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Blake has been asked the punch size many times but does not seem to know but why he cannot just simply make a phone call to the punch manufactuer to clear this up i dont know. you are right mickey several groups are extracted so in esence a mini strip. The use of fue in the title is just piggy backing on the popularity of fue which is blatantly obvious.. Blake has been rubbishing fue for about a year now while all the time working on this OLD i mean new method of extracting cash i mean hair. What size is the punch? What ammount of damage is done to the follicles on the perimeter of the punch both on the STRIP that is removed and the edge of the wound because it is certainly not the 1.6% blake has quoted? Were are pictures of a shaved down donor area post op? Why use a punch? Why not cut them out with a blade to avoid donor damage? If as you state Blake we should be trying to preserve every available hair why are you plunging a large punch into the scalp when it is obviously going to damage the donor supply? I think the results will look ok but at what cost to the donor region? To me it just seems like a rush job to extract fugs so techs can be used because the drs cannot be bothered to just get stuck in and give people what they really want and that is PROPER FUE at a resonable cost. I would suggest looking at dr vories work ethic and prices then follow suit Imgonna modify sarcasm now its called SCAR CASM very funny post scar i think you must have some english blood running through your veins .

This imo should be taken with a very large pinch of salt. Who carried out this research? That's right US drs who as we know are pro fut for te most part for reasons we all know. Are these drs anywhere in anyones top ten for fue? Well not in mine that's for sure. While I think this technique I would personally have rather than fut I would still go proper fue. Whilst blake says transection rates of less than 2% I am presuming this isdata gathered from examination of the removed segment of scalp but what about the damage to the folicle damage on the edge of were this segment is removed? I don't believe you can wield this punch in dence donor areas without a lot more transection than is being claimed.Blake dispite being asked several times has still not told us the size of any punch they have used.Why we don't need a calculation of the area the punch covers just the dimentions. From the pictures on the first page it looks to me to be aprox 10mm by about 6mm. Now let's just think about it. 18 fugs blake says with each punch. Noew let's say a 3600 graft procedure that's 200 of these scars. The reason fue scaring blends so well is it difused scaring over a large area. With this technique the only way I see it not being a problem is if the patient is never going to wear their hair short. I just cannot see this scarring blending in like fue does. 200 . 8. to 10mm scars will show up badly on a very short hair cut. Have you any examples of the scaring with very short hair blake? Do you know the sizes of the punchs you have been using? If this had been presented by dr feller or lindsay there sould be no conflict of interest but by a mod that's wrong. Don't forget folks this has been on sale for While now has it not blake? I really hope I am wrong for all our sakes and this turns out to be mega. You have convinced ko but he always buys into whatever you say anyway. The top fue drs are getting at best 70% yield lol. Ko can tell by just looking whether it is fue or fut because of the difference it hair charactersteristics lol Please show us ko some fue cases were the hair in the recipient looks different to the donor hair? Rant over good night And david -taking the plunge I appreciate straight talkers so say what you want you won't offend me. From page one Why create a new approach to FUE? The FUE technique continues growing in popularity. Patients clearly want FUE. Whether it's the less invasive nature or the lack of the linear scar, hair loss sufferers have spoken! There are serious limitations to the technique, however, and growth and quality of FUE hair is still not on par with strip. But why is this? The best evidence we have available may offer an explanation: *The "blind" approach to FUE graft harvesting creates transection rates as high as 32%. *The small punches and pulling of grafts during delivery severly "skeletonizes,” or removes the protective tissue layer surrounding follicular unit grafts. According to studies, the growth rate of skeletonized FUE grafts is between 48-68.7%. This means only 1/2 to 2/3rd of all these "skeletonized" FUE grafts grow. *This same analysis shows that grafts extracted with an appropriate amount of supportive tissue grow 45% better than skeletonized FUE grafts (Reference). So what does this tell us? FUE is becoming very popular, but it may be less efficient and produce more variable results. Hair loss patients only have a finite number of available follicular unit grafts, and each one of these grafts must be optimized and used wisely. We do not believe the FUE techniques available today utilize these precious grafts properly, and wanted to find a way to overcome these issues and deliver the results patients deserve with the minimal scarring they want.

David I am blunt as a freight train I am originally from yorkshire were this is the norm. Rude maybe. Is Blake and Joe not their names? Would you rather I call them Sir ? or what? Please tell me something I have posted that is incorect? If people are offended by a direct to the point question I suggest they get real. Blake has been banging on for some time about this technique caiming it to be new when infact its not. Would you prefer I change my name to snow white and act like her? You said Blake can stand up for himself so let him. The fact he is not working in partnership with Dr Feller yet is irrelevent there is still a conflict of interest as he is laying the groundwork and drumming up buisness for when he does start.. A Doctor as a moderator- A moderator plugging a (new technique) the very technique he has been working on and will shortly be gaining from financilly but of course there is no conflict!!! At one time Dr Feller was highly regarded Dr for his fue but; that was years ago now he probably ould not e in most peoples top 5 or even 10. Like I said I am blunt Put it this way who would go to Dr Feller if lorenzos clinic was next door? It would of been better if they had unveiled this (new technique) at the next ishrs conventioo

I will say one thing I would much rather have this than strip that's for sure

Blake with all due respect you are a moderator you should not be allowed to be plugging this (new) technique there is definately a conflict of interest here and imo there has been with you for some time. When you say that (your) (new) technique has less ttransection than standard fue on what are you basing this statement? How do you know the transection rates of any drs? You don't. You can't. I thought you said you were not going to make any wild claims you could not back up. With (your technique)I would suggest that the chance of transection is greater because it must be that much harder working with the bigger punch and the greater the donor density the more chance there must be of transection surely? The biggest benefit I see in this approach is to the us clinics were they can utilise techs to a certain degree in the procedure as its basically mini strip. Show us the recipient areas.Show us the donor shaved down close.Fingers holding back hair on a strip scar does not reveal much then when we see it shaved down for a fue op its a tottally different kettle of fish. Shows us please erdogans's bisangi's lorenzo's transection rates.You know you cannot so stick to what is fact without putting down proven technique to big up one you are promoting and selling. Quit as a mod or stop promoting what your selling and stop attacking the proven effectiveness of fue its what more and more people are opting for.

Well to be honest blake I am disapointed after looking forward to some new ground breaking technique you'vecome up with something that's already been tried and dissmissed. For the life of me I cannot see any advantage that is not far out weighed by the disadvantages. Surely you can tell us the lenght and width of the punch sizes? With fue individual fu are targeted but with mfue surely follicles cannot be avoided being damaged on the perimeter of the punch. Whilst your obviously trying to keep scaring to a minimum I still think it will stick out like a soar thumb with close cropped hair once a larger session is carried out especially on those who scar badly. I think the chances of shock loss will probalby be greater than with standard fue. All in all your demonising of fue that you have been doing for some time now becomes clear. The majority of the time when carried out by the worlds best fue drs fue is a match for the best fut drs but without the linear scar. Patients don't want visible scaring allowing them to shave as close as possible with it being undetected and with this technique I just do not see this being the case. Damage to donor area- unaceptable scaring- cost? - to do what has been achieved with regurlar fue for many many years now. If you had come up with some way of lifting a fue graft out rather than force having to be exserted now that would of been a step forward. I applaud all new trys at advancment in ht and I appreciate all your efforts but as dr vories said this has been tried with results he did not even felt warranted documenting. Dr feller is one of the most expensive drs going so is this technique going to be cheaper or more expensive than his proper fue rates? I was intrigued but now I just feel a little deflated.

Would it not be that the its the incisions that the grafts are seted in were cut at the wrong angle ?

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/177864-what-happens-when-donor-site-left-open.html This is one of many reasons why i would never go for strip. Who is the dr that did this? Is it going to be that he sees for strip? When was this 10 years ago?no last year. Surely its not a recomended dr by this forum? yes it is Has there been any investigation into who this dr is ? Seems to be a lot of fue bashing going on of late could this be the latest attempt by US clinics to stop people choosing alternative countries for the type of procedure they cannot get in the US ? Blake if you and dr feller feel that fut far out ways fue and that as you have said before you think US docs talk people into fut because they are ethical are you and dr feller not being unethical by carrying out fue? Are you also saying that fue only clinics are unethical? because thats exactly what it sounds like. I think its pure and simple that the vast majority of patients want fue and they cannot get it in the US for numerous reasons so they go abroad and save a good bit of money in the proces. There are not that many good fue docs in the US nowadays but in europe and turkey there are lots of good fue only clinics at half or a third or less of the price per graft compared to dr feller. Why would anyone choose dr feler other than conveience of locality?

As always Joe a very thorough answer and yes a ot of what i based the above post on was asumed. I am glad that you have advised he change his price structure. With regard to the thread i mentioned the patient first was going to go through a agency but decided to cut out the middle man and went directly to the dr. They agreed a price for 2500 grafts but in person the dr said he only needed 2000, The way i understood it the doc was charging a set price for 1000-2000 and 2000-3000 so he charged roscoe for the 2000-3000 price and gave him the least possible grafts to fall in that price range. It was roscoe himself i think that said that one less that would of saved him several hundred pounds or it might of been quite a few hundred he said. He also said he was not picked up at the airport and he would of been had he gone through the agency. Also it was a different hotel which he had not been made aware of. He had to arange taxis to and from clinic and airport all of which would of all been sorted by the agency and as it turns out all for the same price as he paid the dr so he was a bit out of pocket in several different aspects. Some of this sounded like teething problems with the clinic other aspects sounded like greed and uncaring. But what struck myself and others who actually posted on the thread including roscoe was the drs attitude which enraged roscoe. Several posters said there that his attitude had lost this dr their custom and if you read right through the thread you will probably understand why. I hope you can put dr k right on a few of the things high lighted n the thread as he clearly needs help with his customer relations. I am and im sure many others looking forward to your video documentrys of your travels and it was just an assumption that your travels were being funded by the clinics you were going to be covering and being paid by them for doing so. Asumption based on the thought that your not earning as a rep for any particular clinic at the moment. I know that if anyone has the knowledge to help a clinic develop its reputation its you and with drk lets hope you can turn his very rocky start on here around. He really needs to work on being able to handle aposing points of veiws better than just calling people trolls and reps of other clinics as it does him no favours whatsoever. Im sure you can turn things around for him bbut i sugest reading through roscoes thread asa good starting point. Safe journeys joe and all the best with all your new ventures im sure you will do great

So have you eventually decided your going with strip? Have you decided were your going or are you still just talking the talk but not prepared to walk the walk to the clinic door? lol

Has there ever been any research into avoiding the dredded sheding of transplanted hair because it would be great if it grew straight away without all the pimples. i can not tell anything from them pictures. Do the hairs pull out or are they firmly anchored?

It look good for this early. What advantage do you think acell brings in the way of results ? There is such conflicting imformation being thrown around so why do you use it dr ?

What exactly is the point of this joe? You are not going to give a honest reveiw or rather should i say your not going to point out any shortcomings because you work for this surgeon so what is the purpose of this? Anyone looking for a ht dr should and do look at their patients and from what i have seen this dr is lacking. Not in skill although i have honestly not seen any wow result but mostly very average. Also i dont get his use of fut/fue combo's could you please explain ? One reveiw by a guy from Scotlnd really slated this dr's attitude and it seems your dr ripped him off somewhat because if he had one graft less he said he would of saved quite a few hundred pounds. Joe you have worked with some of the very best hair transplant clinics in the world why this move to one that isnt? Are you visiting with the more well respected clinics in turkey while your there? asmed. dr donagay,dr demisoy to name a few I really hope this all pans out for you as your knowledge is without question. Joe if you really want to help this dr which you obviously do have a look at roscoes thread and explain to the dr where he went so wrong and tell him to stop insulting people. Looking forward to your videos joe im sure they will be great. Enjoy your travels

The last time i checked blake both Madrid,Spain and Manchester ,England were both still in Europe, Fut is going to be something we have to look up in the hisory books in the not to distant future as more and more people want fue, and why would we go to the US for fue when theres beter exponents of fue in europe or turkey at a fraction of the cost. I thought lorenzos prices went up while he was at farjos in the uk but dropped once he returned to spain. So what is this new fue technique you keep banging on about blake? I cannot really see how the fue technique can be improved greatly unless you have developed a punch that cuts the graft out at its base then extracts it and then implants it in the recipient area. Are you ever going to divulge all the imformation about it? ::eek: