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He had it done by Greco. I think he had some serious thinning but not sure. He definitely had hair loss as he has been one of the most contributing members of that forum. So it was not some guy with really no loss. I don't want to post links to another forum but if you want to contact him it shouldn't be that hard to find him with some google searching on prp updates.

London, United Kingdom, August 13, 2009 --(PR.com)-- A unique Titanium microneedle roller called the Scalprollertm was unveiled by the British biotech Nanogen at a recent conference in Amsterdam. Over 400 of the world's leading hair loss surgeons and trichologists visited the recent July ISHRS annual meeting where the Scalproller was first exhibited. Nanogen's Scalproller has 4 clinical applications to enhance existing hair loss treatments. When using the Scalproller, penetration of Minoxidil - a prescription hair loss treatment, is increased by over 5 times on treated skin compared to untreated skin. Additionally, Scalproller therapy fades and removes donor scars from hair transplant surgery. Cutting edge hair loss treatment Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) also requires Scalproller treatment to activate the growth factors. Furthermore, the latest research on behalf of Intercytex by Dr Bessam Farjo, and pioneering studies by Dr George Cotsarelis provide evidence that Scalproller therapy may produce new hair growth independently of any other treatment. Dr. Farjo, immediate past president of the ISHRS and also an attendee of the conference, was impressed with this innovation, "Nanogen's Scalproller device is interesting in that it uses concepts of recent leading-edge hair loss research. Certainly, as demonstrated by the recent Intercytex cell therapy trials and previous work on the animal model by Cotsarelis et al., there is good research data to show stimulation of hair growth in response to skin stimulation or injury. Studies have also shown that needle holes of 0.5mm depth or more penetrate the skin sufficiently to increase the diffusion of compounds of similar molecular weight and charge to Minoxidil." The Scalproller is unique in that it is the only microneedle therapy roller specifically designed for hair loss treatment. According to Nanogen Medical Director Elliot Isaacs, "The previous technology for dermatological purposes was insufficient to meet the durability and accuracy requirements of a professional medical device. Harder titanium needles and precise European engineering techniques were necessary to produce a roller that will stay sharp for over 4 months, and perforate the skin to the exact depth every time." The Scalproller, already the subject of several international patents pending, was enthusiastically received by the hair loss and surgical community. Both the home use versions and the longer 1 & 2mm clinical models are already in use in a range of professional practices, and several applications have been made to Nanogen to conduct new research utilising the Scalproller. does this make prp treatments even more credible since they use essentially the same thing as Scalproller along with our own growth factors? Was thinking of doing prp next week and this makes me want to do it even more. Am I right in thinking this way?

A member from another forum just gave his 6 month update of prp. He says "general thickening of hair. not very much - but its alot better than thinning ! no new hair growth (none was expected/promised). the main benefit is that it appears to have stopped the loss for the time being, which is a major result for me. would have it again if i didn't have to travel thousands of miles. PS - This would be great if combined with scalp Botox, the only other treatment thats really helped me in recent years. I think they would be a great combo. " Any thoughts

Hey Spex, I was doing some research and it looks like Dr. Greco is a part owner of Orogen (the company that makes all of the equipment for prp that I believe Feller uses). Is this true? I am not sure what to make of this, just wanted to now if you Greco is in fact part owner of the company.

Hdude thanks for the reply but I think you can never ask too many questions when it has to do with something that is experimental and also includes injections into the scalp. Sorry if my questions annoy you but thanks for the reply. As far as the patient goes, Feller posted two sufferer patients pics and I thought it was the other patient that was not on any meds and that he did not mention whether or not this patient was on meds. Spex can you clear this up??

Spex, thanks for the pics. A couple questions. Was this patient on any meds? If so how long has he been on them? Also I thought Feller had a full head of hair. Why is he not a candidate?? Also does Feller think prp will work on the frontal scalp. Not necessarily the hair line but right behind it??

Spex, so does that mean his patients have experienced less shedding and hair loss as a result of prp? Also can he post the pics of that patient you mentioned last week? Lastly, spex do you mind posting a pic of your hair since you are not a candidate, therefore we can see what type of people are not candidates?

Thanks for the reply Bill. For the first month I used it like 4 times a week and it was great. The it started to hurt my scalp and really flake my hair so I only use it once a week the past month but even when I do it now once a week, I still get the burns for hours after along with the flakes ( don't know if it causes more shedding. It does make my hair really dry and brittle but also seems to thicken it up if thats possible. Also I use Nioxin on the days I do not use nizoral. Is that wise or is Nioxin too harsh to use in conjunction with Nizoral? I think I just might eliminate it but Nizoral is the only thing I am using right now for hair loss because I haven't decided on prp and I heard propecia doesnt really help in the front which is where my loss ( and scalp burning and itch) occurs.

any prp news/updates/results??? Spex?? Feller???

I started using nizoral a couple months back and at first it was good but in the past month or so it has been causing the front of my hair to really flake up and it also causes a huge itch/burning sensation on my scalp. What does this mean and can this contribute to more loss???

Hey guys, I think I am actually going to go with propecia instead of prp just because it has more data behind it. A couple questions first 1) Should I have any blood work done or get anything checked beforehand (thyroid problems, hormonal imbalances etc..)?? I have not had insurance for a while ( I am 22) and I have not had any physicals or blood work done in over 8 years. 2) Also my hair is thinning just in the frontal corners and a little bit in the front middle I think ( I may just be paranoid, I dont know because I am overreacting to this so it the loss in the middle may just be in my head). Anyways should I even try propecia right now or see where my loss goes from here and then get on it since I am so young. I heard propecia stops working after 5 years so I dont know if I want to waste it now, or maybe a better option will be available in 5 years. What do you guys think

Thanks. Also does it help or hurt or do nothing to your hair line because that is where I am thinning. My crown is extremely full and you cannot even see any scalp even if it is extremely wet, just the hairline is thinning.

Thanks Tom. Did you see any sexual sides and were they unbearable? I will probably only take .5 mg a day or 1 mg 3 days a week.

I remember reading something about propecia and infertility. Has anyone here come across this problem or know if there is any link?? Just trying to get as much knowledge as possible before I decide whether or not to start taking it. Also, I read ( I think on this forum) that propecia can actually hurt your hairline. Is this true? My only thinning is at the hairline so I want to make sure this is not the case. Thanks

Went to see 2 docs down here and neither performed a scalp mapping. I would really like to find a doc that does this so I can find out where my loss is heading/not heading. Anyone do this in South Florida?

Went to see 2 docs down here and neither performed a scalp mapping. I would really like to find a doc that does this so I can find out where my loss is heading/not heading. Anyone do this in South Florida?

dr feller mentioned months ago in one of his posts that he is getting a discount the the prp equipment but that discount runs out after the summer so that is why it will go to $800

Yes can we get these pictures up asap. Also as much as I like reading other members concerns or thoughts on prp it would be nice to have some more doctors comment with their thoughts and also what their patients have been reporting back, even if there is no pictures.

sounds good. I would like to hear from Feller himself since it has been a while.

hairthere, yes I need tot ake a break from these forums I think. Also go to propeciahelp.com and you will see what I was saying about turning someone's life upside down. Also my 2 grandfathers both died with full heads of hair. My 3 uncles (moms side) do not have MPB just mature hairlines with pretty full heads of hair (they are all 50+) and my dad is 58 and just started losing some hair in the past 18 months.

Have you shed less hair daily, has all your miniaturized hair thickened or just your healthy hair, any increase in shedding, etc.. please fill us in.

I dont really see the issue with calling it a treatment. I think it is getting hype because it sounds like the best option for people(like me) who do not want to get on propecia and do not have enough hair loss or are too young for a HT. Whether it is a successful treatment still remains to be seen. I am guessing that this treatment will work for ppl who either do not have MPB and their loss is due to stress ( which is essentially poor scalp circulation), scalp conditions, or other things and probably for people who are noticing the very first signs of MPB. The smartest thing for me to do is probably wait a year and see where prp goes but that itself is a risk cuz I may lose more hair in a year and prp might have been able to save those hairs.

Tom R, I am like you and not comfortable with putting up pictures, however if you do decide to that would be great but I am guessing you dont have any before shots since it was 5 weeks ago. Anyways if you can describe the changes in your hair since the treatment that would great for me. Have you shed less hair daily, has all your miniaturized hair thickened or just your healthy hair, any increase in shedding, etc.. please fill us in.

Thanks Hairthere. I know for a fact I am worrying about it too much because it is too the point where it is taking over my life. I am not the same person I was before because I have become somewhat paranoid by it and I am starting to count fallen hairs and what not. My hairloss is not bad just some thinning at the two corners (mainly left) and since my hair is so thick you cannot tell at all when it is dry but I know it is there and I am also sure this stress (understatement) can only make it worse. I might just do the prp to see if it works and thickens those sides up or at the least slow it down but who knows. I almost wish these forums didn't exist because all they do is make me stress about it more and change my decisions. One second Il say thats it im going on propecia then Ill read how it ruined a 22 year olds life then I will say fine I am going to try prp then I will read that it is a waste of money and probably will not work. but now im back to thining I will do the prp just to say I tried it and hopefully it works somewhat but I think I am going to stay away from propecia because even if it did work that means I would have to be on it for the next 30-40 years and theres no way that can be good for your body.

platelet rich plasma....Its a simple treatment go look on open hair loss topics its one of the first topics.