Thinning Hair - any success stories?

[savehair]

Hi All,

 

just a little bit about myself

 

i've been losing hair since 5 years ago at age 21 (WTF!) which was shocking to me espeically at such a young age. it occurred almost in 1 month duration where i lost an extensive amount of hair to the point where i was able to tell something was wrong. since it happened so fast, i assume it wasn't MPB, and it was going to grow it back so i decided to just let it sit naturally, after 6 months, it did grew back a little bit but it was no where near where it was. Base on the hairloss , i believe i do have MPB

 

i've been trying several things but mostly on the natural end such as eating healthier, sleeping earlier and took supplements such as fish oil, vitamin B, saw palmetto(recently dropped).

 

2 years ago, i decided to take things up a notch and started applying generic minoxidil (5%) which i saw very little results.

 

 

Current routine minoxdil (5%) twice a day, supplements: fish oil,vitamin b.

Current progress: definitely not more than before, and it feels like the hair loss cycle is going to start again

 

i am just wondering are there any success stories where people grew back a good amount of their hair from a thinning state?

 

feels like most proven approaches (minoxdil and propecia) only helps you to maintain, and transplant can't really be done to to thinning patients.

 

what other alternatives are there for people that are thinning ?

 

sorry about the vent, appreciate your help in advance

[Swimmy]

Hi All,

 

just a little bit about myself

 

i've been losing hair since 5 years ago at age 21 (WTF!) which was shocking to me espeically at such a young age. it occurred almost in 1 month duration where i lost an extensive amount of hair to the point where i was able to tell something was wrong. since it happened so fast, i assume it wasn't MPB, and it was going to grow it back so i decided to just let it sit naturally, after 6 months, it did grew back a little bit but it was no where near where it was. Base on the hairloss , i believe i do have MPB

 

i've been trying several things but mostly on the natural end such as eating healthier, sleeping earlier and took supplements such as fish oil, vitamin B, saw palmetto(recently dropped).

 

2 years ago, i decided to take things up a notch and started applying generic minoxidil (5%) which i saw very little results.

 

 

Current routine minoxdil (5%) twice a day, supplements: fish oil,vitamin b.

Current progress: definitely not more than before, and it feels like the hair loss cycle is going to start again

 

i am just wondering are there any success stories where people grew back a good amount of their hair from a thinning state?

 

feels like most proven approaches (minoxdil and propecia) only helps you to maintain, and transplant can't really be done to to thinning patients.

 

what other alternatives are there for people that are thinning ?

 

sorry about the vent, appreciate your help in advance

 

 

 

#1 What was the cause for your initial hair loss? Do you believe it was stress related? It can be numerous things outside of MPB..Or just MPB. Its possible that a event in your life triggered the switch to start your hair loss. Also what do you mean by healthier eating? Some things you eat you think may be "healthy" really aren' healthy for hair. Like high Glucoser foods, or those that spike insulin.

 

 

#2 I wouldn't just taken random supplements for your hair loss. If you go that route you need to do lots of research. For starters you can visit the thread on top supplementations for hair loss that was made on here. Secondly the type of brand is all the more important.

 

3# How long did you use minox and fin for? You should use it for about 6 months to see any progress

 

4# Alternatives- Laser Helmet, experimental treatments. Things like that.

[RCWest]

When MPB started for me, my hair was coming out at a faster rate than usual. It usually tapers some as you age. Mine started at 17. It seems like more and more younger people are fighting MPB these days. I've seen 17 year olds who are already NW4!

[Swimmy]

When MPB started for me, my hair was coming out at a faster rate than usual. It usually tapers some as you age. Mine started at 17. It seems like more and more younger people are fighting MPB these days. I've seen 17 year olds who are already NW4!

 

 

Why do you think that is? Maybe something to do with the ever increasing unhealthy western diet?

 

 

Japanese have the lowest rate of MPB..And is the healthiest nation in the world. However, after WW2 when nations like Japan were opened to the western diet MPB actually spiked.

[Tom60]

its all about your genetics man. don't think too much about it.

[Swimmy]

its all about your genetics man. don't think too much about it.

 

Its all genetics is a lazy answer. "don't think too much about it" is definitely the wrong approach to take. Inherent predispositions are only part of the problem..The point is to work on them so they aren't as susceptible or so as not to trigger them.

 

[savehair]

#1 What was the cause for your initial hair loss? Do you believe it was stress related? It can be numerous things outside of MPB..Or just MPB. Its possible that a event in your life triggered the switch to start your hair loss. Also what do you mean by healthier eating? Some things you eat you think may be "healthy" really aren' healthy for hair. Like high Glucoser foods, or those that spike insulin.

 

 

#2 I wouldn't just taken random supplements for your hair loss. If you go that route you need to do lots of research. For starters you can visit the thread on top supplementations for hair loss that was made on here. Secondly the type of brand is all the more important.

 

3# How long did you use minox and fin for? You should use it for about 6 months to see any progress

 

4# Alternatives- Laser Helmet, experimental treatments. Things like that.

 

#1 i don't think it was stress related, i think it had to do more with a crazy life that i had during that 1 month. lots of all nighters, too much intimacy ....lol ( i know how some people say they can be unrelated but that's really all it was)

now i look back, i believe my MPB was very gradual just that 1 month it spiked significantly where density in my hair changed quite a bit.

 

healthier eating was really just including more supplements that targets at preventing hair loss such as the ones i've mentioned.

 

#2 i will definitely check it out, would you recommend to start saw palmetto again? i dropped it because i just dont really feel like it was of any help and i dont know if it's mental but it seems to have some sexual side effects on me such as low sex drive and i don't get my morning wood as i would before. i've taken saw palmetto for almost 5 years before the recent drop.

 

#3 i've used minox for about 1 year and half. i think my hair is a little bit thicker than before but i got mix feedback from people. never touched fina because im afraid of the potential side effects.

 

minox makes my hair really dried out and it leaves residue on my hair which makes it look like i have gray hair, any recommendations on that? (after i wash it out, my hair is very shiny and healthy without it on). im also suffering dizziness and a little bit of black eye from it.

 

i also agree with you that just letting it sit and do nothing about it is probably a bad idea unless you dont care much at all about at least maintaining what's left.

 

i guess my real question is do people's hair grow back from a thinning state to near where it once was because it doesn't seem to be the case unless for those adverstisements and scams.

Edited October 1, 2010 by savehair

[Swimmy]

#1 i don't think it was stress related, i think it had to do more with a crazy life that i had during that 1 month. lots of all nighters, too much intimacy ....lol ( i know how some people say they can be unrelated but that's really all it was)

now i look back, i believe my MPB was very gradual just that 1 month it spiked significantly where density in my hair changed quite a bit.

 

healthier eating was really just including more supplements that targets at preventing hair loss such as the ones i've mentioned.

 

#2 i will definitely check it out, would you recommend to start saw palmetto again? i dropped it because i just dont really feel like it was of any help and i dont know if it's mental but it seems to have some sexual side effects on me such as low sex drive and i don't get my morning wood as i would before. i've taken saw palmetto for almost 5 years before the recent drop.

 

#3 i've used minox for about 1 year and half. i think my hair is a little bit thicker than before but i got mix feedback from people. never touched fina because im afraid of the potential side effects.

 

minox makes my hair really dried out and it leaves residue on my hair which makes it look like i have gray hair, any recommendations on that? (after i wash it out, my hair is very shiny and healthy without it on). im also suffering dizziness and a little bit of black eye from it.

 

i also agree with you that just letting it sit and do nothing about it is probably a bad idea unless you dont care much at all about at least maintaining what's left.

 

i guess my real question is do people's hair grow back from a thinning state to near where it once was because it doesn't seem to be the case unless for those adverstisements and scams.

 

 

 

1- Staying up late and a lack of sleep can result in hair loss.. I actually think this in itself raises stress levels in your body. Too much intimacy shouldn't be a problem. . Studies show that only masturbation rasie DHT levels. Not sex itself.

 

 

 

2. Its possible it was helping you. If you ever got a shed after dropping it then its most likely it was helping. If you don't think the side effects are worth the risk of taking it then don't. If you take fish oil. Take Neptune Krill Oil. Its about as good as you can get and 9 times more absorb-able. Its about 18-20 dollars for 60 gel caps. However, I think the price evens out since you only have to take one a day and still be more effective than the likely 2-4 a day you have to take of generic fish oil. So in actuality the cost difference is very little, but a better product.

 

 

 

3- Have you stopped using minox? Hairs becoming minox dependent so you can get a shed from that. Oh and yes you are experiencing the common side effects of Minox. It can make you look sick.If you want to try something similar without the same side effects .You can try magnesium oil + Potassium chloride alternating topically . Just like minox it opens up the potassium channels in the scalp.

 

 

The earlier you catch it the better. But Its possible to turn miniaturized hairs into healthy hairs again. Right now I'm experimenting with different products on my hairline to see if I can get them unminiaturized

[savehair]

1- Staying up late and a lack of sleep can result in hair loss.. I actually think this in itself raises stress levels in your body. Too much intimacy shouldn't be a problem. . Studies show that only masturbation rasie DHT levels. Not sex itself.

 

 

 

2. Its possible it was helping you. If you ever got a shed after dropping it then its most likely it was helping. If you don't think the side effects are worth the risk of taking it then don't. If you take fish oil. Take Neptune Krill Oil. Its about as good as you can get and 9 times more absorb-able. Its about 18-20 dollars for 60 gel caps. However, I think the price evens out since you only have to take one a day and still be more effective than the likely 2-4 a day you have to take of generic fish oil. So in actuality the cost difference is very little, but a better product.

 

 

 

3- Have you stopped using minox? Hairs becoming minox dependent so you can get a shed from that. Oh and yes you are experiencing the common side effects of Minox. It can make you look sick.If you want to try something similar without the same side effects .You can try magnesium oil + Potassium chloride alternating topically . Just like minox it opens up the potassium channels in the scalp.

 

 

The earlier you catch it the better. But Its possible to turn miniaturized hairs into healthy hairs again. Right now I'm experimenting with different products on my hairline to see if I can get them unminiaturized

 

thanks Swimmy, i appreciate your lightning quick responses! it is really nice to have someone to talk about particularly around this topic haha...

 

#1. it was a mix of intimacy and masturbation for me. so i guess the increased masturbation accelerated the MPB for me....:eek:

 

#2. i think i did see a shed but i don't know if it was a different hair style or stress (currently under lots of stress). what are known saw palmetto sides? i heard rumors of it was sex related but i don't know if it has been confirmed.

 

i never really paid attention to brands, i focused mostly on the dosage and volume. but i think i will try different things because i think it does make a difference whether your body can absorb or not. can you point me to where the supplement link is? i cant find it in the forum. thanks!

 

#3. i'm still currently using minoxdil. 2 years going strong. i knew it was a committment so i started it . i really wanted to not only maintain but to regrow my hair even though it seems like a slim chance.

 

i actually never heard of magnesium oil + Potassium, is this something that you need to mix on your own or there are solutions out there ? i'll do a bit reading on those because the dizziness hits me like crazy.

 

 

i hope you are doing well yourself. i also tried lots of different things before until i just settled for the approved and proven approaches. the problem i see was the evaluation period is too long, it often takes 6 month+ to see if it works or not and it's quite a bit of investment with your time and money.

[Swimmy]

thanks Swimmy, i appreciate your lightning quick responses! it is really nice to have someone to talk about particularly around this topic haha...

 

 

#2. i think i did see a shed but i don't know if it was a different hair style or stress (currently under lots of stress). what are known saw palmetto sides? i heard rumors of it was sex related but i don't know if it has been confirmed.

 

 

 

 

I think the sides are similar Fin but to a lesser extent.

 

 

i never really paid attention to brands, i focused mostly on the dosage and volume. but i think i will try different things because i think it does make a difference whether your body can absorb or not. can you point me to where the supplement link is? i cant find it in the forum. thanks!

 

Brand is very important. No brand is the same. Some use crappy ingredients.ETC. Now Foods Brand seems to be the best overall brand for supplements and price.

 

Here's the link

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/157775-what-top-hair-supplements-swimmy.html

 

 

 

i actually never heard of magnesium oil + Potassium, is this something that you need to mix on your own or there are solutions out there ? i'll do a bit reading on those because the dizziness hits me like crazy.

 

 

Not sure if you mix it. I think you apply one that day and then the other the next.

 

i hope you are doing well yourself. i also tried lots of different things before until i just settled for the approved and proven approaches. the problem i see was the evaluation period is too long, it often takes 6 month+ to see if it works or not and it's quite a bit of investment with your time and money.

 

Too early to tell. Started a month ago. But it seems like my front hairs are getting a darker pigment

[savehair]

thanks Swimmy, i appreciate your lightning quick responses! it is really nice to have someone to talk about particularly around this topic haha...

 

 

I think the sides are similar Fin but to a lesser extent.

 

 

Brand is very important. No brand is the same. Some use crappy ingredients.ETC. Now Foods Brand seems to be the best overall brand for supplements and price.

 

Here's the link

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/157775-what-top-hair-supplements-swimmy.html

 

 

Not sure if you mix it. I think you apply one that day and then the other the next.

 

 

Too early to tell. Started a month ago. But it seems like my front hairs are getting a darker pigment

 

 

thanks again! also another thing i just recently started doing 1 month ago is that i use medic rollers before i apply minox. maybe a viable option for some of the people that didn't knew about it yet.

 

in case some of you that had no idea what it is. medic roller is basically a roller with mini spikes on it. i guess it opens up the pores on the scalp for for more absorption of any thing that you might want to apply. i think it also stimulates circulation on top.

 

use at your own consent though, since if you have sensitive scalp, you probably dont want to stimulate it even further

[Tom60]

when you start to lose your hair at that young of age, i seriously doubt it is from stress or related to that.

 

is there any baldness in the family?

[kattyandersonp]

I have really thin hair from Depo Provera making it fall out when I was 20 (am now 27) and I am currently using Pantene - Full & Thick. I have been trying to find something better. This stuff does make my hair fuller, but I noticed it also makes it brittle so it's breaking off all over the place and slightly frizzy at times (my hair is straight and not normally frizzy).

[savehair]

when you start to lose your hair at that young of age, i seriously doubt it is from stress or related to that.

 

is there any baldness in the family?

 

yep, my dad is going bald but he didnt start losing until 55.

 

my losing is definitely not stress driven. it was the increased level of DHT due to excessive sex and masturbation ....lol

 

too bad i dont think it reversible...