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3 hours ago, petefromgreece said:

If this is a legit entry, I feel bad for you.  Not only did you lose a ton of grafts in an unsuccessful procedure, people are being hard on you.  My advice, stay positive.....hold tight for another 6 months then evaluate things. If you have the funds and time be sure to go to an elite surgeon. Don’t waste anymore grafts with other drs!

I really really don't want to do another surgeon 

and I was lead to believe Keller is elite. Look at peoples responses to him on here, baldtruthtalk and hairlosstalk. Everybody says he is a great doctor

3 hours ago, Panamera13 said:

The pic you posted post-op is not really post-op; no redness, no grafts but anyway, now we know you won't post it. Keller must have pics of you post op...ask him.

I don't think you're legit but if you are - hang in there; stress leads to more problems so don't stress....crown is difficult area and takes time.

As of now just wait and watch for another 6 months and don't open new thread every week or month. After 6 months, if still no result, come back and discuss with this forum...Hasson/Wong might be able to do something with the donor you have left.

is there any chance I don't see a significant improvement in next 6 months?

even keller's worst surgery here was a 10 times more significant result than mine. Keller said he generally gets about a 90 to 98% yield on his grafts. Even a 60% yield for me would make a huge difference because of my incredibly thick donor area

2 hours ago, JeanLDD said:

It is post-op, you can clearly see the red blotches where the grafts are even though the photo is horrible. In my opinion judging by the photo and another of Keller's cases, he is stating a larger number of grafts than he is actually doing in reality, or is mixing up hairs and grafts. Simply doesn't look anywhere close to the numbers he is stating.

keep in mind i have diffuse loss so he put a lot of grafts in between native hairs but I easily believe the 4K grafts. He took a big strip and my density on sides is insane

43 minutes ago, densedream said:

My crown was like yours and also had thick donor.  After 6K grafts.. still some see through parts.  The crown is known as the blackhole for a reason,.

really? Can you post pre and after pics?

This dude was way more bald than me and he looks like a thick NW1.5 now with about same amount of grafts

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that dude has 10/10 donor and hair traits but I would say I do too so why am I not getting results similar to that?

You can see in the original pics - my hair is every bit as thick as that and my donor density is absolutely supreme. I run my hands through my sides and it's like running my hand through the thickest rug you've ever felt in your life.

found a pic

29 minutes ago, Kiwi Guy said:

You literally just did what I said you would, you're a troll buddy, good luck with that. The fact you don't even want to contact the clinic to talk to them about your options tells me you have real issues, spent all that money but don't have the balls to contact someone you consider a "nice nice man". This is a troll. Grow up.

Hopeless.

I've talked to the clinic

it's an hour drive. I'm just procrastinating to go see them

3 minutes ago, Kiwi Guy said:

After a quick skim over this thread I'll say this... this guy reminds me of someone who has issues with not being very bright. His base instinct is just to complain and worry but when you guys bring up his options (contacting the clinic who did the transplant, posting chronological before and after pics, etc etc etc) he literally ignores 90% of the advice and continues to complain. Stop being trolled guys.

As for you mate, stop having such female characteristics and listen to the advice you are receiving. Calm down, take a chill pill, and start understanding that a lot of the people on this forum you are talking to have vast knowledge and experience about this sort of thing. It's not our faults that you went to a surgeon that isn't considered one of the better ones. If you have the natural density you claim to have you will be lucky that this horrible result can probably be somewhat fixed by another surgeon. If you want to look at getting that done first follow up with your current surgeon, explain that it's just a terrible result and you either want a refund or some short of secondary procedure. I would feel genuinely sorry for you if it wasn't for the fact that I have yet to see you take anyone's advice in this thread. So put your big boy pants on and find a solution to the situation, there have been a few suggested in here. Stop complaining but doing nothing.

there is no real solution other than another surgery but I don't want to do that. That surgery was a bitch. I might just shave my head at this point

oh and hope and pray my results come in next 6 months...but for 6 month mark, my results are atrocious. My doctor promised me spectacular results based on my supreme donor traits and that I still have a good amount of native hair. I'm very very frustrated 

40 minutes ago, Panamera13 said:

NOT EVEN ONE PIC POST-OP from OP; Stop feeding the troll.

Not even the 13K credit card charge LOL

If he doesn't post at least one post op pic by tomorrow morning, mods should remove this thread and block this IP for good. Give proper info to get help from community, you're giving all kinds of BS info except the real one.

multiple people have seen the post op pic - i just don't have it anymore dude

Why would i make this story up? its obvious that I really like doctor keller and think he is a very nice man. Why would i attempt to destroy his reputation?

3 minutes ago, Raker said:

That was quick, were these 50 transplants posted by the patients? 

it's really hard to find results posted by patients for almost all doctors 

2 minutes ago, Raker said:

How many of his results have you looked at that were posted by the patient? Not Keller. Keller’s postings do concern me, his ability to post misleading/subpar results at times that go properly unchallenged & not brought to conclusion is a worry. 

I just looked up his last 50 transplants and the only ones who are mediocre are men who are heavily bald and/or have fine/thin hair

show me his poor results on people with decent hair characteristics. His results on people with thick hair are spectacular

Maybe I'm just a very late bloomer?

5 minutes ago, Raker said:

You’re delusional, Keller’s results have been less than average but you’re absolutely right he’s recommended on this website which is worrying knowing guys are looking for a recommended surgeon. His posting have been misleading to say the least. I do feel for you, moreover, you have a mountain to climb to resolve your issues. 

I've combed through all his results on men with wavy, ethnic hair and they're all excellent 

look at the one I just posted on that 60 year old near slick bald man who had total coverage with 3600 grafts

I combed through koniors results and none of them were impressive in terms of getting any real density on men who are high norwood levels or even diffuse thinning 3s. Koniors talent is quality hairlines but that doesn't matter to me because of my curly hair

for people criticizing me using keller, here are his posted results

NW6 near slick bald patient with hair not as as thick as mine and donor density not as good getting full coverage

another excellent result

39 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

How about posting your before pictures, immediate post-op and then every month after that. I don’t  recall what your hair look liked, you can’t expect the community to take your word on it. In the end, you’re not even at the halfway mark yet, so the only thing you can do at this point is give it time.

the first pics in OP are 2 months after surgery. Other pics are now

1 hour ago, JeanLDD said:

You keep posting this, truth is its a photo clearly close to a decade old and it is posted by the clinic who only post their best, not posted by a patient. In terms of recent patient posted results of those in a similar situation to you, there are none.

Imo you should seriously reflect on what I'm saying rather than just constantly ignoring any and all advice given to you. You're the one who is unhappy right now despite going against what everyone else told you prior to the procedure, consider that there might be a reason for that. If its not obvious enough, its that you should have gone to an absolute top-tier surgeon to minimise risk, especially considering you had no financial issues stopping you from doing so.

When you posted on the other forum, many, many people told you specifically a set of top-tier surgeons, you ignored all of them and told them they were wrong purely based on the same two decade old results you post saying this is what you expected. I was 99% sure before you even went for surgery you'd end up in this position, if I'm to make another prediction, I think you'll end up with virtually no growth as is the case for the moment, and that you'll opt for a touch-up with the same surgeon and get an equally poor result. 

What you should have done is listened to the people with more knowledge than you who were clearly trying to help to begin with and gone with a top FUT option such as Konior or Hasson/Wong. 

keller is recommended by all the main hair transplant websites and his results, in terms of density, are far better than Konior and at least as good as hassan and wong.

Konior is better for artistic hairlines but I have curly hair so I don't give a shit about that

look at kellers last 10 posted results here. They are all excellent except for maybe 1

4 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I agree, it’s hard to gauge your results because we don’t see them in chronological order. Also, if you have a concern bring it up to your surgeon always.

what results? i don't even see anything

12 minutes ago, SBSinNYC said:

If he’s a VERY, VERY nice man, pick up the phone and call RIGHT NOW!!!!

Are you a complete idiot?

I just have to go see him but its an hour drive and I'm dreading it

7 minutes ago, Legend007 said:

Can u also post a pic of ur bank statement with the checking n routing number on it

1000 grafts on the crown is not enough .. u have a large crown area to cover .. u need at least 2000 grafts on the crown for ur situation .  so the other 3000 grafts were sprinkled all over the hairline n midscalp.. I can see how this might not be dense.. even though u have thick hair .. when the grafts are  spread out like that it won’t be as much of a cosmetic difference ..

i had 2500 grafts to my hairline alone .. n I have thick donor hair too,  to give u perspective .. 

i have a norwood 5 crown

I'll show you pics of norwood 5s who are near slick bald up top who got decent overall coverage with 4000 grafts. I'm nowhere near slick bald up top

and I have extremely thick hair and 90% of my 4000 grafts were 3s and 4s

worth mentioning that I'm very healthy, workout and don't smoke. Should have zero problems in terms of blood flow

5 minutes ago, Shifty said:

As someone who looks at bank statements all day, that can be doctored. Seems strange no pics directly after surgery. I have so many pics on my phone of my hair...why would you delete them?

I had tons and tons and tons of pics on my phone. i deleted 90% of it as it was mostly garbage

guys I've posted tons of threads about this surgery. Why would I make this up? last thing i want to do is hurt doctor keller's reputation. He is a VERY VERY nice man

3 minutes ago, Panamera13 said:

Again, you posted pic of a "gentleman" and not you. Post pics of your grafts, you might as well be a troll against keller. Now you will spend time on internet to find grafts of ppl "like you". I doubt you had a HT and that with Keller. I seriously doubt it now.

I deleted the pic off my phone

I'll post a pic of my bank statement showing the charge for 13K when I come home from work. 

16 minutes ago, Panamera13 said:

Post post-op pics and show graft placement.

Also crown is a tricky area and takes time. So you have to be patient.

doc told me he placed grafts all over - including about a 1000 grafts on the crown (around 3000-4000 hairs)

6 minutes ago, JeanLDD said:

Your problem is you NEVER listen to advice. Could see your situation from a mile away, I'm not saying it to be harsh but you should have listened to the people who recommended where you go to begin with that were clearly trying to help. 

To be honest at 6 months and with that little improvement I would be considering your future options with top surgeons like Konior or Hasson/Wong that were recommended to you previously.

I looked at all of Konior's and Keller's work and Keller's work is much MUCH better in terms of overall density on heavily balding people

Konior is only good at improving NW2 and 3s

20 minutes ago, Panamera13 said:

He creates new thread every now and then.

We don't know who is doc and/or what the doc is saying.

Most Imp: Only two pics showing baldness, zero pics showing post op pics...

Did you even have an HT? If yes, post pics right after the HT where we can see the grafts.

I posted immediate post operation pics in past. Let me see if I can find it somewhere - I don't see it on my computer

30 minutes ago, JeanLDD said:

You should have listened to the people on the other forum when they recommended top-tier surgeons like Hasson and Wong to you.

I went to Richard Keller - a very well rated doctor online

all of keller's surgeries on people with ethnic hair like mine produced 10/10 results

^^^^ that gentleman has same hair as me and is now a thick NW2

16 minutes ago, Legend007 said:

It looks like u never had a transplant .. did ur hairline grow at least ? Seemed like u netted zero gains ..just looks like ur native hair grew back .. 

I don't know what to do

I had 4000 grafts and 12 to 13K hairs transplanted, astronomical number for surgeries and my hair is around twice the thickness of white people. Literally this is like an 8000 graft 25K hair transplant for a white person and I'm seeing nothing 

49 minutes ago, Panamera13 said:

Another day; another thread on same thing. Are you going to create one every week? I think you should take a break from this forum and your hair and focus on the all the crazy hot women who are mad about you.

I'm really fighting myself to not go completely insane