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Does Nader examine fue grafts under a microscope for hairline fue's (1 hair grafts)? Alot of times w/FUE docs they don't examine what to the naked eye look like '1 hair grafts' but are actually 2 or 3 unit follicular units?

I think this is critical for fue hairline work.

I agree. At your age you want the most experienced 'dense packing' surgeon(s) to evaluate you.

It's the only way to go when you have advanced hairloss. Listen to the poster above me and you won't regret it. Don't go to a doctor that does other plastic surgery like your guy in Texas. HUGE mistake. Looks like that guy will basically do any plastic surgery ever invented. You want a true hair restoration expert that has done at least at least 3,000 hair transplant surgeries or has trained extensively under one that has.

2500 grafts 'spread out' won't suit your hair loss. You have to start with the most critical area (hairline) and then move back from there.

Hasson and Wong are pioneers in dense packing w/ a truly aesthetic focus as well.

You need ultra-refined frontal hairline dense packing to match your native hair just behind it. Baubac in Los Angeles is worth a consult (Armani Hair). They are good at that and he is an excellent, caring HONEST surgeon.

Again, PLEASE do not go w/Rassman or his FUE guy - you'll regret it.

And relax. Your hair is better than 95% of the guy's here - there is no need to hurry. Get married (if you must) before your transplant and keep on the finasteride.

Make an informed relaxed decision down the road - that you will NOT regret.

Jeez - pay ATTENTION! Although I really dislike JeanLDD 'cause he is such an anal prick - he knows his doctor info!

Dude - behind your vellous frontal hairline you have really nice terminal long thick hair. You would have to go with someone who can dense pack big time.

Have a consult in Los Angeles w/Dr. Baubac

Oh - and take a valium. How can your fiance deal with you? ; )

Don't go to Rassman in Beverley Hills. There's a reason those two surgeons you wrote about are not recommended.

If I were you I would get a consultation with Gabel in Oregon and Hasson & Wong in Vancouver.

Dude, you have so much hair left - don't screw up the very front w/an inferior surgery.

What I would give for that native hair. Please listen to the guys on this message board w/alot of years behind them.

Get your deposit back and take your time w/this. Get back or stay on the finasteride minimum of 8 months and see where you are again without use of Nizoral and Rogaine and Laser.

Good luck.

Lindsey is not particularly artistic, charges at the very highest end for fut & is a bit of a prick in my opinion.

So he'll do what he wants to do. Making that D.C. money. He should stick w/doing facelifts and other cosmetic work on women. That's his comfort zone anyways.

I'm tired of these types of pics; dudes w/minimal if NO hair loss and they want hairlines lowered to their eyebrows.

It's 'hair porn' & for legit balding men I believe it is insulting.

Money grab by doctor; simple as.

Good videos! Ty...

If you have the money and stamina - you should do another full pass and get your density up through your frontal 1/3rd of your scalp after 12-18 months from initial surgery.

Looks like your density is about 30 grafts per cm2.

For Asian hair like yours you probably would be happy with 60-70 grafts per cm2 in the frontal 1/3rd of your scalp.

Ha! Are you kidding me? Lots of overseas doctors routinely bounce from one operating theatre to another throughout the day.

Privacy isn't like in America - they bop from operating room to consultation room and there are people roaming all over the place.

At 200 days of work per year that is only an avg. of about 2 patients per day.

Work ethic overseas is a bit crazy 'cause they are making less $$$ per patient.

But whatever - I agree. Screw these Turkish clinics unless they are what a poster 2 posts up reco's.

Tar & feather that butcher!

Dat's nuttin' - I had Dr. Matt Leavitt do me in '91 two times for 100 grafts and then 120 grafts two months later @$30.00 per graft.

Near Novi, MI

Beat that!

He is so creepy and now does other medical b.s. other than transplants. Screw him.

Yea I think your doctor makes alot of money and his prices are very high; he should comp you for PRP + A-Cell AND pay for your SMP and give you a refund.

Shame on Dr. Lindsey.

If you have good donor do a consult with H&W - you probably can do another megasession with FUT.

Get one with at least 250 lasers - can go all the way up to 400+.

This guy makes good ones. overmachogrande.com

Time to suck it up and move on. I suggest as a smart guy you do massive research and start wearing hair. Oh well - if you can ventilate a flawless hairline (if you expose it) and buy the best hair and really study the 'art' of wearing; you will pass for a person with hair to about 95% of the population.

The 5% that can tell; fuck 'em. Look into hair forums like Northwest Lace and guys that are meticulous about 'crafting' an irregular hairline AFTER the unit is sent to them.

You're then back earning and banging out ladies and sure - wearing hair is a part-time job BUT if you make sure you're hair is perfect when on the job or out w/the ladies, you can slack off at home and on downtime.

I am sorry your body rejected surgery - but if you 'cling' to your own hair at this point and the redness in the front you are doomed.

There are SO many radically successful guys w/shitty hairpieces that if you wear w/confidence and wear really well-done systems you'll do just fine.

The flipside is you lament endlessly your current situation and blame yourself.

Time to be 'done with transplants' and move on. Life ALWAYS changes us - you need to pivot forward.

Just sayin' & I am not discounting your disfigurement.

Think of other disfigured people, they do EVERYTHING and ANYTHING possible to appear normal in day to day life.

You should now do the same. It's cool that you went into 'stealth mode' and maybe you need a bit more time.

Please don't hide forever; life is too short. Sounds like you have hit bottom.

That's probably good. I wish you the best and want you to know you are a smart guy and can work this out going forward.

If done correctly, wearing hair will be so much better than hiding the rest of your life.

Make the most of an unfortunate situation. None of us can go back in time - so please don't blame yourself.

You deserve to move on and move forward and create something new out of an awful outcome.

peace...

So, for a measly reco'd 300 grafts (you gave him 900) you gave him several scars that are very notice-able on short Afro hair, which the vast majority of black guys wear their hair very short.

Sorry, you should have told him with his basically non-balding pattern that you didn't want his money.

All doctors make errors in judgement; this is one of them.

How many neurotic (we ALL are neurotic when losing hair) patients do you turn away w/very very little hair loss when they are young?

And yes, Feller was my doctor for about 2.25K grafts back in the day - so I'm not picking on you.

And you are showing his identity (eyes) in your rush to publish a video. I think you are very good at your craft but this case of MFUE seems a bit of 'doctor greed' if you ask me.

If you are gonna' do laser I suggest you go LARGE or not at all.

Contact John at overmachogrande.com and order about 400 diodes.

If laser is going to work his helmet (although not pretty and is heavy) is most heavy duty on the market.

Nothing personal and I never judge - but Doc and Wendy look faded in the beginning of the video. Haha! Good case study!

Very aggressive hairline for a 24 year old. I don't know any U.S. surgeons that would be so aggressive for patients under 25 years old.

Good luck kiddo!

Everyone takes their hair loss 'personally' and most look for best-case scenarios both now and into the future.

If you lose most of your hair from the top and vertex that is 50K hairs you lost (or are miniaturizing). 12.5K transplants, about 25K hairs brings you to 50% of normal.

The thing is a hair transplant, even at 50% of normal density is an illusion of density (under good lighting and extremely favorable hair characteristics). At around 70% of normal density is when hair really looks normal.

I don't believe that 30% of normal density is cosmetically acceptable (this is marketing by doctors). Finally, the contrast between very thick donor and transplanted region will ALWAYS be fairly obvious unless you FUE out the donor to a great deal.

For people like me (and probably nearly 50% of hair transplant USA patients) our hair density isn't super high nor is the caliber of our hair very thick. We basically have straight/fine hair.

It is obvious that most young guys who are savvy on the internet w/great results post the most/best short-term results. A doctor NEVER shows poor results voluntarily nor do even 5% (much less) of poor results from customers ever get posted. Duh!

Would I have just had another 5K fut if avodart (better than finasteride) kept working for me after 15+ years? Oh, my crown didn't start thinning until about 2010 - aged 43.

That was 8 years after I began dudasteride and after using finasteride for 5 years previous to that.

I'm happy for younger guys who get their 1st surgery and are tickled to death for awhile; that's a good thing. But if you are in your 20's and have crown thinning/balding but a solid hairline - don't girls find that unacceptable? Haha!

Frankly, hair transplantation should never have been invented; most guys after age 40 can deal w/hair loss (life goes on believe it or not) and it is natural.

I'm locked in and knew that I was back in the early 90's. I recommend to anyone I know not to do it. It is not necessary.

Having written all of that - like everything as one hits 35, then 40 & then 45 and 50 years old, NOTHING in your body works as well as when you are in your 20s' and early-to-mid 30's.

Including your damned hair! If you are losing it early (25 years and under) it wants to all go away eventually.

Good luck!

Sounds good!

I like this thread!

Just one thing, those w/fine hair and a bit lower density w/less avg. hairs per follicle (on avg.) and that are losing their hair at age 25 or younger - watch out!

I've been on minoxidil since the early 90's and am now using 30% minox compounded from a pharmacy the last 18+ months, been on propecia since about '96 or '97 and switched to avodart in '02. Use a 400+diode laser helmet since June '17 (high quality), been using nizoral 2% shampoo for 15+ years & have had 8,500 grafts done since '91. Last two surgeries were 2250 fut in 2004 and 5000 fut in March '17.

I'm 50 and have been losing my hair since probably age 21. It NEVER stops - regardless of how hard you try.

It's a progressive disease. Young guys 'hope' they have stabilized, and sure - at times you will.

Hair transplants for at least 50% are a lifetime commitment if you want really good results and you don't have thick/dense Spanish or Italian or Mediterranean hair.

Ever seen Indian or Asian guy's hair? It's poor in density and thickness and overall quality.

It's a long road and MANY guys even w/early hair loss will see what I am writing about once you hit your 40's (hairloss can accelerate no matter what) once you've been on drugs/lotions for 15+ years.

Good luck and yea; I'm gonna' do a couple FUE surgeries AFTER my final fut surgery next year. I'm hoping I have another 2-3K left in FUT.

peace

"Any recommendations on a regimen I can order online a follow through with discretion, i'm really self aware :)"

Do what I do; go through

https://www.medicalwellnesscenter.com/

They are great and based out of Maryland.

Simple. You already have a scar. Do another max FUT and see what you see 12-18 months after surgery.

If you really have good density have another FUT from the 'safe' zone and max it out. You might want to concentrate on the frontal 1/3rd to 2/5th's of your scalp since you'll never be able to completely fill in your crown.

It looks like you had good 'frontal band' pre-surgery #1 - I would pack tightly behind that so if wearing hair long or medium you get more coverage going back from the 2nd half of your head to your crown.

Then use remainder in crown to give tighten up your 'whorl.'

Good luck!

Check out the Northwest Lace forum. Lot of DIY posts.

This is really good advice! Best 'toup' message board on the internet; good quality and you can customize (the sky is the limit) & members are active and eager to help.

One thing I never really understood was why don't guys truly 'customize' the frontal hairline and make it irregular and ventilate it artistically?

One could take pics of the best 'artistic fronts' and go to someone who does ventilate (local theatre person) or send to someone who does custom front work and seriously have a great hairline.

Good luck!