UnbaldEagle

Just now, LondonRamen said:

Literally just made the thread haha. My surgery finished up yesterday and I had time while I recover now

 

 

Wow, perfect timing, haha. Thanks!!! 

19 hours ago, LondonRamen said:

Hey, I booked soon after my consult with him in June/July ish for November. I suggested the November date first as that was when worked for me and it was acceptable to him on the first try so we didn't need to change the dates around based on his waiting list. When I spoke to him yesterday he told me he's currently booked out with patients until Februrary so if you spoke to him now that would probably the earliest you would get. Maybe January too as I recall one patient was going to do it with him then but then rearranged so there might be space then again.

 

P.S. I just looked at your photo below of your thinning zone. Your frontal thinning is similar to mine, but mine is more recessed at the temples and Bruno happily worked on that region to restore the hairline for me. I can't comment on your crown thinning, though it looks quite thick to me and I imagine quite difficult to implant into. Certainly by my metric I wouldn't call it thinning in the crown, though you have long hair which could be disguising it well.

Thanks, LondonRamen, good to know Dr. Ferreira might be available in January and that he worked through your thinning hairline and temples. 

I couldn't find a thread showing your journey with Dr. Ferreira, I'd love to see some pics if you shared them anywhere.

Also, how's your temple points? Couldn't see that from your pictures. If you would lower your hairline a bit more or add extra density to your existing, you'd need some solid temple points too to have a natural look.

I think your case is very similar to mine, I too had a first procedure of 1200 grafts to fill in my temples and hairline a bit and yes, I still had some patchy native hair in those areas prior to the first procedure, however you've got way better coverage now. 

I think the real challenge is finding a clinic that would be willing to transplant through the thin areas, I'm a bit stuck there too. 

I don't think your MPB is particularly aggressive, in fact I'm sure to the layman it doesn't look like you're balding at all. However there's about 2-3 cm that's missing from your original hairline imo, which could be fixed by a small procedure, for sure, however you're only 28 and not on medication, so imagine that the area behind your hair transplant will continue to thin out, how would that look in 5-10-15 years? 

Dr. Reddy seems like a good choice but forget about Cinik.

So I'm bumping this thread because I need further advice.

I'm currently in talks with HDC via Doron Harati, who has been very, very helpful, albeit the clinic is unsure if they are able to transplant through the thin areas without hurting the old grafts. So they asked for more pictures and I await their response. I would be thrilled if they accept me and wouldn't look any further. 

I'm uploading a few more pictures of better quality, I'm curious what do you guys think. Has anyone had a similar case, where they just needed some density in the thin areas and a clinic accepted to proceed? I would lower my hairline a bit if that's what it takes, I think I have a rather high forehead? The density on top is alright thanks to many years of fin + min, apart from the crown. I'm not too bothered about that though. 

Also, I just reviewed my shortlist and I realized I never meant Cinik, lol. I confused him with Civas - although I'm fairly uncertain of him too. 

However, I'm adding Dr. Taleb Barghouthi, Dr. Bruno Pinto and Dr. Arshad to my list.

On 11/15/2020 at 11:33 AM, LondonRamen said:

Portugal is actually open as OP appears to be from the UK by way he uses £. I was able to get in fine just yesterday from the UK for my procedure with Bruno Ferreira. Most surgeons will also happily write you a doctors note so you can cross the borders.

Though depending on when OP chooses to have the surgery i.e. before/after the UK properly leaves the EU in January, he may have to do a covid-19 screen on arrival as currently UK citizens do not need to.

Thanks for the update, LondonRamen!

Good to know travelling wouldn't be an issue. 

How long did you wait to get to surgery with Dr. Ferreira? I heard his waiting list is really long, you have to book like 4-5 months in advance. 

Wow, looks very good already! I'm sure it will be an excellent result. 

18 minutes ago, giegnosiganoe said:

How many singles are needed for the hairline? If it can be described in not only graft count, which I guess can vary a bit depending on the size of one's head, but also number of single haired graft "rows", then that would be very helpful.

I guess if we're thinking of a 1cm^2 area with 50 grafts (as is usual for high density hairlines), then we'd have around 7x7 (= ~50) grafts, meaning a single row of 1cm width should contain around 7 single hair grafts. I guess a hairline is around 15 cm wide? So 15 * 7 = 105 grafts, that means if we want two rows of single haired grafts (2/7 of a cm in length) then we'd need 210 single haired grafts. I'm not sure how many rows are required.

Thoughts?

I've been told once by a rather reputable clinic that they do one "row" of singles, as that should be able to camouflage the multis behind it, granted the transition to doubles, triples, etc. is gradual. 

Imo it should be more than one "row", especially if not all singles grow back. Your estimate sounds about right.

19 hours ago, Rossybop said:

Yeah, its pretty much price that has spurred me on to look a bit further afield. I'd have probably picked Bisanga or Feriduni if I was rockin' way more cash at the minute.

Anastasakis is the treasurer of the America Hair Restoration board. He's won a few awards in Greece recently. He's also published a 903 page scientific study on hair treatment, soon it will be dispersed throughout the world to most hair restoration professionals. He has been leading a lot of presentations and world talks on hair transplant surgery.

He's been shooting through the shadows via Instagram lately. I spoke to a dermatologist on Linkedin - Peter Prendergast. P. Prendergast had a HT from Anastasakis last year and he said he was brilliant, and P. Prendergast is an aesthethic medical professional himself so that's a good sign.

I just get a really good feeling from Anasatsakis. He seems to take pride in his work and good care of his patients.

I've investigated HDC too and they look really good but I did discover a bad review here relating to HDC and I prefer the vibe I get from Saifi and Anastasakis.

Sikos was one of the first guys I tried to investigate but he has a handful of bad Google reviews and his results online don't look as good as results I've seen elsewhere. Also, nobody on any of these forums knew anything about Sikos. Its hard to find patients who have had a transplant from him.

Anyway, good luck with Anastasakis if you really wanna go with him. Looks promising what you wrote of him. 

19 hours ago, Rossybop said:

Yeah, its pretty much price that has spurred me on to look a bit further afield. I'd have probably picked Bisanga or Feriduni if I was rockin' way more cash at the minute.

Anastasakis is the treasurer of the America Hair Restoration board. He's won a few awards in Greece recently. He's also published a 903 page scientific study on hair treatment, soon it will be dispersed throughout the world to most hair restoration professionals. He has been leading a lot of presentations and world talks on hair transplant surgery.

He's been shooting through the shadows via Instagram lately. I spoke to a dermatologist on Linkedin - Peter Prendergast. P. Prendergast had a HT from Anastasakis last year and he said he was brilliant, and P. Prendergast is an aesthethic medical professional himself so that's a good sign.

I just get a really good feeling from Anasatsakis. He seems to take pride in his work and good care of his patients.

I've investigated HDC too and they look really good but I did discover a bad review here relating to HDC and I prefer the vibe I get from Saifi and Anastasakis.

Sikos was one of the first guys I tried to investigate but he has a handful of bad Google reviews and his results online don't look as good as results I've seen elsewhere. Also, nobody on any of these forums knew anything about Sikos. Its hard to find patients who have had a transplant from him.

I know what you mean about Sikos. Actually his was the first clinic I contacted prior to my first HT as he's an IAHRS member and recommended by Spex (I know those shouldn't be deciding factors), but I was eventually put off by those Google reviews and his super long waiting list. Mind you however, those Google reviews were coming from Hungarians, and they are the most hardly pleased and complaining bunch out there (I know, I was born there, lol). Also, his name means "slippery" and he's a slick bald old guy, why should he care about us, right? Okay, putting the joke aside, I've come to believe since that he's really, really good, he delivers natural results. He is very conservative however, if you look at his results he favors the receding, naturally thinning approach, which is not a bad thing though, I think it's actually ethical to look at the big picture and think of these patients as they age. Dr. Ball has the same mindset when it comes to older patients. 

I think his most "suspicious" too-good-to-be-true result is this:

https://www.hairtransplantation.bg/index.php/en/results/event/results/6050FUEChestGrafts

I remember reading somewhere that BHT is very challenging and time consuming, as the level of transection could be much larger and only about 100 follicular units can be extracted in an hour. Also, chest grafts rarely contain more than one hair and are much finer, thinner in diameter. 

How on earth was he able to extract 3000 FUs in 2 days, was he working overnight or what? Also, body hair being thinner and mostly singular, provides less coverage even if it's a high density transplant.

I may be a poor judge of this, but the guy is hairy alright, however not on a chewbacca/wolfman level, so I'm not sure if there were 6000 grafts to be extracted there. 

If it is true however, he seems to make the most out of BHT too, I've never seen anything like this, not even from Umar.

24 minutes ago, Rossybop said:

Wow. I see. Interesting.

God it really is such a hard decision to pick one surgeon 😂

How come you've narrowed it down to Anastasakis or Saifi? The latter is good alright, but I never heard of Anastasakis. What makes you think he's a top surgeon?

Is it the price that deters you from going with the renowned surgeons from the UK, Spain or Belgium, or proximity? If the latter, I think HDC and Dr. Sikos would be better options than both Saifi or Anastasakis. 

15 minutes ago, Rossybop said:

Apparently Dr Anastasakis measures several facial features, including your jawline, when he is designing his patient's hairline. I'm not sure if Dr Saifi does this, or if it is common practice.

Can anyone tell me is this common? Does it signify aesthethic skill if a surgeon takes such measures in designing a hairline?

Not necessarily, although in theory it seems to be a good indicator. 

Here Dr. Balwi makes several interesting points, takes measurements, speaks of your forehead muscles, etc., like someone who's a pro and actually takes all aspects into consideration. Seems like a good surgeon, right?

Nope, he makes the crappiest hairlines, just check out some Youtube vloggers like Matt Dominance or HairWolf who had their HT with Balwi. 

1 hour ago, ladiesmonkey said:

Thank you very much. I’ve just contacted these 2 to start consultations. I’ll let you know how I get on.

I’ll post photos and keep the site updated in due course too.

Interesting. Great they’re both in the UK. A few years ago, it seemed the UK wasn’t really recommended.

Let us know, please. With the Maitland Clinic it takes up to 4 weeks for a video consultation, and possibly more for a subsequent personal consultation with Dr. Ball. No idea how long before surgery, but I'm guessing their waiting list is really long. 

I'm having my video consultation with David Anderson on the 19th, will let you know how it went if you're interested.

The Maitland Clinic also offers non shaven FUE (I believe the donor area still needs to be fully shaven as opposed to the patchy donor shaving Lupanzula or Mwamba does), however this is limited to smaller cases (I believe up to 1500 grafts). They are arguably the best in the UK, the results are just astonishing. 

1 minute ago, Suede said:

It is not even close to 1000-1500 at all. 

You're right, I've been far too generous, looks really low after a thorough investigation.

10 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

I would so some research on AEK. Was on my list for a while but I soon changed my mind after trawling the net and this forum. 

I saw a few negative reviews, but what concerns me more about him is the lack of any outstanding results. I guess I'll look more into him, thanks!

19 minutes ago, MachoVato said:

All those clinics could do 2,000 grafts for under 5500 Eur. And all could correct and improve your hairline. I think your issue is travel and time. Portugal and Cyprus are closed, I believe. Turkey is open to medical tourism. The question is if any of those clinics can get you in soon enough.

 

Thanks!

AEK maybe? I know he's an IAHRS member, and he's well affordable.

23 minutes ago, Doron Harati said:

I estimated you need 1000-1500 grafts for the hairline, the only issue if we have enough space to do the zigzags under the hairline without hurting any grafts, but for that I send to send photos to our clinic with a meter\ruler measure your original hairline down to the eyebrows 

Thanks, Doron!

I've just sent an email to your clinic. 

Also, do you guys do unshaven/partial shaven FUE?

9 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

You should give @Doron Haratia message as he’s a rep for HDC? Very responsive 👌

Oh, okay, will do, cheers for that.

That is nowhere near 3000 grafts, more like around 1000-1500. Are you sure the quantity was not expressed in the amount of hairs? Some clinics can be misleading, and it turns out they mean 3000-4000 hairs instead of grafts. 

4 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

I am waiting for Eugenix since I need BHT next. I’m in no rush having already had x5 hts 😂

You however have lots of hair and just need a skilled Dr to enhance whats already been done. 

You'll be in good hands at Eugenix. If only they weren't so far away.. But since time is not essential in your case, I guess you're right to wait it out.

2 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

Yes If your looking to get it done soon then your other options are better. I’m going to wait it out before any travelling. 
Have you consulted with any clinics yet? 

I'm having a video consultation with David Anderson from the Maitland Clinic in 2 weeks, however I fear It would take forever to have a HT booked given how reputable the clinic is. If they estimate 1000 grafts would be enough, I'd more than happy to pay £5000 to the Maitland Clinic. I've not contacted any other clinics yet.

Who's on your shortlist and when do you expect to have your procedure done?

9 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

How about HDC ? @Doron Harati or Eugenix.? 

HDC seems like a good choice, yes. Eugenix on the other hand is in India, and one of my colleagues got stuck there because of Covid-19, so I'd rather not risk it.