Thanks for your response, you definitely look similar to me and interesting to see that you think I could be creeping into the NW5 region. Do you think you could achieve the desired results you want without Finasteride. I appreciate your point honestly and I get it, this is why I am trying to understand if it a HT is worth me doing as someone who does not want to use Fin. The main risk is if I continue to NW 7 territory right? If I didn't want results could I expect to get?