Sorry, not a sales pitch, and I would not sway anyone to go to one place or another. I based my decision on what I saw in person. I am not here to advertise as well, I want to document my journey, and I am sorry if you feel that I am being a little to overzealous which in your mind is me trying to make money? Not the case at all. I think most people who have procedures advertise where they have had it done. I have scene good work at a few companies, but they were out of the USA, or only had one clinic in the USA. My comments of Matt are true, I didn't get my treatment at HIS, I chose not too, that should tell you something, I did based upon the results I have seen, in person. On another note, it seems like there is an abundance of anti-SMP people on this forum. Maybe they don't understand it ?

 

Your # 4 I am here for the same reason. So you have had SMP, how is yours holding up ?

 

Honestly, youre absolutely right, and I am in no position to judge people's motives, especially when it is just speculation anyway. I have just grown weary of seeing SMP businesses advertise in sneaky ways, and there are a lot of them out there as I'm sure you have discovered, but I apologize to you for grouping you into that category. I am glad that you had a good experience with HeadStrong, and I actually learned of Matt from reading the HIS Hair forum and all of the glowing reviews he received and the shear panic that ensued as soon as it was announced that Matt was leaving HIS. He is apparently one of the best and knowledgeable practitioners out there. I am not a HIS client, but I read the HIS forum from time to time b/c, even though I am skeptical of the permanence of HIS' method, the HIS forum provides a lot of good information and guides on living with smp like shaving tips, lotions, etc. I definitely agree with you that people don't seem to understand SMP. There is such a misconception that it will be noticeable and people will be able to tell, but I agree with you that If it is done correctly an SMP'd head and a shaved head (of someone with full hair) will look basically identical but the SMP'd head will look better due to defined hairline(just my opinion). Plus you have got the HT pushers who dont want smp to succeed, even though many HT docs have now started offering smp services.

Mine is holding up well after a few years. It is honestly amazing that after smp you are not known as "the bald guy" but as "the guy with the shaved head." I had a woman tell me that I looked exactly like a guy she knew, a guy whom I am familiar with, and the guy has a full head of hair. It is simply amazing how some people no longer think of you as bald after smp.

Your results look really good, and I am glad you had a good experience with Headstrong and Matt. Also glad you are sharing your experience and getting the truth out there regarding SMP.

[Thunder]

Honestly, youre absolutely right, and I am in no position to judge people's motives, especially when it is just speculation anyway. I have just grown weary of seeing SMP businesses advertise in sneaky ways, and there are a lot of them out there as I'm sure you have discovered, but I apologize to you for grouping you into that category. I am glad that you had a good experience with HeadStrong, and I actually learned of Matt from reading the HIS Hair forum and all of the glowing reviews he received and the shear panic that ensued as soon as it was announced that Matt was leaving HIS. He is apparently one of the best and knowledgeable practitioners out there. I am not a HIS client, but I read the HIS forum from time to time b/c, even though I am skeptical of the permanence of HIS' method, the HIS forum provides a lot of good information and guides on living with smp like shaving tips, lotions, etc. I definitely agree with you that people don't seem to understand SMP. There is such a misconception that it will be noticeable and people will be able to tell, but I agree with you that If it is done correctly an SMP'd head and a shaved head (of someone with full hair) will look basically identical but the SMP'd head will look better due to defined hairline(just my opinion). Plus you have got the HT pushers who dont want smp to succeed, even though many HT docs have now started offering smp services.

Mine is holding up well after a few years. It is honestly amazing that after smp you are not known as "the bald guy" but as "the guy with the shaved head." I had a woman tell me that I looked exactly like a guy she knew, a guy whom I am familiar with, and the guy has a full head of hair. It is simply amazing how some people no longer think of you as bald after smp.

Your results look really good, and I am glad you had a good experience with Headstrong and Matt. Also glad you are sharing your experience and getting the truth out there regarding SMP.

 

The only bad experience I have had with SMP so far has been on here, there have been several people one of which who is an open marketer for a Chicago Hair Clinic who said "the dots are too big" and another poster who had several hair transplants and then a temporary SMP procedure that went wrong.

 

I learned so much reading the HIS forums, mainly because it is dedicated to SMP. It is funny how the anti-SMP/Pro Hair Transplant FUE keyboard warriors do not realize that a good majority of SMP is scar work, scars from FUE and Strip procedures, so it is not just relegated to us bald guys.

 

I guess I chose the wrong forum to post on, I mean I am five days in, and I am hatless, the follicle/dots have shrunk, no more redness and I shaved my sides and back and saw the framework for session two. I mean I already ran into my neighbor who said absolutely nothing not even looked at my head which was my biggest fear of being outed.

 

I am glad your procedure is holding up. SMP is not witch craft or a head tattoo, I just people would educate themselves before chastising others. To each his or her own, I am happy and that is all that counts at the end of the day.

[BaldKen2]

The only bad experience I have had with SMP so far has been on here, there have been several people one of which who is an open marketer for a Chicago Hair Clinic who said "the dots are too big" and another poster who had several hair transplants and then a temporary SMP procedure that went wrong.

 

I learned so much reading the HIS forums, mainly because it is dedicated to SMP. It is funny how the anti-SMP/Pro Hair Transplant FUE keyboard warriors do not realize that a good majority of SMP is scar work, scars from FUE and Strip procedures, so it is not just relegated to us bald guys.

 

I guess I chose the wrong forum to post on, I mean I am five days in, and I am hatless, the follicle/dots have shrunk, no more redness and I shaved my sides and back and saw the framework for session two. I mean I already ran into my neighbor who said absolutely nothing not even looked at my head which was my biggest fear of being outed.

 

I am glad your procedure is holding up. SMP is not witch craft or a head tattoo, I just people would educate themselves before chastising others. To each his or her own, I am happy and that is all that counts at the end of the day.

 

Don't pay the HT boosters any mind. They have their own agenda, and that agenda is all about making people doubt smp so they won't see it in person and become believers. Once you see it for yourself, you realize that it is a significant improvement to being bald, and is completely undetectable. My consultant at the clinic I went to allowed me to view his scalp under a magnifying glass and it was incredible that I still could not tell that these dots were not real hair follicles. I was sold at that point, and you and I both know that if others took the time to see smp in person they would be sold as well.

Your SMP results look great! I do not notice that the dots are too big, but it can be difficult to tell from photos, and as you mentioned, the dots do shrink throughout the healing process so no worries there. I like the hairline as well, very natural and strong as well. It looks like you did a bit of a broken hairline, am I correct on that? Also it looks like you added smp on your temples or side profiles? I like that style, makes smp look more like a haircut. The place I went to does not normally do work on the temples, and I did not have my temples done. I do have recession in those areas so may have those areas done when I go for enhancement.

[Thunder]

Don't pay the HT boosters any mind. They have their own agenda, and that agenda is all about making people doubt smp so they won't see it in person and become believers. Once you see it for yourself, you realize that it is a significant improvement to being bald, and is completely undetectable. My consultant at the clinic I went to allowed me to view his scalp under a magnifying glass and it was incredible that I still could not tell that these dots were not real hair follicles. I was sold at that point, and you and I both know that if others took the time to see smp in person they would be sold as well.

Your SMP results look great! I do not notice that the dots are too big, but it can be difficult to tell from photos, and as you mentioned, the dots do shrink throughout the healing process so no worries there. I like the hairline as well, very natural and strong as well. It looks like you did a bit of a broken hairline, am I correct on that? Also it looks like you added smp on your temples or side profiles? I like that style, makes smp look more like a haircut. The place I went to does not normally do work on the temples, and I did not have my temples done. I do have recession in those areas so may have those areas done when I go for enhancement.

 

Thank you for the encouragement and the compliments, I must of emailed Matt about 30 photos of hairlines that I liked, it ranged from feathered, to broken, the whole gammet, I just wasn't sure what would fit my face. HIS was a great reference since they have so many case studies to choose from.

 

I told Matt I did not want the straight line hairline with the zig zag temples because at my age and my ethnicity, skin tone, hair color, etc I would stick out like a sore thumb. I actually asked for his advice and Matt drew the hairline as well as the temples and I liked the way it looked. I might bring down the hairline a smidge, but I have been relying on Matt's experience and artistic ability.

 

I asked for conservative, and lets start from there. We can always add to it or tweak it if necessary and he agreed. If I bring down the hairline a smidge, I am going to break it up a bit. But so far I think I look a lot better then I did with no hair and a horseshoe! What I find weird is how the camera plays tricks on you depending on the lighting. In reality, the replicated follicles are black, but in some pics they look brown.

 

I read your other thread, I didn't realize HIS charged that much money. They would never say a word about how much they charge until you get to the consultation. And I have seen the diaries of some customers who opt to go for six to seven sessions. I think that is a bit crazy, unless there is an issue with retaining the pigment (immune system) etc. I was told that it would take three sessions to achieve the look that I wanted. All I can do now is see how things go.

[BaldKen2]

Thank you for the encouragement and the compliments, I must of emailed Matt about 30 photos of hairlines that I liked, it ranged from feathered, to broken, the whole gammet, I just wasn't sure what would fit my face. HIS was a great reference since they have so many case studies to choose from.

 

I told Matt I did not want the straight line hairline with the zig zag temples because at my age and my ethnicity, skin tone, hair color, etc I would stick out like a sore thumb. I actually asked for his advice and Matt drew the hairline as well as the temples and I liked the way it looked. I might bring down the hairline a smidge, but I have been relying on Matt's experience and artistic ability.

 

I asked for conservative, and lets start from there. We can always add to it or tweak it if necessary and he agreed. If I bring down the hairline a smidge, I am going to break it up a bit. But so far I think I look a lot better then I did with no hair and a horseshoe! What I find weird is how the camera plays tricks on you depending on the lighting. In reality, the replicated follicles are black, but in some pics they look brown.

 

I read your other thread, I didn't realize HIS charged that much money. They would never say a word about how much they charge until you get to the consultation. And I have seen the diaries of some customers who opt to go for six to seven sessions. I think that is a bit crazy, unless there is an issue with retaining the pigment (immune system) etc. I was told that it would take three sessions to achieve the look that I wanted. All I can do now is see how things go.

 

Yes, it is odd how the camera can fail to display the same result you would see in person. That is why I always tell people they must see smp in person at the clinic of their choice. Also, lighting plays a huge role. I find the worst kind of lighting is that yellow/orangeish bathroom type lighting, or harsh orange/yellow overhead lighting that you find at many restaurants. These lightings tend to make me still look like I am balding. Florescent lights are great, and daylight/sunlight is great.

HIS Hair has great experience and do good smp results that look great for a short time, but it seems that their results fade very quickly-between 12-18 months or 2 years. I think that HIS is designed to be more of a temporary result but is advertised as permanent. If you think about it, it is in their best interest for the results to be temporary b/c this way the client will have to return every year or so and pay them hundreds of dollars again. Also, I would be concerned with Quality Control regarding HIS Hair. Too many clinics in too many cities and countries, so there are too many practitioners. If SMP is as highly specialized as it seems, then how can you be sure that you will get the results they advertise if your practitioner is a random guy(in, let's say Seattle instead of Manchester) whose smp work you have never seen and whose experience/resume is unclear?

[Thunder]

Ken, I couldn't agree with you more, seeing it in person is paramount. A lot of people on the HIS forum love to criticize and theorize about the if's and what's but they won't get up and go see it in person.

 

I am intrigued by your opinion/theory about HIS Hair and their fading rate, return of customers, lasting SMP results. I know we started out as your theory of me being a company lackey lol but truly, giving Matt credit, everyone I had met offline was done by Matt, and the longest lasting result that still looked good after three treatment was three years.

 

I am not sure when Matt made the transition at HIS from practitioner to HIS Administrative (Not sure what title he held). I will tell you that Matt does things differently, and the way he is going about my sessions is a polar opposite of what you described at HIS. I am excited to see what my after session 2 will look like.

 

Quality control. Seriously, contacting England every time there is a problem ? That is where the calls are routed too, you cannot contact the clinic directly, that kind of turned me off. That and as you mentioned the practitioner placement and not knowing their resume.

 

At the behest of not sounding like I am selling the company I went too, because I am not, Matt is well known as I have seen in person the results of his work. He is good, and his resume is basically online, I guess HIS can't let go lol. I am happy so far as it is a change in how I looked before, for the better. I don't want multiple people working on my head, I want one practitioner to see my sessions from start to finish.

 

I can imagine the millions HIS makes, and my hearts go out reading the stories on the forum of men who have traveled and spent so much money only to not be happy, so their customer service should be on par.

[BaldKen2]

Ken, I couldn't agree with you more, seeing it in person is paramount. A lot of people on the HIS forum love to criticize and theorize about the if's and what's but they won't get up and go see it in person.

 

I am intrigued by your opinion/theory about HIS Hair and their fading rate, return of customers, lasting SMP results. I know we started out as your theory of me being a company lackey lol but truly, giving Matt credit, everyone I had met offline was done by Matt, and the longest lasting result that still looked good after three treatment was three years.

 

I am not sure when Matt made the transition at HIS from practitioner to HIS Administrative (Not sure what title he held). I will tell you that Matt does things differently, and the way he is going about my sessions is a polar opposite of what you described at HIS. I am excited to see what my after session 2 will look like.

 

Quality control. Seriously, contacting England every time there is a problem ? That is where the calls are routed too, you cannot contact the clinic directly, that kind of turned me off. That and as you mentioned the practitioner placement and not knowing their resume.

 

At the behest of not sounding like I am selling the company I went too, because I am not, Matt is well known as I have seen in person the results of his work. He is good, and his resume is basically online, I guess HIS can't let go lol. I am happy so far as it is a change in how I looked before, for the better. I don't want multiple people working on my head, I want one practitioner to see my sessions from start to finish.

 

I can imagine the millions HIS makes, and my hearts go out reading the stories on the forum of men who have traveled and spent so much money only to not be happy, so their customer service should be on par.

 

I wasn't implying that b/c you had your SMP done by HIS former practitioner that yours would fade also. The fact is, Matt is one of the best practitioners out there, and just as you have said Matt's reputation speaks for itself. Anyone would be fortunate to have Matt do their smp. I have kept in touch with a guy I met on a forum who had his smp with Matt and HIS, and that man's SMP results are holding up well. Plus I believe it is safe to say that Headstrong uses different inks/pigments than HIS, and may employ a slightly different method geared more for permanent results.

As far as the majority of HIS clients, I have noticed many complaining after 1.5- 3 years of extreme fading. At this link, (Link removed by moderator) this HIS veteran client and forum poster complains that his smp has faded a good bit after only 2 years. It is tough to identify the main cause of fading however, as some clients are not as careful at avoiding UV exposure.

Edited September 23, 2014 by David - TakingThePlunge

[Thunder]

I was told, or what I gather that fading is either: your immune system, improper insertion into the dermis, failure to follow after-care guidelines, practitioner error (diluted pigment), or as you said UV exposure. What do you do in the summer when you go to the beach ? Cover your whole head with sun block?

 

As far as Matt's technique, I really don't know the technicality or semantics as to his approach, the kind of ink/pigment (should I ask?) when I see him Thursday? It kind of puts me at ease to hear that I am in good hands, I mean I am realistic, I am a Norwood 6-7, will never have a full head of hair, so having the shaved head look to me is a huge step up, to others well to each their own.

 

I shave my head anyway, so what do I have to lose ? I have read threads on HIS about unhappy clients, I see sometimes they shift the blame to the client for wanting something that was against the practitioners advice, like going to dark, or having an unnatural hairline, and that confusing warranty they have. I also read threads where the Moderator agrees with someone who shoes irrefutable proof of three sessions and a non-finished product, but again who knows the cause of the fading.

 

Here is Day 5. It is darker in person, but the dots shrunk. No more redness. Again another selfie with the lighting, bad picture taking.