Payam

8 hours ago, zz333 said:

Nice one man, very relatable to the part where you said a recided hairline with a 5 or 6 head can completely ruin a faces symmetry and with no other way of putting it make you an ugly guy... even with every other part of your face looking great its a real deal breaker. Im only 21 and it took my awhile to put the connection together that my recided hairline did not at all compliment my face. It was only once i realised the reason wearing a hat made my face look good was it hid my hairline and that made all the difference. Its an unusual thing but luckily we took the plunge as i am 1 month post op at ASMED and am right in the middle of the ugly duckling stage. Hopefully the last time ill see my balding ugly head until I'm atlest 40. Then i may be okay with shaving it off.

You will not be able to shave it off due to the white dot scarring. A HT is a life long commitment and the vast majority of patients have to go through several transplants as their hair loss progresses

50 minutes ago, baldlivesmatter said:

Fellas,

Really happy with how the recipient is looking.

Feel like a new man with a huge confidence boost. Rarely think of my hair, and never in a self-conscious manner.

Perhaps outside the scope of this forum, but now that my hair is "fixed" curious if anyone has any advice or suggestions of places to learn about 1) Social skills/dynamics/etc. 2) Fashion/Style.

I recently read The Game and Mystery Method--which were IMO a good start for number 1 (though they're more geared toward dating than general social dynamics, though helpful for both). Number 2 I'm pretty clueless, though I'm recruiting the help of some female friends to help turn my swag up.

Anyone have any suggestions?

The Game is mental masturbation for incels and people who worship Jordan Peterson.. Just be yourself bro, the truth is the easiest thing to remember after all , you seem like a pretty funny guy with a good sense of humor, why are you taking tips from some charlatan bullshit artist. 

15 hours ago, Gasthoerer said:

Just because you had poor yield, one clinic is not superior than another. There are bad results from H&W just like from any other clinic. Saying that: It is really strange how few patients cases from Baubac are published. 

Clearly some clinics have a much higher rate of shit-tier results than others, and some clinics are absolutely superior to others based on % of successful cases. Poor yield due to some x-factor is bullshit as doctors such as Pinto, Couto, Konior and Lorenzo have proven. If your transplant is bad it means your doctor failed you, period. 

Never look at the clinic published results, even your local chop shop will look good if you do. Look at patient results exclusively

19 hours ago, Sean said:

Nape, beard hair, chest hair will clearly look unnatural in hairline.  It may even shock your other hairs.   If you have eyes staring at your scalp after a so called repair with these hairs, then you know that the hair quality looks terrible.  

 

Curious about this, can you please elaborate @Sean as I know Konior uses nape hair and his results look amazing.. Why do you say nape hair looks unnatural? I am considering using nape hair for my repair, is that not a good idea?

On 7/17/2019 at 9:27 AM, Aftermath said:

There is no supposedly, they have been with them for years, I started going to them in 2007 visited multiple times up to 2015 and called in recently. 

But how should I as a prospective patient know that? Why do they have a section dedicated to their patient coordinator but not the people performing the surgery? This is what I am getting at. You might have seen them at some point but how do we know these are the same techs operating on us today and not some newbie in training? 

Threads without pictures should be locked or removed outright, completely pointless 

15 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

From what I recall they use only one or two techs for extraction. Both Hasson and Wong belong to the World FUE institute. Both have said there technicians extract grafts better than they do. I believe it, I’ve said many times; extracting grafts in my opinion is a skill, and skills can be mastered without having a degree. 

I can't find a single mention of them on the website, the closest is this:  "If you are having FUE extraction, the extractions may be performed by your surgeon working with specific technicians, or may be performed by specific technicians alone. "

Now if extractions is one of the most vital parts of the surgery, and these techs have supposedly been with them for years, then why aren't they more prominently represented anywhere? If the surgeon does 1/3rd of the surgery, it should be absolutely vital we know who does the other 2/3's? 

@Phil36fromaus  I agree mostly, however i have read about HnW patients who were surprised at the level of tech involvement, I personally was as I thought the doc had to do every step of the surgery by law in NA

This looks awful.. That is NOT shock loss, you clearly see it is stretched scar tissue, what is diep saying? I would consider konior for your scar revision, I bet he can make that scar dissappear without any hassle. 

11 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Guys,

Let's be serious here, Hasson and Wong are no where near a hair mill. They are two surgeons with two teams who perform surgery. Just because they are not one doctor, and one tech doesn't make them a hair mill. Let's not get in to a "my doctor is better than yours" debate. Back to the topic you would be hard pressed to find any negative reviews for Hasson and Wong they are absolutely elite and have been for over a decade.

Could you please elaborate? I don't think it's fair to call every tech run clinic a hair mill obviously, but what makes hasson and Wong any different from some of the Turkish clinics? Do you have any information to share about their techs level of experience and education?  

It looks amazing bro, really dense and natural looking

6 minutes ago, zach0786 said:

several years? is that the wait time for these doctors?

Nadimi has the shortest list, Konior is a bit over a year i belive, the other two are several years. 

I wouldn't go for this clinic if the surgeon isn't deeply involved in every single step of the surgery. If you have done your research you will see clearly that these types have nearly a 100% success rate, you will very rarely see a shit result from guys like Cuoto, Konior or Pinto because they are all extremely meticulous and involved in every single step of the surgery, their surgical protocol is vastly superior to the tech run clinics. 

Don't be stupid and try to save money, if it's an all or nothing type deal then the only name I would ever consider would be Konior, after that either Nadimi or Couto or Pinto if you are willing to wait several years. 

I would only consider a FUT and nothing else, the issue here is that with hairloss this aggressive at 21 you might be headed for a nw7.

I know this is not what you want to hear but, don't have a transplant now, wait until you're 30 at least to see how your hairloss has progressed and then make the decision. 

On 6/2/2019 at 11:51 AM, TimeForAction said:

4 months postop

#2 on top and #1 on sides

thanks !

You have very course hair, did he use nape hair in the front row? How do you fel about the front row density so far mate?

2 hours ago, Mooneypilot said:

Thanks Bill.  I think at 6 weeks post op (the pic I believe RameshK is referring) May be a bit premature to comment on density.....

Looks great so far mate, out of curiosity what does she charge per graft? 

Honestly looks pretty good mate, considering your entire head + temple points were implanted, how do you feel? 

That 4 month progress is great bro, I think this will be a really nice result, I really don't think you need to worry about any additional transplants for quite some time as you have zero crown loss and your entire frontal third will be set after this.

Don't know about Mohebi but Konior is probably the best you can get in terms of hairline aesthetics and graft yield, if you can afford him there is no question in my mind that you should pick Konior

On 5/14/2019 at 11:14 PM, jonnyalex said:

 

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1 hour ago, CosmoKramer said:

Yes. And all that means is that “peers” looked at the manufacturer run studies they cherry-picked to get their drugs approved.

You should read some on what a clinic trial consists of and how heavily they are regulated and monitored by the FDA and institutional review boards, it's pretty much impossible to get skewed data past these entities as you are insinuating. 

On 3/27/2019 at 7:58 AM, CosmoKramer said:

How do you know it’s just 1% effective??? Are you an expert?

I don’t know or claim to know exactly how much but I know it’s helped me and seems like others as well. I don’t know if or why doctors don’t suggest it I’m not a doctor and not trying to sell anything, and I’m not trying to convince you of anything I’m saying I don’t agree with your definitive belief of something you don’t know for sure about.

Yes, common sense tells me I, just like Luke and others might have done something right and helpful.

By the way, one could make the argument that minoxidil and Finasteride are “snake oils” as they don’t 100% work on everyone using them with 100% results, sure they help, but not for everyone.

The difference is minoxidil and finasteride both have several peer reviewed studies proving their effectiveness. 

On 5/13/2019 at 6:38 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

Thanks for keeping us updated on your progress. You still have time for improvements. Give it until 12 months. If you look at Payams last post, he improved quite a bit. Even though he was underwhelmed, his appearance changed a lot in 13 months. 

It's not really subjective though, for a certain number of grafts you expect a certain progression and result, I see nowhere near 4500 grafts in these pictures. Whether or not op will be satisfied should not stop us from objectively discuss the facts at hand correct?

10 minutes ago, xadiohead said:

It obviously looks very gappy in these pictures but the way you have your hair styled in these pictures is weird.  Do you really wear your hair like that in public?  The picture you posted on Saturday "getting out of bed" post looks better than the way you have it styled in these.  

It shows the lacking density behind the hairline, when he styles his hair it will look see through and pluggy because of this. 

1 hour ago, munich said:

Is it possible to get a refund? Not the whole sum but maybe a part of it? 

I looked at your thread and I'm sorry bro, I know how it feels, you won't get a refund though. I have not spoken with a single person who managed to get a refund, best you will get is a free touch up and hope to God they don't screw it up again, but who in their right mind would take that risk? Especially with the recent results from this clinic. You are better off posting your result, not only on this forum but your native language forum as well if you have one and start planning for a repair at a clinic with high doctor involvement.