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    29 minutes ago, Portugal25 said:

    @rf_ht_2019 you were given great advice and I’m happy to see you went from Turkish hairmills to the best in the world for FUT. Looking forward to hearing about your diagnosis with Feriduni and Hattingen. 

    Thanks @Portugal25   Yes the advice has been great!! - I feel like I have learned so much from you guys in just a few days. 

    Im going to spend time doing further research before booking any consultations but I will keep you updated for sure.

    Good luck with your hair transplant; which is looking great so far. I will be following along :)

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    13 hours ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    I am of course. I have had an amazing result and it looks great but I, like most people, would prefer to lower it slightly so it slightly rounded when shaved right down. It is conservative, but it is conservative because I won't take meds so I need to keep the grafts in the bank, just in case. It is called "hair greed". It is when you have a great first op and you are looking for your second, everybody wants a lower hairline. I even set up a post asking about it but I won't be lowering it this time round, if at all. I decided last night.

    You're doing the sensible thing - I think thats the approach I will reluctantly take too. 

    Thanks again!

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    2 hours ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    No problem! The short answer is 3000, I think. The long answer is that Feriduni estmated my donor to have 7500 and he spent a good amount of time doing calculations and working out different scenarios etc. to see what density in my donor would be after in different areas of my head. I repeat: his reputation as an ethical doctor is in the God-like tier. I have had 4390 or whatever it was, if I have 3000 now that takes me to 7390 and then I can have 100-120 put into the scar taking me to 7500. However, the reason I went with Hattingen is that 1) Feriduni wouldn't do FUT on me and wanted to do FUE but I had decided on FUT by that point because I don't take meds and also because, conversely, there is less of an issue with scarring with FUT. Also although I liked the hairline he drew, the wanted to raise the hairline and I wanted it to start from where my forelock/tuft is on my pics, sacrificing the hairline shape if need be but he wouldn't budge and 2) Feriduni told me honestly about what he thought about some other clinics I was considering and he couldn't speak highly enough of Hattingen.

     

    Why wouldn't Feriduni do FUT?

     

    2 hours ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    3000 but I may get a small, 3rd 1000-1500 procedure done in the future on my hairline, depending on the outcome of my consultations.

    Are you not happy with your new hairline?

     

    2 hours ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    The controversy surrounding the meds is growing in Europe more and more and I think there may even be a ban on them. The positive effects don't last forever either so what will you do then? Start taking even more unproven meds to keep up the positive effects on your hair? Not worth the risk in my opinion. They are powerful medicine and affect the endocrine system which testosterone is an important constituent part of in the male physiology, besides the obvious trousers department issues. There are no long term studies on the effects of the medication either. I also don't want to be a "slave" to meds - constantly having to worry about if I have enough and where I would source more from. I told all doctors I would not take them and some were not happy about it but c'est la vie. Feriduni agrees with me and said it was refreshing somebody had done research on it. He advised me to look up "post-finasteride syndrome" which is still being studied to understand completely. Sever asked me, I said no and mentioned the studies etc. and he agreed with me. When I went back a couple of weeks later for my staples to be taken out, he had done some research and spoken to a couple of his patients (top guy) and mentioned topical finasteride and that they had had good results from it. I still didn't want to take the risk and he accepted it (but I appreciated the effort).

    Yeah I agree with a lot you have mentioned re meds. 

    I had never heard of post-finasteride syndrome but I just read about it online... its fair to say, I won't use finasteride ever again, its just not worth the risk.

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    1 hour ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    You will need about 6000 grafts/FUs. Each graft is like the "root" that then has hairs coming off it. Some grafts have 1 hair, some 2, some 3, some 4 and in rare cases you may get ones with 5s. The 1s are used in the hairline and the rest are used to give density elsewhere. You can tell a cheap HT when the patient has multi-hair grafts in the hairline. It looks like a solid wall you are met with when looking at their face. 

    I am guessing you asked this question because of the price - yes, the price probably surprised you as you had previously been checking out Turkish clinics. You get what you pay for though. Also, although Hattingen does do procedures of up to 6,000 grafts, you would need very good laxity for that size. This is why I went with 4,500 and now need to go back for a second. It would have been cheaper per graft to do it one go but he said my laxity wouldn't let him go above 4,500. 

    ...also can I ask why you don't use any meds like Propecia? were you advised against this?

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    1 hour ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    You will need about 6000 grafts/FUs. Each graft is like the "root" that then has hairs coming off it. Some grafts have 1 hair, some 2, some 3, some 4 and in rare cases you may get ones with 5s. The 1s are used in the hairline and the rest are used to give density elsewhere. You can tell a cheap HT when the patient has multi-hair grafts in the hairline. It looks like a solid wall you are met with when looking at their face. 

    I am guessing you asked this question because of the price - yes, the price probably surprised you as you had previously been checking out Turkish clinics. You get what you pay for though. Also, although Hattingen does do procedures of up to 6,000 grafts, you would need very good laxity for that size. This is why I went with 4,500 and now need to go back for a second. It would have been cheaper per graft to do it one go but he said my laxity wouldn't let him go above 4,500. 

    Thanks for the info re grafts, thats really helpful!

    Yes, there is a big difference on price but like you say, you get what you pay for. So, you are going back for a second op - can I ask how many more grafts you will need? 

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    14 minutes ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    Go for the two we have mentioned to you! There is no obligation to go with them afterwards for the actual surgery. Their results are world class, they offer both procedure types and, the most important thing, they are very, very ethical. I made two trips. One to Belgium and visited about 4-5 clinics there, including Feriduni and another trip to Switzerland for Hattingen. If you are in doubt about those two because you are worried they may tell you FUT is the best option and you are scared of the scar, check out my scar on this link and also look at Conan's thread who is having repair work done at Hattingen too because of previous work by lesser clinics ruining his head. Learn from him. His scar from Hattingen is amazing too, they always are. There is also a repair job that has been posted, also FUT, by Feriduni on here the scar and work are amazing. 

     

    This is probably a stupid question but if I need approximately 6000 grafts, would that be FU or number of hairs? http://www.hattingenhair.com/en/hair-transplant-prices/prices/

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    6 minutes ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    Go for the two we have mentioned to you! There is no obligation to go with them afterwards for the actual surgery. Their results are world class, they offer both procedure types and, the most important thing, they are very, very ethical. I made two trips. One to Belgium and visited about 4-5 clinics there, including Feriduni and another trip to Switzerland for Hattingen. If you are in doubt about those two because you are worried they may tell you FUT is the best option and you are scared of the scar, check out my scar on this link and also look at Conan's thread who is having repair work done at Hattingen too because of previous work by lesser clinics ruining his head. Learn from him. His scar from Hattingen is amazing too, they always are. There is also a repair job that has been posted, also FUT, by Feriduni on here the scar and work are amazing. 

     

    Wow! your results are amazing!

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    42 minutes ago, Portugal25 said:

    I had FUT with Rahal in 2008 and my scar is not noticeable unless I shave with a number 2 shaver. 

    You have a lot of cm2 to cover I would say around 160cm2. If you start with FUT and then have FUE you will maximize your limited donor area.

    I would recommend using the most out your FUT donor area and then moving to FUE+BHT.

    I look forward to hearing about the diagnosis you will receive but I’m sure you are looking at more than 6000 grafts divided into two surgeries.

    Thats not so bad. If I use a number 3 shaver to hide the scar then I'm fine with that.

    I'll be sure to update when I have had consultations with the doctors. Thanks again!

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    3 minutes ago, TrixGlendevon said:

    Again, I agree with @Portugal25 - you need a lot of grafts and you need to think about this carefully. Do not go to Turkey. You are latching onto any Turkish clinic because of price and that is the worst reason to choose a clinic. Save up more money and get this done properly. You need to go to a clinic with a world class reputation for quality and ethics that does both FUT and FUE and get their opinion with an in person consultation. You can't afford to get this wrong as you need so many grafts and have a finite donor.

    As you are in Europe, contact Feriduni's clinic and Hattingen Hair (Muresanu). They offer both procedures, are both ethical and are world class clinics. I had consultations with them both. Feriduni's was the best consultation I had (but you pay for it - 120 euros+/-) and I went with Hattingen Hair for my procedure. I went with FUT and you can't see the scar. If you think FUE doesn't leave scars, you are wrong. All surgery leaves scars and you need a lot of grafts so you will have a lot of scars.

    Yeah exactly, you are right! Its such an important decision and one which I can't afford to get wrong.

    I'm going to spend time researching the doctors and pick 2 or 3 to go for an in-person consultation. :)

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    10 minutes ago, Portugal25 said:

    @rf_ht_2019 you are looking at around 6000 grafts to get a decent density.

    You should consider FUT and I advise you to request a diagnosis to Feriduni, Muresanu, H&W and Rahal. 

    If you are dead set on FUE your only option would be Eugenix as they are considered the best in the world for FUE mega sessions.

    Thanks very much for all the info.

    Really appreciate the advice and recommendations you have provided. 

    Would you recommend FUT or FUE considering I would need 6000 grafts? I understand FUT has a higher success rate but I do worry about the scar

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    19 hours ago, Portugal25 said:

    @rf_ht_2019 also look into @Dr. Bruno Ferreira and check @Rolandas thread on his results with doctor. He works in Madrid with Dr Lorenzo (one of the best in the world) but also has in clinic in Porto where he charges half price (2.5€/graft) doing 1 patient per day with DHI using Lion Implantor pens. 

    Thanks a lot, I'll check these doctors. Madrid would be very easy to travel to.

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    On 4/19/2020 at 11:48 AM, Portugal25 said:

    @rf_ht_2019 my advice is to stay clear from ASMED as they have been getting bad results, overharvesting patients and then threatening them with lawyers. 
    Cinik is a all inclusive hairmill in which your results will depend on tech team assigned to you on the day of your surgery.

    In your list Demirsoy (1.25€/graft) is the only option but if you are set on Turkey why not go to best which is HLC Ankara (2.7€graft)?

    Demirsoy only does surgery on 1 patient per day but does pre-made slits/holes and. has technicians do the implantation.

    HLC has doctors doing only 1 patient per day with a higher level surgery stick&place in which each slit is done and immediately after the graft is implanted. It’s the same technique used by Dr. Konior. 

    If you have the budget for it then go to HLC.

    Thanks for the info. :)
    Thats good to know, I'll take a look at HLC Ankara for sure - thanks for the recommendation!
    I live in Spain, so not set on Turkey. I guess I have focussed my initial research on Turkey as some of the surgeons have had great results at reasonable costs.

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    22 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

    How old are you, are you on meds? Can you provide photos? 

    Hi Melvin

    I'm 35, I started to notice my hair slowly recede around 18 years old; but I'd say over the past 5 years my hairloss has accelerated rapidly.

    In terms of meds.. Im not taking anything now but I took Propecia for around one year aged 25. Its hard to say whether I benefited from Propecia or not but I discontinued due to finances at that time.

    I'll upload some photos tomorrow evening.

    Thanks!

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