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On 2/10/2023 at 6:10 PM, Dannyboy88 said:

£4750 in total 👍 

That’s a good price for a 2 day procedure with 6400 grafts.

I think dr yaman is the best value for money option…

1 hour ago, Tydean said:

Yes I have heard his is. But I’m just concerned about the conservative hairline I don’t want to spend all that money and travel all that way to not be happy with it. From what I’ve heard he does the hairline he wants and that’s it. 

You don’t have to worry about a conservative hairline. Think that dr Gur does conservative hairlines for your own profit. He want to save donor grafts for future use. He is an ethical doctor who doesn’t want to spend all of your grafts in lowering your hairline. 
but if you have small hair loss problem you can negotiate with him about the hairline height. I don’t think that’s a problem at all…

Both turan and Gur are really good options..Gur’S hairlines are natural and he also does 2 patients a day.
His is an ethical surgeon and take good care of every patient..the same apply for turan too. 

All the best 🙏 You did a good choice by selecting dr yaman. Nice density all over your scalp area. Can u tell us the price for the 2 day procedure ? Thanks 😊 

3 hours ago, marcoslw said:

Which doctors are as talented for a cheaper price?

Higher price doesn’t mean better quality. There are ethical surgeons in affordable price who produce consistent and good results without having to spend all of your money to them. 
 

for example you could select either of dr yaman, dr Gur, dr turan and dr Demirsoy. Their price range is between 3000-4500€ for 3000-4500 grafts. 

On 2/7/2023 at 12:19 AM, Haloeffect said:

Hello! I’m new to this hair transplant world. Would love to get some tips. 
I have very thick curly frizzy dry hair, but it went diffuse thinned on top when I was 19. Today I’m 32 years old and not much has changed. Still diffuse on top. But I’m tall and my existing hair is thick and curly, so people in general don’t notice so easily. 
I have no balding in family, my dad/uncles/brothers/grand parents all have a full head of hair. 
 

I was thinking about doing an hair transplant in Turkey, because I have a lot of time now. But where? I’ve read it’s important to have a skilled surgeon because I’m diffuse thinner and have curly hair. Someone know where to go? 
 

also, how fast can I do the transplant? Is it a long waiting time? 

For now i think its better to take finasteride, which is going to help you a lot.

After 1 year you could take again photos and compare the before/after. There are good and skilled surgeons in Turkey in afforable price starting from 1 euro/graft. You could consider Dr Yaman, Turan, Gur, Demirsoy, Bicer, Pekiner, HLC, Keser. All those surgeons are safe choices in Turkey. 

10000 grafts in one siting. ?? That’s interesting…how many of them are scalp and how many beard grafts ?

Happy growing btw…If you get high yield this is going to be a massive transformation. I will be following ur journey. 

6 hours ago, Gook said:

KESER- maximum 2000 grafts. 3.5 euro/piece No more than 500 pieces per day. This did not suit me. 4 days for transplant...

BICER Everything is simple here.
Our price is 1 graft is 2.5€. Your 3500 (+-200) grafts operation price will be 8750 €. BUT! She has no appointment for the next 2 months.

DEMIRSOY  "...Dr.Demirsoy evaluate your hair loss and told that if the donor area will allow there must be transplanted 3500-3800 grafts to the front and top area . The first and second step of the surgery ( extraction and open the incisions ) will be done by Dr.Demirsoy himself. The last step to place the grafts inside the channels will be done by our nurses. Dr Demirsoy is making always one surgery a day.The surgery will be done in one day.The next day will be the follow Up (head wash,detailed explanation about the post op care). 1 graft costs 1.5 euro..."

I was embarrassed that the doctor would use a micromotor. But! Huge plus. The doctor does all the manipulations himself.

And the clinic performs one operation per day.

Well, now the question. I liked the doctor's DEMIRSOY suggestion.
But I am ready to listen to any criticism.
Thanks for reading.

 

firstly I think you should start finasteride to stop ur hair loss.
 

regarding your options I would say the following :

Dr Demirsoy is indeed a very good option in Turkey with doctor doing the most steps of the procedure by himself at a decent price of 1.5 €/g. 

yaman is also good option. He has the option of manual punch instead of motorised punch too. Maybe you could ask about that, but most clinics nowadays use motorised punch instead of manual. 
 

Fuecapilar is also very good option. So definitely wait for dr turan’s and dr Gur’S suggestion for your hair loss problem..

6 minutes ago, Bald47 said:

I just returned from my transplant with Dr. Yaman.  Everything you described was 100% accurate.  Thank you so much for taking the time to write about your experience. 

happy growing to your surgery with dr yaman. It would be nice if you could make your own thread and share your journey with us...

@Dr. Felipe Pittellais known for his giga sessions in just one day. I have seen he has many threads with over 6000 grafts in just one day from Dr Pittella. Eugenix is also well known for its giga sessions. 

Looks great work..Another 7k session of dr pittella in just one day.
 

Dr pittella’s patients solver their hair loss problem with just one session, without having to suffer with multiple hair transplants…

Firstly happy growing. Yea it looks like 3k grafts. 

dr turan is an ethical surgeon and he sends to his patients an analytical report with all recipient and donor area details. 
 

12 minutes ago, HappyMan2021 said:

Perhaps Mwamba charges more for repairs because they require a lot more surgical planning, skill/expertise, and are more time-consuming. 

Extracting and reimplanting badly angled grafts requires a lot more skill and is alot different than straightforward implantation on a virgin scalp. 

Both procedures repairs and normal ones need the same surgical planning, skill expertise and they are time cosnuming (the normal ones would be more time consuming, since in them they extract and implant more grafts). The extra thing with repairs is to just remove some handrend (?) grafts from hairline. Do u think that would be time consuming?? i dont think so. 

If a surgeon dedicates a day for a normal procedure, then he would dedicate a day also for a repair procedure. So in both cases he spends a day and the same techs and surgical stuff would be used. So no extra expenses for the clinic and no extra time for the repair.

52 minutes ago, HappyMan2021 said:

 

Mwamba has different prices for virgin scalps vs repairs. No clue how much Bisanga charges but for Mwamba repairs its basically $4k per half day $8k for full day of repairs. And this may be a multiple day procedure. It likely will be, as Mwamba likes to take his time. So Mwamba is certainly not a cheap doctor in terms of repairs.

Also keep in mind the 21% VAT tax.

the complication with extracting bad angles is, during 1 round of surgery, if 2 badly angled grafts are very close to each other, only 1 can be extracted during that round. Extracting both would lead to two small holes that connect each other to form one large hole, scarring, bad stuff, etc. 

So extracting bad angles often involves multiple procedures. If your bad angles are really spaced apart you may be in luck, you would have to ask Bisanga and Mwamba if you consult with them. 

 

You live in France correct? Since Bisanga and Mwamba are so close by to you, I would consider them both somewhat equally. Also keep in mind the repair cost of Mwamba and they may be relatively equal pricing.

There is also Feriduni in Belgium. He doesnt have as much publicity/marketing as the above doctors but from what I have observed, he is equally as skilled at repairs as the above doctors. He just kind of flies under the radar. 

Cooley in the US is renowned as well, but probably more inconvenient for you due to geography. 

If you want even more options, pretty much every "elite" doctor is competent and experienced with repairs. Unfortunately with the state of the industry, so many hairmills, and so many people getting botched, there are so many repair patients out there that even doctors who do not market themselves specifically as "repair" specialists still have loads of experience doing repair surgeries.

Ex. H&W and Konior don't really tout or market themselves as repair doctors, but are nonetheless still extremely experienced in repairs and likely could do just or almost just as good of a job as the true "repair doctors"

A surgery should be charged depending on the number of grafts even if it is repair or not.

So I don’t agree with the fact that mwmaba charges more for repairs since if they dedicate a day for a normal procedure the same applies for a repair procedure. The same techs would be used in both procedures, and the same surgery stuff…The money the get for a normal procedure is already high enough, so no reason for extra charges.  

I think It’s a marketing trick for clinics to use the word “repair” to ask for more money from clients and increase their profits. 

2 hours ago, marcoslw said:

I'm contacting some clinics for a hair transplant and they are giving different options (DHI or FUE).
I did some research but still not sure what's the best for my case.

DHI is the method of FUE where the grafts are inserted into the scalp with implanter pen and not with a tweezers...

2 hours ago, marcoslw said:

I'm not finding Dr Pekiner contacts. Do you have?

Dr Pekiner's clinic is called neohead clinic

https://www.instagram.com/neoheadclinic/

Awesome result mate. It looks so natural and dense 👍 thanks for sharing it with us…😃😃

14 hours ago, stockholmare said:

Hello dear forum-friends, 

I am posting with my heart full of hope, as I will soon leave to Madrid to touch up my first (unsuccessful) procedure with dr Couto. I am now 13 months post-op, as the first surgery was carried out in Jan 2022. For reference, you can find that thread here

So, tomorrow I will undergo another procedure, with him again to add the density that failed to stem from the first surgery.

Backgroud:

After the 2000 grafts procedure, according to the Dr, my body failed to provide enough blood supply to the transplanted units, thus delivering low yield: the doc will assess the exact yield and needed grafts for this second surgery once I’ll be at the clinic. In my personal opinion my yield was about 30-35% (I am unsure tbh), but I hope he will bring some of his magic and not to need too many grafts, because I would like to keep some for future needs, should there be.

Looking forward:

I decided to go again with dr. Couto because, despite the low growth of the first procedure he struck me as a very integer person and professional, who truly cares about his patients and their happiness, and whose skills are second to none.

I will update this regularly for your reference.

Attached is the 13 months post op situation that I hope dr. Couto will be able to fix🤞🤞

Wish me luck!😄

Good luck with your second procedure.

Your first surgery with dr Couto was indeed bad with low yield which is totally unacceptable when you pay premium and you don’t want to lose any valuable grafts.

I wish your second surgery with couto to be better than the first one. Keep us updated. 

It depends on the clinic. Some clinics can be able to extract large numbers of grafts per sessions without a problem at all. 
 

for example I have seen many cases from @Dr. Felipe Pittellathat he extracts 6500 grafts in one day session without any problem to the donor. 

In most clinics techs do the extractions and the doctor the incisions. For example in eugenix in all packages techs do the extractions. Also Freitas, couto, Lorenzo have techs doing the extractions as well. Same with dr yaman. So I don’t think that’s a problem at all. 

I think you are in safe hands with yaman and you could also select the manual type of extractions instead of motorised. Dr yaman gives consistent good and natural results at a decent price. 

Otherwise dr Gur And dr turan would be a good choice too. 

15 minutes ago, HappyMan2021 said:

@TrainingDay can you clarify how it worked having both doctors operate on you? Was Dr. Bisagna the one in charge and calling the shots, and Dr. Kostis acting in more of a tech-role?

I think it would be really confusing and detrimental to be operated on by 2 doctors if they acted as equals during surgery and needed to agree/debate on every step of the process. 

Maybe they do not act as equals during the surgery. Bisanga might be the one who arranges the plan and everything and dr kostis who carries out the orders (doing the extractions) instead of a tech 

8 minutes ago, TrainingDay said:

I chose the package with both doctors rather than just Bisanga. I think it was 2$ less/graft.

 

Man it was terrible. I hope people see our advice here and steer clear 😆

Aha cool. So it was your choice so select both doctors cause it’s was a more budget option. Dr kostis is still a decent doctor though.
So what was the price/graft in the package you got with the 2 doctors ?

Happy growing. I think you will get a good result.
So dr bisanga did the incisions and dr kostis the extractions. Could you tel us why dr bisanga did not do the extractions as well ? It wasn’t possible to select him do to the extractions except of incisions ? 

Happy growing. You did an excellent choice by selecting dr Yaman. He gives consistent good and natural results at an affordable price. So I think you will be also satisfied with your result.👍