John M

Filling in, albeit slower then I (or anyone) would like. Had a followup visit, and Dr Feller said i'm right where I should be.

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I know; many of you are probably thinking to themselves that I should of read this before I posted. I did. But looking at alot of other people's pics shows some serious growth at month 4-5, the "More impatience/doubt. This didn't work and Frustration (looking in mirror every hour), so I feel like the results will be not too good, although i'm sure i'm jumping the gun, and i'm probably a slower grower than those people in the pics.

But the area that I was describing isnt infected now. It was infected a few days after the procedure, and i'm sure it was infected because there was pus involved. Now over 4 months later, the only area thats smooth is that area. All other areas are sprouting hair.

As said most who replied to my last post regarding unshed and inactive hairs, I waited for Dr Feller to respond to the post. Perhaps he didn't catch that post. I also PMed him and emailed his website, but I never received an answer. Hopefully he will see this post since his name is in the subject. Here is a copy of that post:

"In the recent past, I posted questions on the black dots and hairs from the grafts that never fell out after 3.5 months. It is now 4 months, and decided to try something. I still have the blunt hairs that never grew, and they still slip out with a hook at the end where it goes into the scalp. I started grabbing those black dots with my nail and noticed that it changed from a black dot to a hair sprout. I got the tweezers, and pulled on it. It was like something out of a cartoon; the hair kept getting longer and longer until it came out of the scalp. The top and bottom of the hair was blunt; as if it was cut on both ends. There were quite a few that did this, all easily slipping out of the scalp while it kept getting longer. Obviously these are "dead" hairs, and I wonder what the deal is here?"

There is a new situaion involving an infection I had on one side of my head where grafts were placed when I first received the procedure. I had a white patch at the site of infecton which was actually a patch of pus that took a few days to heal. I was washing it with GraftCyte shampoo, which helped it heal quicker. Anyway, fast foward to today (4 months, 3 weeks later), and just in that spot there are no hairs sprouting at all. All that's there is a few blunt cut non active hairs. everywhere else that grafts were place are growing, albeit sparse. Did the infection damage the grafts?

This is my 4.5 month update taken with and without a flash. The pic taken with the flash shows hair brushed back, and without the flash it's foward. Honestly judging from the other peoples pics, I though at this point i'd have more growth, although I know it's still early.

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Yes, the Dr will clear things up for me. I PMed him, and still waiting for a reply. Hopefully he'll respond to this thread or my PM. Sending him email via his website results in speaking to his receptionist, but i'd much rather speak to him. Bill, maybe you can change the title to include his name so he can see this thread?

PGP, when you pulled on them, did they keep gettig longer before they came out?

I did ask, but not about this. I asked about the hooked hair that just slips out. I wasnt able to speak with him, just his receptionist who told me to leave them alone. When I asked if it would hurt the follicle, she just said that at this point nothing would. I know Dr Feller reads these threads, and so hopefully he can shed some light on this subject.

In the recent past, I posted questions on the black dots and hairs from the grafts that never fell out after 3.5 months. It is now 4 months, and decided to try something. I still have the blunt hairs that never grew, and they still slip out with a hook at the end where it goes into the scalp. I started grabbing those black dots with my nail and noticed that it changed from a black dot to a hair sprout. I got the tweezers, and pulled on it. It was like something out of a cartoon; the hair kept getting longer and longer until it came out of the scalp. The top and bottom of the hair was blunt; as if it was cut on both ends. There were quite a few that did this, all easily slipping out of the scalp while it kept getting longer. Obviously these are "dead" hairs, and I wonder what the deal is here?

Thanks all for the responses. I guess it's that deep down I know already what everyone said, but needed to hear it for reinforcement.

Really. Were they short, blunt cut, and thick? I dont think these will grow, because I think theyre the original hairs that were in the grafts when Dr Feller put them in. A light tug, and they come right out.

No, i'm hoping they shed soon so the new hairs dont get ingrown or infected. I know they're not growing and are just sitting there, so i'd like em gonw to make room for the new hairs.

It' now over my 3.5 month mark. As you can see from my pics, everything healed up nicely, and I have some growth beginning. I asked a few weeks ago about some grafts that did not shed. Even now there are some hairs that are blunt, short and not growing. I tugged on a few, and they came right out. I emailed Dr Feller about this, thinking that at this point all grafts should be shed or if not, growing, and was answered by his receptionist. She told me that the Dr said to leave them alone. When I asked if tugging on them would hurt the follicle, she said at this point I can't. I still have these hairs, and was wondering if anyone else has(d) these at the 3.5 month mark. On one side where there are some, it seems to be more itchy than normal, and touching these hairs seems to be more sensitive than other areas.

Good Lord, what punishment... wonder what I did wrong in my past life?

Tips of the ears meaning the middle tips. Looking down from the top the highest point of the ear. I never knew what I received, and if you look up a past post, I ask Dr Feller what I received and he answered how many and where he placed them. Never thought to ask why.

No idea, as I hate excercising. But i'm sure that after 3.5 months, i'd be able to do everything as if I never had a transplant. I'm still curious as to why the Dr put the remaining singles at the very back of the transplant. I would think doubles or triples would go there. And I think its more like the 1/3 of the head. Looking down from the top of the head, it starts at the tips of the ears to the front.

I'm pretty sure that I had some shockloss, as by now the shaved native hair is about as long as it was before the Dr shaved it. I'm really not too worried about that, just was mostly worried to have to go in again for a second procedure. I've seen guys pics on here and I cant remember their names, but they had the same loss pattern, and received about the same number of grafts and after it grew in, it appeared that it was very dense, and wouldnt need another procedure.

I'm not sure if the Dr could of gotten more grafts; I never asked. Originally at my consultation he estimated about 2500; up to joking 3000 if my wife would ok it. Told him there was none, and to place 3000. So I guess if he estimated 2500, 3281 should give a pretty good density, right?

notgoing, yes I take a 9MP pic, then set the closeup on the camera with an ISO of 80, then snap away.

I know I cant judge yet, but i'm worried that when it does grow in after 12 months, it wont look dense; almost like I paid big $$ to look like i'm loosing my hair. I really should of told Dr Feller to put as many as he can; maybe like 4500 or more in that area. I received 3281. We agreed on 3000+, but during the procedure I heard them say that theyre going to have to make 2 or 300 more slits. Dr Feller did, and they placed more grafts. Dr Feller said that I had X amount of singles, all placed in the hairline, Y amount of double & triples behind that, and the remaining singles at the very back of the transplant. Is this because there was nowhere else to place them?

This is my 3 month 2 week update. What do you guys think?

This is my 3 month 2 week update. What do you guys think?

I'd say I have about 50-100 of them. There was about 9 of them in a group by my left temple since I had the procedure done, and I pulled most of them out the other day. They look exactly like the hairs that shed within the first month.

But it's not the blackheads that I was talking about. It's the hairs that were attached to the follicles that were used in the grafts. they're about 1/4"; the same size that they were when they were implanted. They never changed in length, and they come right out with a hook at the end. I'm assuming that they shed, but didnt phisically fall out, and that there's a new hair developing below it, and will be pushed out when the new hair starts growing.

It's going to be 3 months since my procedure of 3280 grafts this Tuesday. I had a few questions that i'm curious about. Most original hairs from the grafts had shed within a month of the procedure. I noticed recently that there are a few thick, blunt short hairs that don't grow; they just stay in the scalp. Someone here suggested that if I tug on these hairs, they'll come right out. They did, and they have a club or hook at the end, which suggests that they were the anagen effluvium hairs. I also was told that they can cause irritation if they stay. My question to this is, if I leave them, will it hinder growth of the new hair, or will the new hair push the old one out? Second question is that assuming you go to a top rated doctor, do all grafts grow provided that they didnt get dislodged at the beginnig of the procedure, or do some die off in the scalp, and never grow? Third, which may be a silly question, but i'll ask it anyway; at 3 months after the procedure, are there still follicles that didnt begin producing hair yet, and are not poking through the scalp?

It's going to be 3 months since my procedure of 3280 grafts this Tuesday. I had a few questions that i'm curious about. Most original hairs from the grafts had shed within a month of the procedure. I noticed recently that there are a few thick, blunt short hairs that don't grow; they just stay in the scalp. Someone here suggested that if I tug on these hairs, they'll come right out. They did, and they have a club or hook at the end, which suggests that they were the anagen effluvium hairs. I also was told that they can cause irritation if they stay. My question to this is, if I leave them, will it hinder growth of the new hair, or will the new hair push the old one out? Second question is that assuming you go to a top rated doctor, do all grafts grow provided that they didnt get dislodged at the beginnig of the procedure, or do some die off in the scalp, and never grow? Third, which may be a silly question, but i'll ask it anyway; at 3 months after the procedure, are there still follicles that didnt begin producing hair yet, and are not poking through the scalp?

The doctor who did his hair passed away. I can't remember his name. I saw Dr Feller's hair, and before he told me he had it done, I didnt even suspect it was done.