baldbandito

Hey mate,

I didn’t fly from USA but here is my experience. 
 

1. medical visa, it took less than 48 hours to hit my inbox,cost was $80 USD or so. You could probably enter on a tourist visa if you wanted to save money.

2. The hotel and this was arranged by Eugenix. I brought a SIM card with a data pack at the airport (Airtel) and rung the driver via WhatsApp to determine his location. You will be swarmed by taxibros upon leaving the airport so please be extra sure you find the right guy or you will be ripped off. Classic scam in these countries.  

3. I stayed for 7 nights so the clinic could undertake the first head wash.

During this time i  literally did nothing but chill, eat and watch movies in the hotel. It was hella boring but I didn’t want to risk the grafts getting damaged an don’t regret it. 
 

good luck and feel free to send me a PM if you have any  further questions  

There is always hope! Oral min won’t bring back your temples but  surgery will. However, as you’re only 24 I would not, under any circumstances, recommend surgery. And please avoid PRP as commented above - total scam in my opinion. 

15 hours ago, Alfred said:

What is the reason ?

Not taking medication.
However everyone’s circumstances are different. If you’re a young person getting a HT then I’ll say medication is essential. If you’re older with a stable / established hair loss pattern you potentially can get away with not taking  it. 

Hang in there my man! You’re  2 months post surgery- pimples/ shock loss  /discomfort is totally normal. Give your hair time to recover and trust the process. Please don’t obsess- you’ll be looking amazing in 1 year. Trust me. Peace. 

Strong disagree! Me and my flatmate buzzed our hair in 2020 over the Covid lockdowns. It took my mate 3 months to achieve density and me 5 months. This is what makes hair restoration such a tricky business. everyone has different genetics. hair loss / growth is unpredictable. Some grow hair fast and lose it fast. others, such as myself, are glow growers. Search the forum -  you’ll find men who who look amazing at  6 months but then lose it all at 2 years for whatever reason (we all know the reason..) and others that look sketchY at 6 months but achieve density at 1 year, and hold it. This forum wouldn’t exist if hair loss / restoration was predictable and followed a uniform timeline. Best wishes and good luck. 

When I was in a relationship last year I took my usual dose of fin (1.25mg EOD) with 5mg cialis/ tadalifil daily. No sides. Without the cialis I feel I could only get 80% hard compared to 150% with the med 

good luck. 

Bro just own it! Before my surgery I was panicking more about this than the actual procedure, literally looking for any and all excuses to give people if they asked my why my head was shaved /red.  Ended up front footing it and telling my colleagues I had a HT -  everyone was so supportive, kind and curious. We need to end the stigma - its 2022! Good luck  

Can we see some photos and are you on medication? +1 for Eugenix. 

Good luck man! Looking forward to following your journey.

Top work as always p’kongkiat! 

Give it time and trust the process! Don’t obsess. I legit thought my hair was in a worst state at 6 months after starting fin and considered quitting. After one year I  reassessed my initial photos and found I had improved on baseline. Now I’m at 3 years and I’ve maintained and even regrown some hair in the crown .. I still shed a decent amount of hair in the shower. But so does my girlfriend and she’s not losing her hair! Play the long game and enjoy your life

yip-  that will be fine! I travelled to India in July without knowing about the air suvidha requirement. Ignorance on my part but as I had already submitted all my personal deets including vax info applying for the medical visa i didn’t think anything else was required. Found out at the airport so submitted the form online via my phone  1 hour before boarding the flight. Arrived in Delhi- immigration stamped my passport and let me through.

Edit the proof of vax I submitted was just a screenshot of an email received from my govts health department… 

I used VISA - no issue. Could have saved $100 ish if I had converted cash but didn’t feel comfortable travelling with such a large sum so was happy to pay for the convenience. I’ve heard WISE.com offer the best FX rates if you were considering a  wire transfer

6 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

You have got a mass of hair Ben! Now just follow the post instructions and put remove every mirror in the house for six months! 😉 All the best and thanks for sharing!

Thanks Adrian! 
my plan is to buzz it down in a few weeks. In hindsight, I should have bit the bullet and gone for the full shave. Not to worry

Hello everyone,

Photos/ update 25 days post op.

Currently shedding a lot of the recipient hair, as anticipated (is there any way to fast forward time?!! Hehe) 

If you have any questions about surgery / clinic / India  - please fire away or send me a DM. 
 
shout out to the staff at  Eugenix! What everyone says - it’s true. Everyone was so damn professional, kind and accomodating.

 Now time to battle through the ’ugly ducking phase’ agh. 

Cheers, 

Thanks for sharing. Yep- super common! Let the regrown begin. Looking forward to following your progress.

Thanks for sharing and happy  growing bro! PS did I spot you at the Ekkamai BTS Friday around 5pm? If not you, another dude who had a non-shave FUE hah

7 minutes ago, Eugenix Hair Sciences said:

Thank you for your post. We wish you the best for your journey ahead.

Thanks team see you soon  

Thanks Gary!
I’m actually not sure but will be guided by the clinic. I’m wanting to keep it conservative as 1 it’s my first transplant 2 I’ve had a high hairline since birth and 3 I’ve always worn my hair long with a fringe. 

Hello friends, 

I will be having a HT at Eugenix Delhi on 8 July 2022. My surgery was originally scheduled for June 2020, but C19.... The clinic has estimated 2,800 grafts. 

I have been taking generic finasteride 1.25mg p/d since October 2019 and have included pics from the day I started taking the medication +  latest pics taken today (sorry for the low res..) I'm fairly certain the medication has at the very least maintained / slowed the progression of my MPB. 

I will update the thread again next month and look forward to sharing my journey with you all.

Thanks to everyone in the community - I have been a "lurker" for a couple of years now and have learned so much!

Cheers, Ben

I have your exact hairline and have been quoted between 2500-2800 to fill in the temples, but not lower the hairline. How old are you?

Go well @Gatsby! was nice to hear you on the bald truth last weekend.  

Once New Zealand opens up to the world I will be rescheduling my surgery with Eugenix which was suppose to take place in June of 2020. 

Does anyone know how long they're booked out for these days? I have seen some good results from Dr Laorwong of Thiland who is featured on this forum and kindly met me virtually for an online consultation last year - might consider him if India are still on the banned travel list next year.... Time will tell. 

Luckily 2 years of Fin has halted my loss so I'm not feeling as desperate as I was in 2019 when I began my research. I look forward to sharing my journey soon. Cheers.

8 hours ago, JDEE0 said:

Sorry man, I of course don't get any joy out of making you feel down. I think we all here know how depressing losing hair can be, but it's in your best interests to see the objective reality of things.

I of course cannot see into the future, so I have no idea of where you will end up, but take a look at the second picture you posted... If you're honest with yourself, I think you'll come to the same conclusion that you're already showing a clearly evident pattern of a higher NW. Which, if we're being blunt again, really means that you should be classed as such already, yes you're not technically there yet, but it's clear to see where things are going; that miniaturised hair is only going to continue to do exactly that. 

The good news is that some of that hair on the top of your scalp still looks relatively healthy and terminal, and you could potentially see some re-growth or increase in density with meds. The bad news is that you've self-admittedly confessed that you're terrified and are even frequent PFS forums/groups without ever having touched the drug...

I don't even think I would recommend you trying finasteride until you get a more balanced view of reality. You've hung around in echo chambers where you've convinced yourself that you're going to suffer irreversible side effects as a result of taking the drug, which is just nonsense and is in no way backed up by science. I would usually recommend people to take it and if they truly feel they are getting some sides, then discontinue. No problem, everything will go back to normal upon cessation. But I feel as though you would just nocebo yourself into a bad state. 

To be honest, I would make a start by getting away from any forums that aren't purely knowledge/information based such as this one, most are no good for your mental state. Then, instead of reading anecdote after anecdote about how fin somehow is responsible for everything bad in these peoples lives, go and read the actual long term clinical studies that are backed up by science, have placebo control groups etc... you'll be able to see how things actually are in reality, what side effects actually came up in a sample size of thousands of men, how severe they were, whether they had to discontinue and also how similar experiences of the placebo groups were.

Finasteride can of course have side effects, I don't think any rational person would ever dispute this. It's going to change your hormonal profile to some extent; test levels, estrogen levels etc will change somewhat, there are probably very small alterations to neurosteroid levels etc etc. But, generally speaking, the changes these make to the vast majority of users will be so subtle that they have no noticeable effect. Hence why actual studies show incidence of side effects to be pretty low, and generally similar to placebo. 

In any case, the point is that you stop taking the drug, the 5a-r enzyme commences to be produced at normal levels, T will convert into DHT at a normal rate again and you'll go back to normal. It's not perfect, but it's the best we've got for now. This is why I hate people who fearmonger and say don't try fin, it's so dangerous etc. Yes, it's possible to get sides with it if you're unlucky. So what? If this happens, just stop and you'll be fine. I don't really understand what the big risk is, this completely irrational narrative that trying it is like playing Russian roulette has been created by very obscure/underground groups of people with a confirmation bias online, when in reality, hundreds of millions of men have taken Finasteride or Dutasteride over the course of a number of decades at this point.

Just start looking objectively at facts from properly controlled scientific studies with no agenda, rather than anecdotal evidence from online forum posters. 

I don't understand why fin would affect your sports performance in any way, no. Also, tresses is an awful place for the most part.

I'm not saying you definitely do have retrograde, I'm just saying from that last picture it looks like you might to my eyes at least; I can see a difference in density unless its just the angle you took the pic at. You need to have your scalp looked at by a competent dr.

To answer your question of can you go ahead without, of course you could. but you're most definitely going to lose the rest of the hair on the top of your scalp in my opinion as it's already miniaturised/diffusely thinned pretty severely, why would it just stop? Beyond that, I don't know, maybe your sides and crown would never drop into a NW6/7 and a NW5 or so is your final pattern, but I have no way of knowing. I assume you're fairly young and probably have 50+ years of life left to live. They very well might do, that's a long time (granted I think there will be a large number of additional treatments way way before 50 years passes, and probably a cure by that point, but for now you have to assume that what we have now is all we will have to be safe).

It's just so naive to say ah I'll get it done and do nothing to prevent further loss, especially when you're experiencing hair loss severely like yourself, you'll probably run out of donor hair and have to chase hair transplants for the next 10 or 15 years until you do. 

 

Thanks for taking the time to write this.

You look younger than 41 mate! Have you throught about sprinkling oncealer on the crown while it's thickening up? Thanks for sharing