Regular Member givememyhair Posted February 12, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hi Guys, I have my consultation booked on 23rd & transplant for 24th & 25th (2 day session, for a total of 4000 Grafts approx) with Dr. Hakan in Antalya. I am a 28yr old Male & I started losing hair around 19 and it has been a steady decline ever since. My father has great hair & my mother has decent hair too although some of my maternal uncles did suffer from hair loss in their mid 30's, however, I seem to have beaten them all to it. So, I am going into this with a lot of hope but realistic expectations. Most doctors would consider me a Norwood 4 approaching 5, while based on my pics at least one famous doctor classified me as a Norwood 5. The reason why I chose Dr. Hakan was because so far compared to some of the other docs in Turkey, the responsiveness of the admin staff has been excellent and they have got back to me with answers to all my questions very quickly. I am really looking forward to the same excellent experience after I reach Turkey. The fact that Dr. Hakan was good feedback on the forum here was a major factor in my decision to go with Dr. Hakan. I wanted to start a diary here so I could document my result, share my experiences and at the same time take advice & motivation from the veterans here. Attached are some of my pics to give you an idea of where I am currently at. My aim is to get cover my crown area covered as well as the front. One of my concerns I have is that while based on my pictures most doctors said I have a decent donor, one of the doctors mentioned I may have a weak donor, as my sides seem thin and possibly the back (Pls. see pics). I would love to have others thoughts on this. A quick question for the veterans. How did you pass your time while you were being operated? - Was it comfortable enough to say watch a movie on your Tablet? It sure seems like a pretty long session to be sitting idle. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Lloyd Posted February 12, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted February 12, 2014 Have a great luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member givememyhair Posted February 15, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 15, 2014 Thanks Mate. Reaching Turkey in a couple of days so both excited and a little nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted February 16, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted February 16, 2014 Good luck givememyhair! I hope you'll continue to update us on your progress. During my procedures I watched movies and slept. David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Denny Posted February 21, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted February 21, 2014 You definitely can (and should) watch some videos. I also had a 2 day session (4002 grafts) and watched 4 videos! Have fun and good luck! An amazing experience (4002 grafts) with Dr. Koray Erdogan (ASMED Clinic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member givememyhair Posted February 23, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) David & Denny: Thanks Guys. I arrived in Antalya this morning and had my consultation with Dr. Hakan. I was told that I have a rich donor and hence 4k shouldn't be a problem (and I could have another 3k Donor left to be used in the future). Surgery is scheduled for tomorrow & day after and I need to make a call on the hairline. I have been given two options as shown in attached pic. The more aggressive hairline requires 4k grafts, while the top one needs 3k grafts. I initially came here with 4k grafts in mind and want to achieve the best possible look, however, I remember reading somewhere that its not a good idea to go for a very aggressive hairline as it could be hard to maintain in the future. I would absolutely love to have some advice from experienced patients on this. I only have a few hours to make the decision. I ideally want to achieve the best possible look, however, I would like to know if there are any pitfalls to going for the aggressive hairline. I do have a small forehead and the current measurement from the middle of my eyebrows to the beginning of my current hairline is about 6cm. Look forward to some ideas on this. Edited February 23, 2014 by givememyhair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FUE2014 Posted February 23, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2014 definitely go for the 3k ... the first option is too aggressive imo ... and you have the insurance of having more grafts left for a top up session in a few years ... are you are propecia by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member givememyhair Posted February 23, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 23, 2014 definitely go for the 3k ... the first option is too aggressive imo ... and you have the insurance of having more grafts left for a top up session in a few years ... are you are propecia by the way? Thanks for the opinion. I am also getting inclined towards the 3k, as I do feel the 4k one might be a little aggressive but would like some more opinions. Yes, I have been taking finax for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 23, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2014 I would go for the less aggressive hairline and use the extra grafts elsewhere for a better/denser result ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnny2000 Posted February 23, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted February 23, 2014 David & Denny: Thanks Guys. I arrived in Antalya this morning and had my consultation with Dr. Hakan. I was told that I have a rich donor and hence 4k shouldn't be a problem (and I could have another 3k Donor left to be used in the future). Surgery is scheduled for tomorrow & day after and I need to make a call on the hairline. I have been given two options as shown in attached pic. The more aggressive hairline requires 4k grafts, while the top one needs 3k grafts. I initially came here with 4k grafts in mind and want to achieve the best possible look, however, I remember reading somewhere that its not a good idea to go for a very aggressive hairline as it could be hard to maintain in the future. I would absolutely love to have some advice from experienced patients on this. I only have a few hours to make the decision. I ideally want to achieve the best possible look, however, I would like to know if there are any pitfalls to going for the aggressive hairline. I do have a small forehead and the current measurement from the middle of my eyebrows to the beginning of my current hairline is about 6cm. Look forward to some ideas on this. Hi good luck tomorrow. I am booked with him in april. Remember to write us all the details after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member givememyhair Posted February 24, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hi, Had my surgery done today and thought this would be a good time to share my experience. I went for the less aggressive hairline and exactly 3000 grafts were taken. The breakdown of grafts was: Single: 1425 Double: 1425 Triple or More: 150 So I was a bit disappointed with there being just 150 grafts with 3 or more hair. Also quite a co-incidence that singles and doubles were exactly the same. I was really hoping for a lot more doubles and triples but I guess this is pretty much luck of the draw. My aim was to go for the less aggressive hairline but get the maximum density possible especially in the front area. While, I was told by the doctor that it would be hard to put too many grafts in the front to avoid damage to native hair, I really did want a bit more density here and hence repeated this quite a few times. However, I am not 100% certain, if I would achieve that density as based on the few pics I have taken I do see only a few grafts being placed in the frontal region (the area between the old hairline and the Vertex). I am currently not sure of the coverage I got in the Vertex and would try to get better pictures tomorrow morning when I see the doctor and go to get my hair washed. I would also like to have some honest opinions on the hairline? Does it look symmetrical and natural? I have also attached a picture of the "hospital room" for anyone who might be considering coming here. Apparently newer patients would be staying here for a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member newbie33 Posted February 24, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2014 Thanks for posting. I'm considering Dr Dogannay for my HT, so it's interesting to see as many patients as possible here. The hairline looks very symmetrical to me - bearing in mind most natural hairlines aren't perfectly symmetrical (or faces for that matter). It also looks to me like he's done what you wanted and placed an emphasis on grafts in the hairline and front region. If this will be dense enough for you, I guess only time will tell when it grows. Think you made a wise choice going for the more conservative hairline, too. Best of luck. It's all here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/181125-ive-read-entire-forum-so-you-dont-have.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member givememyhair Posted February 24, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 24, 2014 Thanks for posting. I'm considering Dr Dogannay for my HT, so it's interesting to see as many patients as possible here. The hairline looks very symmetrical to me - bearing in mind most natural hairlines aren't perfectly symmetrical (or faces for that matter). It also looks to me like he's done what you wanted and placed an emphasis on grafts in the hairline and front region. If this will be dense enough for you, I guess only time will tell when it grows. Think you made a wise choice going for the more conservative hairline, too. Best of luck. Hi, Dr. Hakan has a lot of recommendations and references on the forums, so you would definitely be making the right choice by going with him. Sorry for not being very clear, I agree, the frontal region has got more than enough grafts from the looks of it. I was actually referring to the region between the vertex and the front, i.e. the midscalp area. I have fairly light density of hair here, although better than the front and some density here would give me some hairstyle options but I do realise that working in areas with some hair density is a bit more challenging than areas with very low density of native hair due to the risk of damage to native hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member newbie33 Posted February 24, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted February 24, 2014 Admittedly, that area doesn't look very dense with transplanted grafts in the pictures, but it's difficult to tell. The only way to know for sure is to ask him. Bottom line: you're not going to be able to get the appearance of amazing density over all that scalp with only 3000 grafts - and mostly singles and doubles. If I were you, I'd take the meds to keep what's there and see how this HT pans out. That region looks like you had fairly OK density beforehand so you might be pleasantly surprised if you don't suffer too much shock loss. It's all here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/181125-ive-read-entire-forum-so-you-dont-have.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Arrie Posted March 2, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 2, 2014 Updates? You only live once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member givememyhair Posted March 23, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2014 Hi Guys, Sorry for the lack of updates as I have been super busy since coming back from the surgery trying to catch up on work. I will be exactly 1 Month post-op tomorrow. Attaching day 3 pictures below. I decided to get another 500 grafts done on the mid-scalp and crown region as I felt I needed more hair in those areas. Attached are pictures taken after my second 500 graft surgery. Do you guys feel the density is better on the middle scalp now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member givememyhair Posted March 23, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2014 Here is a really interesting picture of my 500 grafts taken during my second operation. What I found interesting was that there was no "white tissue" around most of the single grafts. I was told that usually single hair grafts do not have this and its normally only seen with doubles and triples. I wonder what your thoughts are on this as my initial understanding was that this is important for the hair to survive and regrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnny2000 Posted March 23, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 23, 2014 Here is a really interesting picture of my 500 grafts taken during my second operation. What I found interesting was that there was no "white tissue" around most of the single grafts. I was told that usually single hair grafts do not have this and its normally only seen with doubles and triples. I wonder what your thoughts are on this as my initial understanding was that this is important for the hair to survive and regrow? Are some of your pictures 1 Month post op? If it is Then it looks like you have not Shed Any hair yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member givememyhair Posted March 23, 2014 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 23, 2014 Are some of your pictures 1 Month post op?If it is Then it looks like you have not Shed Any hair yet No, they are all day 3 pictures, taken just after my second 500 grafts surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member johnny2000 Posted March 23, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted March 23, 2014 No, they are all day 3 pictures, taken just after my second 500 grafts surgery. Allright. Can you post some pic on your current status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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