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On 7/25/2019 at 12:26 PM, Craig2412 said:

I hope you’re happy after the touch up. Have they given you a rough estimate on grafts needed mate? 

No no estimate. They will just do whatever is necessary and appropriate 

Surgery will be 1 year post op for me. Hopefully I get better yield this time 

59 minutes ago, Craig2412 said:

I hope you’re happy after the touch up. Have they given you a rough estimate on grafts needed mate? 

Not at this time no 

2 minutes ago, Kraistoff said:

Derek

 

im not sure mate. Mine got changed too. I wasn’t told but my coordinator left, I have to chase down and send messages on here to the clinic to get another to talk to me

im not sure if it yield issues or if it wasn’t planted as dense as I would have hoped 

How many grafts did you have and what are your before and after pictures? How far along are you post op? 

3 minutes ago, Kraistoff said:

Hello mate

 

who is you coordinator ? When I’ve questioned my density I have been told to wait 13 months 

 

 

I'm not sure actually because it got changed for me who my coordinator was. Are you having yield issues as well?

Of course!

25 minutes ago, hairlossPA said:

will you be updating this thread with the second procedure results ?

4 minutes ago, Craig2412 said:

Good luck mate, was they happy to offer that to you over 8months in? 

Yeah my coordinator seems very supportive and they can see that I'm almost at 9 months and clearly I won't be at 90% yield at 12 months. So we are looking at dates right around my 12 month mark for the correction surgery. 

I've decided to take asmed up on their offer to do another surgery for free to bring me up to what would have been a 90% yield of the first surgery. I've seen other recent successes in these forums from the clinic so I know they can do good work.

Asmed does still get good results like someone who just posted their 10 month results yesterday. I'm still considering taking them up on their 90% yield warranty 

1 minute ago, xadiohead said:

You need to wait a few YEARS years before you have another surgery.   Just because a doctor says they will perform a surgery that will make you look better now doesn't mean they care what you will look like in 10 years.   It is a business and they want your money.  

A lot of surgeons do turn away potential clients when they don't think an elective procedure is reasonable or they don't need it. I saw it happen when I was at asmed and experienced it at the other first surgeon I went to 

21 minutes ago, Kraistoff said:

I’ve lost my faith in the ethics of the whole industry. I mean come one, if they were ethical would they be charging this amount for the surgery or doing it at a decent rate ? It’s all a load of bollocks. 

Even this forum won’t let you slag off a dr that pays them money. The mods won’t come out and criticise a dr when they deserve it. Perhaps a few surgeons actually care but I doubt most do. 

Well regarding the price, I think it's natural and normal to charge fair market value for anything. If supply and demand allows them to charge it then it becomes a fair exchange because of the value it provides the person getting the procedure. It can be life changing. And they studied and worked hard, it makes sense that they get compensated. Plus it's a business and has high costs to run. Also, even when I was at asmed, I saw a patient get turned away for a procedure because they didn't think he needed one during his consultation. Idk if wong would suggest to me 3000 grafts if he felt it would doom me in the future to regretting it. He said he won't lower my hairline but he will reinforce it so it's not see through basically and I would be content with that. As well as I would be content going back for as many surgeries as I need and have donor grafts for without depleting it too much throughout my adult life. And I do also put more weight into my appearance when I'm young and in my mate selection years as it is more relevant now than when I'm 50.

Also I tried finasteride for 11 months and started to notice slight sides and then I got off it and experienced bad post finasteride syndrome. I will never use it again. My weiner is important to me. 😁

24 minutes ago, Kraistoff said:

I’ve lost my faith in the ethics of the whole industry. I mean come one, if they were ethical would they be charging this amount for the surgery or doing it at a decent rate ? It’s all a load of bollocks. 

Even this forum won’t let you slag off a dr that pays them money. The mods won’t come out and criticise a dr when they deserve it. Perhaps a few surgeons actually care but I doubt most do. 

See my post below. I was editing it but my connection was messing up and I ended up commenting the same comment twice. So I'm just editing this one to refer you to the one below this.

6 hours ago, xadiohead said:

Like I've said multiple times before, it is a waste of time trying to put any sense into him.   If I recall, he doesn't take finasteride, minoxidil, or any supplements.   He began searching for new surgeons after only about 5 months.   He is under 30, had two transplants, and wants a third before he is 30.     

Well i did tell Dr wong my complete history and the number of grafts that have been used so far and he knows my age and has seen multiple pictures of my donor and all over my head. Do you think he would advise me of 3000 grafts between my hairline and vertex if he didn't think it was a good choice? I'm posting that as a real question. I feel like  most high end doctors would turn someone away if they didn't feel they would have a good benefit. He also said I have enough donor density for a 4th future procedure if need be.

On 7/7/2019 at 6:53 PM, hairlossPA said:

personally man i wouldn’t go another surgery. your hair looks good and healthy. you have a lot more of your life to use those grafts more strategically if you continue to loss hair 

Today Dr wong from H and w said he can do 3000 grafts between my hairline and vertex and that I would still have grafts leftover for a future procedure 

Official 8 months post op 

Update, I sent hasson and wong these pictures and he said he could put 2000-2500 in my hairline as is to reinforce it. I guess he increased the number of grafts cuz maybe with my hair longer my donor looks more sense than the first donor Pic I sent him. I won't be getting it done until the second half of next year so about 2 years after my erdogan procedure. Unfortunately it'll take another 16-20k dollars but hopefully 3rd time is the charm 

16 minutes ago, BjornBorg said:

Great choice. I can't imagine what two non satisfactory procedures do to you mentally. Hopefully after going to one of the elite, you shall find serenity.

No I don't like product I like the dry natural look 

5 minutes ago, hairlossPA said:

what is the drawn line indicating in your pictures? i don’t understand 

It's just as a reference point for the recipient line to know that everything above that is recipient area. It's not obvious what is recipient area and what's not because the recipient area is so thin 

22 minutes ago, CosmoKramer said:

Hi Derek,

I think for an outside sunlit photo it’s looks better at 7.5 months and I bet you’ll see more progress especially thickening over the next few months, hopefully in those areas you’ve underscored. Even at post 12-months I’m seeing incremental improvement.

I'm gonna go to hasson and wong in a year they said they recommend 1000 to 1500 grafts in my weak spots. My hairline doesn't exist anymore when I see myself in lighting from above and sunlight and is not right for how much hair I had plus 5000 grafts 

7.5 months in sunlight 

H&W got back to me and suggested 1000-1500 in the corners of my hairline and small temple work to thicken up the density of my current hairline and said it is $8 per graft which is the same as the surgeon from Chicago everyone says is top notch.

6 minutes ago, nb98 said:

Ever seen two lads go to the gym and do same routine and often look very different... genetics.. 

your 1st HT had poor yield too, something else to remember 

True. If I'm determined to have poor yield no matter who I go to then it would be best just to take asmed up on the 90% warranty so I can get a touch up for free rather than pay another surgeon and get low yield again. 

OP had great results 

25 minutes ago, nb98 said:

I definitely believe this is down to the patient’s genetics not asmed

Possibly, but I would think the ability of a healthy person with no abnormal conditions would have roughly similar healing ability and regeneration of a hair follicle transplanted assuming the follicle was transplanted of equal skill and correctness in each person. I wouldn't thin one person would have like a 95% yield whereas another person would have a 20% yield. I would  think the variation would be smaller 

1 hour ago, hairlossPA said:

holy shit dude it looks amazing. other asmed patients would kill for this 

Makes me consider taking asmed up on their warranty if they don't get me right the first time 

4 hours ago, HG1 said:

Hey guys, been a while since I've been on. Sorry been busy enjoying the new hair. I'm around 19.5 months since my procedure with Asmed in Istanbul. Its hard to tell but I would say I saw improvement up to around 16 months. I will say it again, in my experience you have got to give a full year before thinking about another pass or considering the procedure a failure. I think my procedure was a great success, as my loss was huge. That's not to say a second pass is out of the question. I had just over 5000 grafts, another 1500 would infill the crown and maybe improve the temples. Having said that, I'm absolutely overjoyed with my result. Some pics below, apologies for the quality, promise to get some decent ones done soon. Again big shout out to Dr Koray and the Asmed team, they're work has been life changing and was worth all the time, money and effort.pic are obviously before and today 🙂.

I'm at 7.5 months right now and my results seem stagnant now with low yield