thatoldchestnut

Gives a much more of a defined and elegant look to the hairline and temple areas in my opinion. Money well spent, but hopefully he doesn't lose any more.

 

Agreed.

 

Even if he does lose more i suspect the conservative nature of the transplant is such that it shouldn't be a problem.

? Are you worried about your sides dropping down at some point when fin stops working?

 

Why would fin stop working? :confused:

Agree with the sentiments above - Konior and regret are not words that are readily associated around here!

Honestly, the hair line is quite straight but I don't think it looks pluggy or unduly uniform. Did the people who commented have prior knowledge about your procedure/concerns?

 

I don't think I would question the uniformity of your hairline unless I knew exactly what I was looking for. Some people do have naturally straight hairlines that are similar to yours. In the middle of your 3 pics the line actually looks reasonably soft, although it is certainly quite straight.

Go to your GP and get a prescription written. Absolutely no reason to pay the extortionate premiums involved obtaining a prescription from Dr. Edgar or similar.

 

 

 

It will look like see through pubes after your first trano plant.

 

 

Based on experience

 

 

Don't post this unsubstantiated nonsense in response to someone asking for advice. I don't doubt you imagine that you are offering genuine insight but assuredly, you are not.

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Agree with JL to be honest. Provided your eyes are wide open, you're committed to meds and the doctor green-lights it; no reason why anyone should be forced to "settle" for a hairline that is not what the pt wants.

 

The only thing I would add is that it may be tough to reach a satisfactory density in one pass! Good luck whatever you decide!

 

 

Pseudo-trolling aside, best of luck!

Who says I don't have empathy ?

 

This Finasteride poison drove me to the brink of suicide and made me experience depression that I never felt in my entire life.

 

People have a right to know how dangerous this drug can be.

 

If I had known about the full list of side effects (which can last forever) I never would of taking it.

 

I would never wish to denigrate the difficulties you've suffered, but as I am so often minded to remember when reading such anecdotes; correlation does not equal causation.

These threads are thoroughly tiresome; they add very little to the discussion that hasn't already been said a thousand times.

800 grafts, conservative design and a doctor considered to be ethical, but conservative.

 

I think the above hits the nail on the proverbial head. The result looks solid taking into account these factors.

Agree with Spanker. I have also been on propecia (generic fin, in my case) for over 2 years and I really don't think shedding 20-30 hairs in the shower is anything to fret about. It's normal to shed far, far more than that per day.

 

 

With respect to point #1:

 

Obviously, when researching hair transplantation it's important to garner an understanding of a doctor's body of work. There's no denying that one of the most fundamentally relevant forms this will take for any prospective patient is to view results, as presented by the doctor/clinic in question. That said, to promote an approach which focuses on these presentations to the exclusion of almost all other sources is, to my mind, demonstrably incorrect (if this wasn't your intention, it's certainly unclear in this video).

 

Much in the same way you (or indeed any other right-thinking member of our "community") have a healthy disdain for shills who would champion a certain technique/doctor above all others (or illegitimately denigrate those whose tenets/work they are in competition with), any patient considering hair transplantation should also approach clinic posted results and opinions with a healthy degree of moderacy. They ought to be imbued with the knowledge that these clinics have a de facto self-serving interest in only presenting their most successful cases. These posts are not made as interesting case studies (though they may well serve that purpose), they are direct advertisements for the surgeon in question's work and have been adjudged by the source to be not only representative of their work, but their best work.

 

I do not mean to suggest that such examples are to be routinely treated with extreme skepticism (though in certain cases, depending on the manner of presentation and facts disseminated, they perhaps ought to be), nor would I assert that by simple virtue of their origin they are entirely compromised as a learning resource. Lucidly, if a doctor/clinic posts a plethora of impressive results, it should not be discounted!

 

I believe it is extremely important, where possible, to seek out patient posted results (and not only comments on results from the clinic itself, re: point #4 in your video) as a complimentary base of knowledge. An equilibrium between the two is, in my view, strongly preferrable to an approach that advocates either resource dominating the other. When purchasing a product, one would not think it appropriate to consult with the manufacturer/provider to ascertain the quality of the goods/services in question, as any response is not only likely, but in my view, guaranteed to be inextricably biased. While I am certain this is not a perfect analogy, it is almost certainly fit for purpose.

 

One should remain distinctly mindful of the context in which any and all information is divulged on this forum, it should be routine to question the legitimacy of it's source and their apparent motivations. A hypothetically disgruntled patient's disparaging remarks should not be spared this contextual lens, neither should the over zealoused shill and nor should the apparently neutral doctor.

Yes, but I'd like to avoid cross pollination and retain anonymity on this site if possible!

 

 

Removed the allusion to your pseudonym, feel free to edit it out of your post, too.

Could be Telogen Effluvium. More likely just normal shedding.

No problem, I think Keser is at least worth a look. He'd be a definite front-runner if I was close to pulling the trigger. He cherry-picks his cases but when you're only looking for hairline work, that's not such a bad thing and as you say, doing the entire operation himself is a huge plus in my book!

 

Best of luck with your consults

Also in Belgium.

 

Also, FWIW the lack of regulation should be a non-issue with Keser as he performs the entire procedure.

Couto, de Freitas, Keser, Feriduni, Erdogan, Lupanzula. Spoilt for choice in Europe, really.

Beautiful work as one would expect! I'm sure this patient is over the moon!

Hard to tell really, you appear to have fine (or medium/fine) blonde hair and the length makes it more difficult to discern the density. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume this is 50/cm2 though. It does look like a successful op though in terms of what the doctor actually planted.

 

Personally I would recommend that if you do go for a follow up, you go to someone who has a bit more of a reputation as a "hairline specialist". They're not going to force you to get a low, nw-1 esque hairline, just be very clear about what you want!

 

It may even end up being advantageous that you've already had this op, as it's probably easier to recreate a very high density over a couple of procedures than it is in just one sitting (which is why i suspect the dr in question insisted on 50/cm2). That said, there are several top docs who are quite happy to transplant @ 60-70 fu/cm2 in one sitting and obtain excellent results.

Glad to hear you're happy but please, for the love of God, paragraphs!

This result looks great and serves as a good example of just how important temple points can be. Even with a "naturally receded" hairline, the temple points really frame the face here!

that sounds entirely realistic, my only thought outside what hsrp suggested is that they may have taken the lines you attached too literally.

 

I think this may well be the case, too. You only need one fully restored and a slight augmentation of the other.

 

Fantastic result and good luck whatever you decide!

The majority of patients that come to us, and prob to many of the clinics, don't come from the forums, and are less likely to post their experience...

 

I'm not disputing that fact and you're probably correct in that assertion. None the less, we can only interpret the experiences that are reported and aggregate them.

 

You presuppose that the patients that are satisfied with their results are not motivated to share their experience...

the number of patients that come from the forums and go back to share their experience, in general, is way less than 100%.

Especially when they are happy

I would contest this as fundamentally illogical since, in fact, the majority of patients who post probably are satisfied with their outcomes. Personally, I think it comes down to whether they are inclined to share their experience in general; as we see the whole gamut of those experiences from the enormously positive, to the decidedly negative and everything in between.

 

Taking the converse of your example (and playing devil's advocate, rather than being directly critical which was never my intention to begin with), a clinic is unlikely to select a poor result for presentation on a forum like this and these represent the majority of cases we are privy to. So then, what value should we attribute to these inherently biased examples?

 

I think it would be unwise to formulate an opinion of a clinic's relative worth on the basis of "Well, I don't see many patient experiences online, they must all be off enjoying their great results!". One must be mindful of conducting balanced research in what is a very important decision for a number of reasons. It is this balance and the need for it that my posts and others like it seek to evince.

With all due respect, we do FUE on daily basis with successful results and you site two patients and call it roll of the dice. I don't think its a fair assessment.

 

Tara

 

Please don't misrepresent what I said. I didn't say it was a roll of the dice and clearly, anyone with a semblance of intelligence realises that when i cite two results, it's not a comprehensive assessment of the doctor's body of work.

 

I clearly stated it was A BIT MORE of a roll of the dice. I'm sure that Dr. Rahal has produced many great results using both FUE and FUT, but I am more inclined to listen to patient experiences than results disseminated by the clinic and I can only conclude that in relation to FUE specifically, these patient experiences are more mixed than the overwhelmingly positive FUT cohort.