help me friends , i am suffering a lot from itching itching

[funkygarzon]

hi guys ,

 

i am 24 years old from India , for past 4 year i am loosing my hair with a terrible itching in my scalp all over my crown and front where hair density became low . First i thought my hair loss is due to dandruff and went to dermatologist and he prescribed many medicines but nothing worked ,those medicine which he prescribed will give temporary relief that too hair will be falling simultaneously , but after few days it will again start itching all over my scalp except sides and back . For hair loss i am taking finasteride and also i am using Nizoral sampoo but no difference same terrible itching . I am not using Minoxidil so the itching is not "minoxidil burn"

 

 

so guys please give tell me the reason why i am getting this kind of itching all over the scalp except in sides and back for past 4 years . None of them in my place is good to give me the correct solution , that is why i am posting it here and i hope here all are expert and will give the correct medicine for my itching

 

help me in

 

1. giving me the best medicine for the itching .

2. what is scalp inflammation ?

 

3. whether DHT can cause this terrible itching ?

 

 

please help me gusy , i am suffering and dying like anything

thanks in advance

[Swimmy]

You are suffering from Scalp inflammation....Or its possible you have demodex. DHT shouldn't be a issue if you're taken niz and fin. It could be a variety of things.

 

 

From first hand experience resveratrol + Curcumin synergistically is good for inflammatory responses and should help your scalp. It neutralizes neurogenic inflammation

 

 

This is a good shampoo for fungal, inflammation, and dandruff. So it should help

 

Natural HERBAL SLS FREE SHAMPOO with Organic Aloe Vera & Jojoba - Normal/Oily Hair - HAIR CARE

[funkygarzon]

You are suffering from Scalp inflammation....Or its possible you have demodex. DHT shouldn't be a issue if you're taken niz and fin. It could be a variety of things.

 

 

From first hand experience resveratrol + Curcumin synergistically is good for inflammatory responses and should help your scalp. It neutralizes neurogenic inflammation

 

 

This is a good shampoo for fungal, inflammation, and dandruff. So it should help

 

Natural HERBAL SLS FREE SHAMPOO with Organic Aloe Vera & Jojoba - Normal/Oily Hair - HAIR CARE

 

 

thank you very much for your help Swimmy , but i have few doubts please clarify my doubts dude ,

 

1 . i am in india , where can i get this resveratrol and curcumin ?

2. resveratrol and curcumin = is it a tablet or it is cream that has to apply on the scalp ?

3. I saw some few medication for scalp inflammation in some site , they are

a.T-gel

d. Dermovate

c. Lobate cream (temovate(dermovate) generic chobetasol propionate) - it is available in india

 

will the above medicine a,b,c really helps in curing scalp inflammation completely ?

 

4. I am using Nizoral shampoo . so do i have to use "Natural HERBAL SLS " Alone or i can use this shampoo along with Nizoral ? ....thank you . waiting for your reply

[Swimmy]

thank you very much for your help Swimmy , but i have few doubts please clarify my doubts dude ,

 

1 . i am in india , where can i get this resveratrol and curcumin ?

2. resveratrol and curcumin = is it a tablet or it is cream that has to apply on the scalp ?

3. I saw some few medication for scalp inflammation in some site , they are

a.T-gel

d. Dermovate

c. Lobate cream (temovate(dermovate) generic chobetasol propionate) - it is available in india

 

will the above medicine a,b,c really helps in curing scalp inflammation completely ?

 

4. I am using Nizoral shampoo . so do i have to use "Natural HERBAL SLS " Alone or i can use this shampoo along with Nizoral ? ....thank you . waiting for your reply

 

 

1.Curcumin is of course Turmeric. Isn't india where that stuff comes from? You can buy the stuff online at multiple places. Like Iherb

 

2. Its internal so its in pill form

 

3- I don't know much about those other things. They may help but probably won't cure it.

 

You can use both. Use Nizoral once or twice a week and then your choice of shampoo the rest of the days Preferably SLS free.

 

 

 

[funkygarzon]

1.Curcumin is of course Turmeric. Isn't india where that stuff comes from? You can buy the stuff online at multiple places. Like Iherb

 

2. Its internal so its in pill form

 

3- I don't know much about those other things. They may help but probably won't cure it.

 

You can use both. Use Nizoral once or twice a week and then your choice of shampoo the rest of the days Preferably SLS free.

 

 

 

 

 

thank you very much for your information Swimmy , i am going to order the medicine which you have prescreibed my doubts are cleared . But please make me clear these things

 

1. the infection and itching on my scalp is only on front and crown not in sides and back , so i am confused how this resveratrol + Curcumin oral pills will give exact solution to my affected scalp ?

 

2. my point on this itching in my head may be due to DHT ,because i am using finasteride and nizorol only for one and a half months , so i think this period of usage is not enough to stop the DHT effect in itching , may be it will take some time to cure the DHT infection . This is the thought running in my mind but i don't know its true or not , please tell me whether my guess is correct or not ?

 

3. the medicine that i found in the site url is

 

http://www.hairsite.com/late-scalpinflammation.htm

these are the infos:

 

HairSite editorial -

 

 

 

Some people called it scalp inflammation, others called it "minoxidil burn". In any case, this is some kind of scalp conditions characterized by severe itch, redness, excessive flakes and crust etc. This condition is commonly reported by people using Rogaine or topical minoxidil, that's why some people called it "minoxidil burn". It appears that people who are using 5% minoxidil are suffering more from scalp inflammation than those using 2%. Some doctors say that it is the alcohol in Rogaine that is causing the problem whereas others, eg: Dr. Proctor, a hair specialist in the U.S says that it is propylene glycol in Rogaine that is causing the problem. It is unclear why this condition is more prevalent among people who are using 5% topical minoxidil than 2%.

 

 

 

Please note that scalp inflammation can happen even if you are not using Rogaine or topical minoxidil. In fact, there is no scientific study which shows that topical minoxidil is the cause of scalp inflammation. Some people are simply more prone to certain scalp conditions than others. Besides topical minoxidil, Retin-A is also known to be associated with scalp inflammation. Specifically, scalp treated with Retin-A will become vulnerable to sunlight and may develop an inflammatory reactions due to sun's exposure. In addition, some suggested that inflammation may be related to bacterial activity on the scalp. Researchers Young et al. proposed that inflammation is a direct cause of bacteria that inhibits in the hair follicles.

 

 

 

According to Dr. Razack, another hair specialist in the U.S and author of the book "Conquering Hair Loss", many researchers have suggested that scalp inflammation is closely related to hair loss. There was a clinical study conducted by Young et al in 1991 showing that 96% of the participants in the study who have androgenic alopecia have also demostrated some kind of inflammatory response on their scalps. In another study conducted by Abell et al., inflammation was present in over 75% of the scalp biopsies obtained from close to 700 patients with androgenic alopecia.

 

 

 

Personally, I believe that the crustings and flakes on the scalp are the major culprit in scalp inflammation related hair loss. Although both the crustings and flakes are simply dead skin on your scalp, they are responsible for physically pulling my hair off as they are breaking loose from the scalp.

 

 

 

For more in-depth analysis on inflammation and hair loss, a good reference would be the book "Conquering Hair Loss". However, we are not going to get into the technicalities here since what I really want is to talk about the treatments available for scalp inflammation.

 

 

 

Neutrogen T-Gel

I think the first thing that everyone should try is Neutrogen T-Gel. It is the least expensive of all treatments, about US $8 a bottle and virtually any drug store sells it as an over-the-counter shampoo. No prescription is required. Although it doesn't work for everyone, some have repoted good results without having to turn to other more expensive alternatives. So I would definitely give T-Gel a try before anything else. However, not everyone responds to T-Gel. In fact, some, like myself, really dislike the shampoo. It dries up my hair and leaves stains on my scalp.

 

 

 

Nizoral Shampoo

If T-Gel fails, the next thing that I recommend is Nizoral shampoo. It is more expensive than T-Gel and a prescription is required for U.S residents. Nizoral costs well over US $30 for one bottle in New York City and I guarantee you can find a much better deal ordering over the internet. The active ingredient in Nizoral is 2% ketoconazole which in addition to being an anti-fungal agent, is also an antiandrogen and immunosupressant. All these attributes are beneficial to hair growth. Nizoral is intended to be used only once or twice a week. So it is important that you alternate Nizoral with another shampoo for hair loss.

 

 

 

Nizoral Conditioning Shampoo

Many people complain that while Nizoral shampoo works for them, it also makes their hair and scalp dry. In fact, even people who have oily hair and scalp, including myself, complain that Nizoral is too drying for the hair. Good news: Nizoral Conditioning Shampoo is now available. However, it is not widely available in every country at this point (not even in the U.S - to my knowledge) and your best bet is to shop for it on the internet. This is a great shampoo, it works just as well as regular Nizoral shampoo, has the same active ingredient - 2% ketoconazole and does not leave your hair and scalp dry. This one is now on my favorite list. It is slightly more expensive than regular Nizoral shampoo.

 

 

 

Dermovate

If both T-Gel and Nizoral fail, then your last resort is Dermovate, or sometimes called Temovate in North America. It is a topical scalp lotion that is available by prescription only for U.S residents. Dermovate is not cheap. A 50ml bottle costs over US $60 in New York City. However, you are supposed to place only a few drops on affected areas and a 50ml bottle should last you more than two months. The active ingredient in Dermovate is Clobetasol 17-propionate 0.05%, which is a kind of cortisone. Dermovate is extremely effective and it works almost instantaneoulsy. Depending on the severity of your conditions, continuous application for up to six weeks may be required before your scalp is clear of all flakes and crust. Once your conditions have been stablizied, then you use Dermovate only when needed. For those who use Rogaine or topical minoxidil, Dermovate should be applied shortly after you put on Rogaine. Also, for best results, it is highly recommended that you include both Nizoral shampoo and Dermovate in your regimen.

 

 

 

4. now i couldn't able to do any work and couldn't able to concentrate on my studies because of this itching and hair loss ,so please tell me some cream or medicine that can be applied to my scalp to reduce the itching . thank you . waiting for your reply

 

 

Edited October 6, 2010 by funkygarzon

[Swimmy]

1. the infection and itching on my scalp is only on front and crown not in sides and back , so i am confused how this resveratrol + Curcumin oral pills will give exact solution to my affected scalp ?

 

Where the itch is, is where hair loss occurs. On the top. Usually never on the sides or back. So that's why you aren't getting a itch in those places. Curcumin+resveratrol together have a anti inflammatory properties. This includes every part of your body not just your scalp. It will selectively block the CB1 receptor. Curcumin by itself (downregulates androgen receptor, TGF-Beta), inhibits PLA-2, MMP-9, COX-2, TNF-a. But with Res protects against neurogenic inflammation.

 

Not sure if its a full solution! It could be a full solution to your inflammation and itching..However, by itself it won't stop MPB. Make sure you order from a good source! Jarrows Curcumin 95 is recommended. Country life or Now foods resvertral are preferred. I ran out of supply on mine two weeks ago and was waiting to reorder. Without it my scalp went inflamed so I know it works for me.

 

 

 

 

"2. my point on this itching in my head may be due to DHT ,because i am using finasteride and nizorol only for one and a half months , so i think this period of usage is not enough to stop the DHT effect in itching , may be it will take some time to cure the DHT infection . This is the thought running in my mind but i don't know its true or not , please tell me whether my guess is correct or not ? :("

 

 

 

No, that would be plenty of time to see some kind of improved result on your inflammation.

 

 

IMO, I wouldn't take any of those things. First cause I don't have a problem with scalp itch or inflammation with what I'm taking. All those things you mention are harsh on your scalp and can dry out your hair. Another thing you might want to try is get a sls free shampoo like i mentioned. Order some DMSO liquid and lithium orotate and add some to your shampoo. Its scientifically shown to be more effective than nizoral and can be used everyday. That will help with the scalp itch and inflammation.

 

 

Give it some time. About a month.If none of it works you might want to see a doctor. It could also be possible that you have demodex or some kind of scalp fungus.

 

 

 

 

[funkygarzon]

Where the itch is, is where hair loss occurs. On the top. Usually never on the sides or back. So that's why you aren't getting a itch in those places. Curcumin+resveratrol together have a anti inflammatory properties. This includes every part of your body not just your scalp. It will selectively block the CB1 receptor. Curcumin by itself (downregulates androgen receptor, TGF-Beta), inhibits PLA-2, MMP-9, COX-2, TNF-a. But with Res protects against neurogenic inflammation.

 

Not sure if its a full solution! It could be a full solution to your inflammation and itching..However, by itself it won't stop MPB. Make sure you order from a good source! Jarrows Curcumin 95 is recommended. Country life or Now foods resvertral are preferred. I ran out of supply on mine two weeks ago and was waiting to reorder. Without it my scalp went inflamed so I know it works for me.

 

 

 

 

"2. my point on this itching in my head may be due to DHT ,because i am using finasteride and nizorol only for one and a half months , so i think this period of usage is not enough to stop the DHT effect in itching , may be it will take some time to cure the DHT infection . This is the thought running in my mind but i don't know its true or not , please tell me whether my guess is correct or not ? :("

 

 

 

No, that would be plenty of time to see some kind of improved result on your inflammation.

 

 

IMO, I wouldn't take any of those things. First cause I don't have a problem with scalp itch or inflammation with what I'm taking. All those things you mention are harsh on your scalp and can dry out your hair. Another thing you might want to try is get a sls free shampoo like i mentioned. Order some DMSO liquid and lithium orotate and add some to your shampoo. Its scientifically shown to be more effective than nizoral and can be used everyday. That will help with the scalp itch and inflammation.

 

 

Give it some time. About a month.If none of it works you might want to see a doctor. It could also be possible that you have demodex or some kind of scalp fungus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wooooooow you are amazing swimmy , thank you very much for your kind reply and for the wonderful help . I have decided to buy Jarrows Curcumin 95 and country life or Now foods resvertral .

 

1. now my dear friend Swimmy . i am not much exposed to online buying products , i am so much afraid of the fake sites and hacker , so please help me in giving me the site or url for " Jarrows Curcumin 95 , country life or Now foods resvertral , sls free shampoo ,DMSO liquid and lithium orotate" which you are regularly buying online . so that i will have confident that i am buying the exact product which you have prescribed . I am sorry Swimmy if i am distrubing you much .

 

2. my final request swimmy , Actually i am not completely bald before ,but was having less density hair in front and in crown due to genetic like my father . To stop the hair loss i am using finasteride for one and half month ,i can feel that my hair loss is some what stoped and i checked this by shaving my head , now i got hair in all the area without gap , but i can feel that all the hair that are growing in front and in crown area are so thin compare to the hairs in sides and back , so is there any way to make these thin hair in front and crown to grow thicker ? .....

 

3. yesterday due to much itching on my scalp, i bought Lobate cream (temovate(dermovate) generic chobetasol propionate) in the medical shop near my house ,i applied that in the morning and i washed my head with nizoral shampoo in evening, now to be honest , there is no itching on my scalp and i slept well yesterday with out any itching , so now shall i continue to apply this lobate cream(temovate(dermovate) generic chobetasol propionate) which i bought ? or shall i switch on to SLS free with DMSO liquid and lithium orotate ? .... thanks in advance swimmy . waiting for your reply

[Swimmy]

1. now my dear friend Swimmy . i am not much exposed to online buying products , i am so much afraid of the fake sites and hacker , so please help me in giving me the site or url for " Jarrows Curcumin 95 , country life or Now foods resvertral , sls free shampoo ,DMSO liquid and lithium orotate" which you are regularly buying online . so that i will have confident that i am buying the exact product which you have prescribed . I am sorry Swimmy if i am distrubing you much .

 

 

 

Iherb.com. Is a good site. It contains lots of brands. However, you live in India so I'm not sure how international shipping is.

 

 

This is where I get the DMSO

 

Cocoon Nutrition - Scientific Breakthroughs for Radiant Health

 

 

Lithium

 

Beyond A Century, Inc.: Minerals

 

 

But again not sure on international shipping

 

2. my final request swimmy , Actually i am not completely bald before ,but was having less density hair in front and in crown due to genetic like my father . To stop the hair loss i am using finasteride for one and half month ,i can feel that my hair loss is some what stoped and i checked this by shaving my head , now i got hair in all the area without gap , but i can feel that all the hair that are growing in front and in crown area are so thin compare to the hairs in sides and back , so is there any way to make these thin hair in front and crown to grow thicker ? .....

 

 

 

 

 

It could take about a year on fin to see regrowth. You could try 5% minoxidil.Other than that there are experimental drugs and topicals out there that MAY give regrowth, who knows, and if you have the extra income. You could also try cheaper solutions like Emu oil.

 

 

3. yesterday due to much itching on my scalp, i bought Lobate cream (temovate(dermovate) generic chobetasol propionate) in the medical shop near my house ,i applied that in the morning and i washed my head with nizoral shampoo in evening, now to be honest , there is no itching on my scalp and i slept well yesterday with out any itching , so now shall i continue to apply this lobate cream(temovate(dermovate) generic chobetasol propionate) which i bought ? or shall i switch on to SLS free with DMSO liquid and lithium orotate ? .... thanks in advance swimmy . waiting for your reply

 

 

 

Whatever works for you. The DMSO+ lithium orotate will be added to your shampoo and will replace nizoral. You can try and see what works and what doesn't..

[Bill - Seemiller]

funky,

 

Nizoral shampoo helps reduce scalp inflammation and dandruff. You can purchase Nizoral 1% cheap via our online hair loss product store. Alternatively, you can purchase the 2% solution by obtaining a prescription from your physician.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[funkygarzon]

Iherb.com. Is a good site. It contains lots of brands. However, you live in India so I'm not sure how international shipping is.

 

 

This is where I get the DMSO

 

Cocoon Nutrition - Scientific Breakthroughs for Radiant Health

 

 

Lithium

 

Beyond A Century, Inc.: Minerals

 

 

But again not sure on international shipping

 

 

 

 

 

 

It could take about a year on fin to see regrowth. You could try 5% minoxidil.Other than that there are experimental drugs and topicals out there that MAY give regrowth, who knows, and if you have the extra income. You could also try cheaper solutions like Emu oil.

 

 

3. yesterday due to much itching on my scalp, i bought Lobate cream (temovate(dermovate) generic chobetasol propionate) in the medical shop near my house ,i applied that in the morning and i washed my head with nizoral shampoo in evening, now to be honest , there is no itching on my scalp and i slept well yesterday with out any itching , so now shall i continue to apply this lobate cream(temovate(dermovate) generic chobetasol propionate) which i bought ? or shall i switch on to SLS free with DMSO liquid and lithium orotate ? .... thanks in advance swimmy . waiting for your reply

 

 

 

Whatever works for you. The DMSO+ lithium orotate will be added to your shampoo and will replace nizoral. You can try and see what works and what doesn't..

 

 

thank you very much for your useful information swimmy .

 

I am going to buy DMSO in gel form , and lithium orotate in powder form . thank you very much dude . take care MAY GOD BLESS YOU MORE AND MORE .

 

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funky,

 

Nizoral shampoo helps reduce scalp inflammation and dandruff. You can purchase Nizoral 1% cheap via our online hair loss product store. Alternatively, you can purchase the 2% solution by obtaining a prescription from your physician.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

 

admin Bill ,

 

i have already purchased Nizoral 2% and i am using it twice a week , but no use admin Bill , may be it is reducing the DHT block ,i don't know , but it is not reducing my itching . thank you very much Bill . . please give me any suggestion s regarding my problem bill , it will be very use full for me .... thank you

Edited October 8, 2010 by funkygarzon

[Swimmy]

Whatever works for you. The DMSO+ lithium orotate will be added to your shampoo and will replace nizoral. You can try and see what works and what doesn't..

 

 

thank you very much for your useful information swimmy .

 

I am going to buy DMSO in gel form , and lithium orotate in powder form . thank you very much dude . take care MAY GOD BLESS YOU MORE AND MORE .

 

 

 

 

Hey, i'm not sure on the DMSO gel. You'll probably just be better off with the liquid form..never tried the gel. So don't know how that's gonna work. Sometimes the solution can be too high for people with sensitive skin

 

 

Per 8 oz bottle

 

1 tsp of DMSO liquid (99%). If you have sensitive skin use a 50 to 70% solution.

 

1 & 1/2 teaspoons to 2 teaspoons of crushed Lithium pills (or powder)

 

Add to your choice of sls free shampoo

[funkygarzon]

Hey, i'm not sure on the DMSO gel. You'll probably just be better off with the liquid form..never tried the gel. So don't know how that's gonna work. Sometimes the solution can be too high for people with sensitive skin

 

 

Per 8 oz bottle

 

1 tsp of DMSO liquid (99%). If you have sensitive skin use a 50 to 70% solution.

 

1 & 1/2 teaspoons to 2 teaspoons of crushed Lithium pills (or powder)

 

Add to your choice of sls free shampoo

 

 

1. oooh woooow , thank you very much swimmy , i understood clearly , but i don't know whether i am having sensitive skin or not ? so i will buy this DMSO 99% ,after using it if i get any irritation then i will switch on to 50 to 70 % .. thank you swimmy . i will use these things putting all my trust in god , because beyond everything my head will be fine only by god 's grace ,so hope i wil be saved from this itching and balding by god 's grace ...

 

2. I am being a poor guy i can buy only EMU oil for my thin hair for regrowth swimmy ,

 

a. but will EMU oil really works in regrowth and thickening hair in front and in crown ?

 

b. and how long it will take to give a good result of EMU oil swimmy ? .. thank you waiting for your reply swimmy

Edited October 8, 2010 by funkygarzon

[Swimmy]

1. oooh woooow , thank you very much swimmy , i understood clearly , but i don't know whether i am having sensitive skin or not ? so i will buy this DMSO 99% ,after using it if i get any irritation then i will switch on to 50 to 70 % .. thank you swimmy . i will use these things putting all my trust in god , because beyond everything my head will be fine only by god 's grace ,so hope i wil be saved from this itching and balding by god 's grace ...

 

2. I am being a poor guy i can buy only EMU oil for my thin hair for regrowth swimmy ,

 

a. but will EMU oil really works in regrowth and thickening hair in front and in crown ?

 

b. and how long it will take to give a good result of EMU oil swimmy ? .. thank you waiting for your reply swimmy

 

 

 

Not sure on the EMU. Mixed results. Some people respond well. Some don't. Its hit or miss

[funkygarzon]

Not sure on the EMU. Mixed results. Some people respond well. Some don't. Its hit or miss

 

thank you very much Swimmy , any way no problem i leave the rest to god . MAY GOD BLESS YOU MORE AND MORE . take care