UK HAIR TRANSPLANT DISCUSSION

[ash7]

Hey all! I'm currently looking for a decent UK surgeon for my HT. I've already had consultation with "The Hospital Group" they were friendly and nice, they said I needed 1,000 / 1,500 grafts to bring back my hairline, and would cost me ??3,200 . I'm going to the Manchester Farjo clinic in April for a consultation, and hoping it will be promising. I've heard good things about Farjo and his work, whats the costs like there does anyone know ? I've also seen amazing results with DR FELLER , but does he do surgery in the UK ? Has any got any information or any decent experiences of UK based surgeons ? Does anyone belive in asking their GP for a decent HT surgeon or is it one of those things you have to do yourself? Let's discuss!

[ash7]

Hey all! I'm currently looking for a decent UK surgeon for my HT. I've already had consultation with "The Hospital Group" they were friendly and nice, they said I needed 1,000 / 1,500 grafts to bring back my hairline, and would cost me ??3,200 . I'm going to the Manchester Farjo clinic in April for a consultation, and hoping it will be promising. I've heard good things about Farjo and his work, whats the costs like there does anyone know ? I've also seen amazing results with DR FELLER , but does he do surgery in the UK ? Has any got any information or any decent experiences of UK based surgeons ? Does anyone belive in asking their GP for a decent HT surgeon or is it one of those things you have to do yourself? Let's discuss!

[Lucky_UK]

Ash, do your research, not just here but on other hairloss forums, you will quickly find that there are no decent clinics in the UK and most people who have HT's in the UK end up travelling to the US and Canada to have it fixed.

 

You will also get more grafts for your money if you travel.

 

Personally I would avoid both clinics you mentioned, especially the hospital group, they are butchers and there are a lot of horror stories on the web of no growth and terrible scarring, I would also advise you to meet patients of the HT clinic you choose so you can examine the quality of thier work before committing.

 

You would be better off posting photos of your hair on this and other forums for an unbiased opinion.

 

HTH

 

Lucky

[ash7]

cheers lucky ! i'm seeing and hearing great things about this DR FELLER? and your results are superb! is he pretty much the bee's knees ? thanks

ash

[Lucky_UK]

Well, I would praise Dr Feller because I have had a good result with him but there are also dozens of posters who have had HT's with Dr Feller and are happy with thier results too who also post photos of thier results, but like I said do your research, not just here and you will soon filter out the crap.

[Bill - Seemiller]

ash7,

 

If you want a quality hair transplant in the UK, I strongly recommend considering and consulting with Dr. Bessam Farjo and/or Dr. Nilofer Farjo. I believe that these physicians are on par with some of the very best in the world.

 

Dr. Feller does not perform surgery in the UK. But he is one of the elite group of talented physicians on the East Coast of the United States if you want to travel.

 

I encourage you to consult with and research any surgeon you are considering. Talk to, view photos of, and meet with real patients if possible.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[ash7]

Lucky_uk where did you get ur HT then ? did you go out to see Dr Feller in the states?

cheers

ash

[chucky]

Hi ash

 

Where in the UK are you as you may want to consider Dr Rogers as well.

If you search on here for Jinny she has just been to him and is very happy.

I would not go anywhere near the Hospital group as they have a track record of bad results.

 

It would be good if you could post photos as you may not need a ht and if you try the meds they may sort you out.

[richie48]

hey ash

 

here is a link to my recent hair transplant with Dr Feller , I had 2100 crown grafts in nov 2007

 

these are my four month progress pics

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=149011

 

I had some consultaions and contact with some UK clinics and then decided to travel to New York to see Dr Feller , its really easy and a hell of alot cheaper than the UK , and thats including flights and accomadation .

 

Spex is the man to speak to about Dr Feller and he can help with everything from just advice to arranging your trip

 

You can never really do enough research bud

 

I hope my info helps

richie

2100 crown grafts

Dr Feller

nov 2007

[ash7]

yeah Dr feller sounds superb! but whats his waiting list like ? and how long would i need off work and what not ? i'll get some pics up next week ! and how much would i be looking at ? and "chucky" i'm in wales :] and i'm gonna take everones advice and stay away from the hospital group i dont think i can afford a cock up ! and dr rogers i'll check him out

thanks for all your help

ash

[ash7]

yeah i did m8 :] cheers spex i'll give it a good read tomoz and get back to you all !

thanks again!

ash

[ash7]

Right i've had a read SPEX thanks for the lowdown! Ideally i want it doing in the UK due to that fact that if problems arrise i can hunt the surgeons down easily. I heard the farjo clinic are top and like i said i'm goign there next month. LUCKY_UK did you research into the FARJO clinic and can you let me know what you found out if you did !

cheers

ash

[richie48]

hey ash

 

here is a link to another recent UK guy who you may wish to contact as i believe he had 5 consults some in the USA and some in the UK

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=156140

 

like everyone says, you can never really do enough reaserch , good luck

 

richie

2100 crown grafts

Dr Feller

nov 2007

[Lucky_UK]

Originally posted by ash7:

LUCKY_UK did you research into the FARJO clinic and can you let me know what you found out if you did !

cheers

ash

 

I did look into Farjo and I wasn't impressed, I have seen online results and I would put them on par with Rogers clinic which in in a nutshell is terrible when you compare them against the big players like Feller, H&W, Shapiro etc, so why pay more for less? which brings me onto another thing which is these UK clinics cost more than the US and Canadian clinics, I live in Manchester and so it could of been convenient for me to have my HT at the Farjo clinic but I have not seen a single result that says wow!

 

And as for Billo's recommendation of Farjo's clinic, I would like to point out that he is paid to say that because Farjo sponsors this forum, ask Billo if he has seen a two year result by Farjo, could bet he hasn't, so like I already said, do some research on the other forums and ask to meet past patients of the HT doc.

 

Originally posted by ash7:

Ideally i want it doing in the UK due to that fact that if problems arrise i can hunt the surgeons down easily

Well don't count on that, in the long run all you will be doing is spending more money travelling to the US putting those problems right, there are dozens of cases where this has happened and those bad UK HT docs carry on trading.

[ash7]

cheers lucky! ok m8 how much did it cost you in total to go over there and get it all sorted? CHEERS

ASH

[richie48]

hey ash

 

when i came over to New York to have hair surgery with Dr Feller in november 2007 the exchange rate was only slightly better than now ,the UK?? was 0.475 to the US$ .

 

That ment you could get US $2.1 to UK ??1 .

 

Dr Feller did 2100 grafts and charged me $7850 ,that worked out to be ??3728 .

 

My flights with british airways and my accomadation for four nights was approximatly a further ??800

 

That is $3.70 or ??1.77 per graft .

 

As a direct comparison against UK prices ,in february 2007 i was quoted ??1750 for 500 grafts at a hair medical centre in the UK ,this was later reduced to ??1500 . at the time there was some confusion over whether this was for strip or fue , however since then I have been informed by the clinic that they do not offer fue .

 

but even at ??1500 that would have cost me ??3 per graft ,that is $6.30 per graft .

 

for me , as a uk patient it was lot cheaper to go to the states and see Dr Feller than to stay in the UK .

 

so it total it cost me just over ??4500 for 2100 grafts in New York , i had a strip method although Dr Feller does do fue it is more expensive and you have to fit the criteria , as in hair density , laxity of the scalp and hair chariteristics , spex can explain it better bud

 

richie

2100 crown grafts

Dr Feller

nov 2007

[dazza uk]

Hi Ash7,

I havent posted on here for a very long time, but when i saw that youve had a consult with the hospital group i had to reply. I did no research(BIG MISTAKE) had a HT with them which left me with no where near enough grafts and a big scar. 2nd HT again in the UK with dr rogers this time, and again dissapointed. DONT have a HT in the UK. I went to the states and had a repair with dr feller. I see u have contacted spex, a step in the right direction mate.

[Bill - Seemiller]

And as for Billo's recommendation of Farjo's clinic, I would like to point out that he is paid to say that because Farjo sponsors this forum,

 

Lucky,

 

Helping hair loss sufferers find real hair restoration solutions is my job, but I am not "paid" to promote those I do not believe in. I recognize that the Farjo's have had plenty of issues in the past, but I believe they have evolved and adapted to using the latest techniques and perform state of the art ultra refined follicular unit hair transplantation.

 

Look up more recent hair transplants performed by Dr. Farjo such as forum member "Balody", "FallenStar", and AnnaDawn.

 

Balody had his first hair transplant about 1.5 years ago and is growing quite nicely for his second one. FallenStar, for only 5 months is blossoming quite nicely, and AnnaDawn only just recently had surgery so though you can't evaluate the results, you can see the immediately postoperative pictures that are quite ultra refined.

 

It is important for all patients seeking to do their research and select a physician that impresses them the most. I am not "selling" anything, but helping members see that other options exist and that flying to the US may not be necessary.

 

Bill

[Lucky_UK]

Originally posted by Bill:

 

Look up more recent hair transplants performed by Dr. Farjo such as forum member "Balody", "FallenStar", and AnnaDawn.

 

Bill

 

Bill

 

Firstly, can I ask you again? have you actually seen any of Farjo's patients in person with a result that you can truly say is one of the best hair transplant results that you have ever seen, worthy of being equal to some of the worlds most elite HT clinics?

 

I have met two of farjo's patients in person and sadly they both screamed HAIR TRANSPLANT to me, and the results of Balody are average at best when compared to Jotronic, Fallen Star and AnnaDawn's results shouldn't even be considered as they are barely out of Farjo's operating chair so who knows what their results will be like in 12 months time, The Farjo Clinic has been in the coalition for around six months and in this time I have not seen ONE amazing result yet prior to them becoming a member of the coalition, so how come Bill?

 

I travelled to the US because I wanted to give it my best possible shot, but like I have already said, I have NEVER seen any incredible result by Farjo let alone by any Doctor from the UK and that is why I made this decision, the examples you have given are hardly impressive, all it proves is that Farjo has some nice fancy ultra-refined tools and can plant grafts into ones head but the bottom line is what will the final result look like? how can you say you are helping members see that other options exist when no final ultra refined results exist? you admitted that Farjo has had issues in the past, so how can you reassure that they are now as good as the best?

 

Look at patients of Feller, Shapiro, H&W, Rahal etc who show consistant results time after time on these boards and you will see how much you are insulting these elite clinics by plugging Farjo, I am astonished how far you will go to defend this clinic after what I have seen with my own eyes, the results are hardly like Spex's, Jotronic's, Bobman's or Hairroot's, I can say that for sure.

 

You of all people should know the main golden rule of HT research which is not to let distance be an issue, so I cannot understand how you keep defending Farjo and giving people false hopes that they could get a world class result with this clinic when you haven't even met any of Farjo's patients let alone seen a result that matches any of the US and Canadian clinics.

 

This is why I believe your motives for defending Farjo's clinic is purely to protect your commercial interests and not to protect the patients welfare, instead of promoting Farjo, why can't Farjo promote his own clinic and show the consistent results like other leading HT clinics instead of you running to thier rescue all the time?

 

I am not interested in your 10,000 word reply Bill, I have been around long enough to see that there is a financial agenga for you 'plugging' The Farjo Clinic, and my view will remain unchanged until you or The Farjo Clinic proves me wrong by posting some amazing results on a regular basis instead of linking the same patients in every thread.

 

Lucky

[NervousNelly]

Lucky,

 

I myself have been a major thorn in the side of Pat and Bill with respect to the addition of new docs. I understand what it is you are saying and I agree that in my opinion it is too early to draw any conclusions on the Farjo clinic. I look at them as guilty until proven innocent based on their horrific past. In saying that however, I am open to seeing them attempt to clear up their soured reputation but ofcourse I will certainly not be the one to recommend them to others quite yet. Some of the work that I have seen so far has been impressive I will openly state. Readily I admit that I have not seen the patient in person.

 

The way I see things is that there are a handful of docs that I will feel secure in promoting. That is not to say that that list won't grow, but whether they are recommended or considered in the Coalition means nothing to me until they prove themselves on an ongoing basis. I think that it is not right of me to send a prospective patient to a doc that I have only seen 1 or 2 photos of their work. Has my stance changed on this topic over time? Yes, but I am allowed to change my perspective and belief system as my knowledge of HT's improves.

 

Pat and Bill I hope anyway have more insight than most of us so they are certainly entitled and feel comfortable in recommending the doctors they do. I will try hard to keep my mouth shut and not argue their belief, but I will still also only recommend as I feel confortable.

 

There is no doubt that this ambiguity and constant conflict is confusing to the newbie, but so be it. The more they don't understand the more they will research things for themselves and be confident in their decisions. I for one do hope that in the near future we are seeing a list of 50 docs with similar talent and I can comfortably tell a person that they don't need to travel. Unfortunately I don't believe we are there yet.

[Bill - Seemiller]

Lucky,

 

And you tell me that you don't want me to give a 10,000 word reply .

 

My vote of confidence in the Farjo clinic has everything to do with quality of results, nothing less, nothing more.

 

I understand that we are going to take a lot of scrutiny for recommending physicians who have had a shaky history. But we believe the Farjo clinic has evolved significantly and is now producing quality results worthy of the Coalition. It would have been a lot easier for us to NOT recommend them, but being a pioneer often means going against the flow to do what is right. This is not a popularity contest.

 

But instead of debating with you on your wrongful thoughts of a financial conspiracy theory, I'll simply continue to point to evidence of quality results, which is why they are members of the Coalition in the first place.

 

Mick McHugh of the Farjo Clinic creates and posts patient photo albums in the hair transplant patient photo albums section semi-regularly. This particular 3800 hair transplant in 2 sessions by the Farjo clinic is pretty incredible. What do you think? A video of this result can also be found by clicking here.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

[Lucky_UK]

Originally posted by Bill:

Lucky,

 

My vote of confidence in the Farjo clinic has everything to do with quality of results, nothing less, nothing more.

 

One ok result in how many years..................... get them in the coalition then Bill

[balody]

here we go again,just a couple of things.

lucky,first do not compare my results to the majority of uk feller patients posted on here

a lot of his results shown are not norwood 5/6 with below average donor.with the exception of stevo i cant think of one off the top of my head.compare me with stevo instead of spex and i would say we have similar results.

nervous,what horrific past are you talking about?when i did my research granted i couldnt find many results by farjo on the forums,but i couldnt find one bad result from them either.so show me their horrific past,or have you been sucked into the"show some horror uk clinic pics,mention farjo and tar them all with the same brush"scenario?

at the end of the day the clinic has been visited by pat in person who has seen work being performed first hand on patients.they have passed all the criteria needed to enter the coalition and mick reguarly posts photos,there are 3 patients posting positve experiences on here not as many as feller,hasson etc but 3 more than a year ago,who knows how many in a years time?

i just cant understand a certain group of peoples problem with the clinic?

[NervousNelly]

Balody,

 

I really don't want to go down that road. It is no secret that their past is tarnished. I don't want to put words in someone elses mouth but I believe that Bill, Pat, Bspot, NoBuzz, and Jotronic will all agree with that statement.

 

Let's focus on the now. They are performing much better work. You have had a great experience and look much improved. The more work like yours and others posting and possibly soon the whole arguement will be a thing of the past.

[balody]

nn,i dont want to go down that road either,in fact im sick of going down that road but when people use terms such as "horrific"and"guilty"etc with no good reason i find myself on it time and time again.