Adam87

Hello,

Posted a few months ago that i was on the waiting list for Dr Freitas and the surgery was scheduled for July 2020, that is how long the waiting list is. However, i put myself on the emergency waiting list and i have now got a date in just over one months time, so i am very excited. I will post before and after pictures of his results, but i wanted to ask probably some obvious questions to members on this forum, i would be incredibly grateful for those who can answer. 

1. How long before you can start using minoxidil after surgery?

2. When can i go back to doing exercise/ going to the gym?

3. Is there any tips/anything i should know before the surgery that people wish they knew before having a HT?

Thanks for any help. 

Adam

Hello Everyone, 

Great topic this and fits into my situation perfectly, i am on the waiting list for Mr freitas in Spain and i was to be on propecia for a year in the build up to surgery. I had been on it 8 months before i got constant ball ache at 1mg every day. I didnt really see any results on my hairline and temple area at all which is where i have been going from an NW2 towards NW3 in a few years time. I have since discontinued because it is not worth being woken up in the middle of the night with stinging ball pains that feel like shocks.

So in that sense i am more inclined to go towards Nizoral and minoxidil twice a day. What is the feedback from RU58841? - i have used this for 6 months once a day, but again didnt see a progression. It looks like i will go down the road of others on here in topping up with hairtransplants as the years go on unless something doesn't come along. 

4 hours ago, Shifty said:

I only derma Mondays and Thursdays and I do not use minox on those nights 

Much appreciated, i think over derma rolling and putting minox on your head can make your scalp flaky and irritable. I will only derm 3 times a week. 

20 hours ago, PlzRespond said:

De Freitas does some amazing work. How long did u have to wait for the procedure?

I am currently on a very long waiting list, i was told 18 months, i am 2 months into this, but i also put myself on the emergency list, so they said there is a very good chance i will be called at short notice by the end of the year. I rate him highly to, my first choice, i am a NW2 going to NW3 over time and his hairline work and temple is outstanding. 

8 hours ago, Shifty said:

my journey, everything im doing is in this thread.

 

https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/52518-growing-hair-back-the-big-3-journey/

Hi Shifty, i am very happy for your story, the results are fantastic, i was on fin for 8 months and didnt get those results, some respond some dont, but more importantly, the side and ball ache was too much for me to put up with, i will stick with RU58841 mixed with minoxidil, derma rollar and nizoral 2% for 6 months and see how i go. I also take biotin. I derma roller every day for the minoxidil, due think this is needed, or would you recommend putting it on after showering?

2 hours ago, LaserCap said:

Unfortunately Propecia, Rogaine, PRP and laser are the only FDA approved/released meds to help with retention and enhancement of native hair.  The mechanism of action is different for each and thus, there is synergism when used simultaneously.  When Merck's patent expired, doctors started writing scripts for 5mg Propecia and asking patients to quarter the pill.  There is documented fact that there is a very small percentage of side effects.  With Dutesteride, if you are doing 5mg, you are increasing the potential of side effects by 5 fold.  Hopefully you are quartering the pill as well?  Perhaps taking the med every other day could help.

 

 

I agree, i think 5mg DUT is very aggressive, i got sides by taking DUT for just a month and will never take it again, i do not believe the side effect percentage, i think its far more than people believe but less than 50%, i have seen far to many people complaining over the years for it to be just 15% of patients or under. 

4 hours ago, spex said:

Same you are not able to take finasteride as this is the main weapon against progressive hair loss. I was on it 17 years then moved up to Dutasterdie. You could look into LLLT or PRP to help keep the wolves at the door. I endorse Hair Restore Labs shampoo which is another option to help too against DHT . 

Regards

Spex

Hi Spex, thanks for the response, i am currently using nizoral 2%. I will look in your shampoo,  i am not really interested in regrowing hair right now, anything to slow the process down or maintain will be great. I was about to say, the sides i got from taking DUT for a week were horrible, i couldnt sleep, terrible headaches, i honestly wouldnt alow my body to touch DUT but i can understand if it works for someone else. I never got ball ache before, but it doesnt seem to be going away for me sadly. 

Hello, 

I am due to have a hair transplant with Dr freitas at the end of the year and i had been on propecia for 9 months until i started getting horrible ball ache pains which used to wake me up from my sleep. Most transplant companies always ask you to take propecia but i have resorted to RU58841/minoxidil and derma rolling. I just wanted to know what other people are taking or doing in combination and if they had to drop any medication due to side effects?

Thanks

Adam 

17 hours ago, BjornBorg said:

Yeah, that is the price I got too. I couldn't believe it when I was there for consultation. They could easily charge a lot more if you look at their reputation.

I booked my procedure for September of 2020. I had the same mentality as you, I would rather wait than go with a third or fourth choice.

Hello!

I just booked mine as well for June 2020 but i also asked to be put on short notice waiting list, so hopefully i will get called before the end of the year. It is a long time to wait. Like yourself, very impressed by the research i have seen and their reputation. Its funny how asmed only has a 4 month waiting list compared....

I was very surprised with the price, compared to what some people are charging in the UK for example, which is almost double with less of a reputation.

6 minutes ago, Fozzie said:

Ah yes, so it's 4500 euros for 1400 grafts. Think the clinic charges 3.5 Euros for the first 1000 grafts and then 2.5 Euros for any grafts after that. Seen some very impressive results from Dr De Freitas, although granted a lot of them have been mainly spanish patients with good donor characteristics but still doesn't take anything away from the work which has looked very good.

Thanks for the feedback, i wanted value for money and even if i had to travel for the right surgeon, i am from the UK. His results on the hairline and temples is very good. Hopefully i can have a positive result. I have dark thick hair, so hopefully that might help. 

I will post the results on here. Thanks for the feedback. 

1 hour ago, hairman22 said:

price is good.

 

Freitas is a very good surgeon.

 

when is your apointment?

I haven't received one yet, i just have agreed to go on the waiting list, waiting list is 12 months apparently, but they can call you sooner if you are flexible with time. 

47 minutes ago, Fozzie said:

Just to be clear, thats 4500 euros for 2800 hairs, not 2800 grafts?

Hi Fozzie, this is what they said below....

The surgery strategy consists on repopulating the frontal and   and the receding line with the extraction of 1.400 hair follicles (2.800 hairs approximately) in one day of procedure.

Hello everyone....

Dr Freitas is my top choice, despite the waiting list, asmed are a close second. I was just received a quote of 2800 hairs for 4,500 euros. I was expecting the quote to be more, some people in london for example (where i am from) are quoting twice this price for the same hair amount.

Could anyone give me any guidance for prices etc. Sorry i am new to this. I do rate Dr Freitas work highly. 

Thanks for any help. Good luck all

Adam 

On 1/3/2019 at 6:16 PM, John Baris said:

I think you shouldn't do anything about your hair, because your hair loss will progress in time anyway. If you get hair transplants now, after a couple of years you will need a second operation. And probably, a third one will follow. If you do it now, you are going to get 2000 grafts operation. And after a few years, you will get another 2000-3000. And then, if your hair loss gets to Norwood 6-7, you will another 2,000-3,000 and you won't have enough implants for the surgery. You will end up looking bad because you won't have hair at the back of your head and that means you will have to shave your head. All the time and money you spent will be wasted. I see so many cases where patients don't care about this information, do it anyways and after years they say, you were right, Me being right can't fix it, but it can help you. Here is the article I explained it in detail and I hope it can help you.

I agree with your way of thinking, that is why i am desperately trying to halt the hairloss, i doubt i will get any regrowth from he current medication, i just want to halt everything, i am only into month 5 of propecia, monoxidil and RU55841. So i am hoping by 12 months i iwll see a halt to it permanently, but we will see. Otherwise i might have to lose some more before i can get one, which is not my first choice but i understand the issue behind it. Thanks for the information and your opinion. I do not know how the medication works for others...have many people being successful at halting hairloss with medication?

On 1/3/2019 at 2:37 PM, Pete-from-Farjo said:

If you think that's stressful, try being a life-long Leeds Utd fan. I'm surprised I've got any hair left after the last fifteen years

Adam87, as most have already said, your hair looks great and is the envy of most people on here. You don't need a transplant at this point.

Haha, yes, the three most admired fans i respect in the country are Everton, Newcastle and Leeds. There is loyalty and then there are these fans. I look forward to the day when Leeds take their rightful place back in the premier league, hopefully it will be this season. I am not too stressed about fulham, we probably are a championship club in terms of size, its more sadness that stress, we have brought terribly and there are big issues behind the scenes which have caused our downfall, but going up at wembley last season and being there will never be topped. 

Thanks for your opinion, the only way i will get a transplant soon is if i can stop the hairloss in its track. I am currently on 1mg of propecia a day, 5% RU58841 once a day with minoxidil. I am in month 5 of this routine now, i am hoping by the summer of this year i will see some progress. But i agree with the statement below that if you cannot stop you hairloss you will look silly, as it will continue further back. 

On 12/31/2018 at 1:20 PM, Shera said:

If you wish to stay within Europe and the surrounding areas then Asmed is always a good option.

Check out the link below for recommended surgeons.

https://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/Consult-a-Physician/hair-loss-doctors.asp

Thanks for the link, i am from the UK - London to be exact, but have always like the look of asmed. I wish there was someone with their quality in the UK. 

On 12/31/2018 at 1:44 PM, VicTNYC said:

Hey man,

Your hair looks great for your age, if I were in your shoes I wouldn’t go for any procedure just yet (wait a few years to see how thinning has progressed if any), I’d stick to the medication and shampoo for at least another 6-months see how you improve, I’d also not tie up my hair in pony tails or man buns given that it is possible for hair loss from traction or tightness.

 

Thanks for the advice, i actually do not tie my hair up with any bun, it shows off the hairline/ high temple loss and its not a good look, i only did this as you can truly see my hairline in this style, i will stick with the meds for another few months and see what happens. Thanks. 

On 12/27/2018 at 10:38 PM, 1978matt said:

Definitely not bad enough to warrant having surgery.  What you have is effectively what patients dream to have as a result.

Just put the money away and reassess at age 35.

Thank you for your advice, which surgeons in europe for the future would you recommend i check out, i just want to keep a list. 

On 12/27/2018 at 10:29 PM, Shera said:

Hi Adam,

You don't need a hair transplant and as mentioned earlier you will likely regret having one with your hair currently in such great shape.

Carry on with the meds by all means, but try to forget about any balding issues, you have nothing to be concerned about.

Thank you for the response, in the years to come would you recommend asmed as a solid choice to start from? Mnay thanks

5 hours ago, forgotpassword said:

not to sound like an ass but maybe start supporting Liverpool instead of Fulham  those relegation battles can cause hair loss 

Yes, it is proving a stressful time, but i dont think its all doom and gloom just yet, its 3 of 5 to go down. 

Regarding asmed, is their reputation justified? I know their will be bad results for every clinic that are out of surgeons hands, but is asmed a solid choice to consider in the future? 

Many thanks and i hope liverpool do win the league this year. 

Yes, it is proving a stressful time, but i dont think its all doom and gloom just yet, its 3 of 5 to go down. 

Regarding asmed, is their reputation justified? I know their will be bad results for every clinic that are out of surgeons hands, but is asmed a solid choice to consider in the future? 

Many thanks and i hope liverpool do win the league this year. 

Hello everyone, thanks for your opinions and the advice. 

3 hours ago, BeHappy said:

Your hair looks fine. Everyone's hair looks thinner when wet. A hair transplant is not going to change that. There have been too many posters on here who had decent hair and get 2000 to 3000 grafts to fill in the corners and then complain that the transplant looks unnatural, the individual hairs are too thick and coarse, and it still looks thin when it's wet anyway. Then they want to "fix" it so they can go back to what they had. Don't be one of those people.

 

 

I do agree with this to an extent, i think some people want that perfect hairline that you can tell doesn't suit their face and doesn't look natural. I wont make that mistake if i eventually do get a transplant, i will not be tempted into further down means better. I will show you a better picture on the side that is alot worse than the other without the wetness. 

It is cutting back quite a bit in my temple region, that hair is thinning or shedding currently. I i will give all the medications another 6 months, as i know they can take quite a while to work for many people, sometimes even longer than a year. 

52 minutes ago, forgotpassword said:

Wet hair doesn't flatter many of us. However even when wet, your hair looks great. If you want to send some pics of dry hair for a better opinion go for it however based on these and at 31 years old I'd be delighted. Advice: go enjoy life and get off these sites!!

Just put some pictures up. Might be able to see the hairloss in the temples better, once that weak hair that has been combed down sheds, then i might do something. 

Hello,

Long story, started losing my hair on my hairline and temples when i was 19, i am now 31. I have been on propecia (1mg), nizoral 2% and RU58441 for 5 months now. I am looking to restore my temples and hairline, i would like any advice on potential surgeons that have a good record in this area. I am from the UK - so looking in Europe.

Pictures below are with wet hair, trying to get a picture of where i am. 

Thank you for any help or advice, 

Adam