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Hi.. just curious.. does anyone else get a mild burning sensation on the crown area were it is loosing hair ?? i know i do. Some days are worse than others. wish i could get rid of the sensation because its annoying. a mild burning itching sensation. does nizorel shampoo get rid of this sensation ? update on the piece. i bought a hair piece online. it matched my colour and texture but looked very thick and more hair than i have. I had it cut in but still its very thick. So im not sure. I was researching around the place and found a site that do "suction wigs". They use a thin layer of silicone. They also use untreated european hair. The hair piece i bought was using indian remy hair and in my research people say that "european untreated hair" is better for people like me with very fine hair. More natural looking. I also sent pics to a lady who does wigs and was recommended this also. so in the new year im waiting on a reply from a lady who does these "silicone suction based wigs" to see price etc. She has 25 years experience in wigs. I figured if im going to get it done i want to go somewhere who know what they are doing, a proffesional, and have it cut in properly. Nothing worse than a poor wig huh. So as soon as i get the reply it looks like im flying home for a few days to get something sorted out. its worth the time and money because currently im not happy. And i wont be happy until i have this hair loss problem resolved. thanks for the support everyone shall let you know how i get on.

hi frank.. well done getting the medication. let me know how it goes if there is any side effects or shedding etc. i still have to find the time and courage to go to the doc yet. But i shall get there. but yeah let me know how you go once you start taking the medication. thanks for the update

hi.. ive been doing research.. the swiss lace using tape piece looks good with human hair. Has a good hairline. In my research ive been advised that "clip ins" pull at your natural hair. Are uncomfortable especially to sleep in. Also have been told "clip ins" are not very secure. I see, and its a very good point, bob what you saying about hair peices are for some and not others and also to try it first. But I dont wish to be bald at the young age of 36 and after having long hair all my life im kinda used to it and would preffer to stay that way. Also where i live is very cold and yeah its cold already with thinning hair. So figure a piece may also keep my head warm as well as keep a youthful appearance. <sorry trying to make a joke, humour> I think ive found a good place in australia that sell pieces. They are a lot cheaper than two others places. One qouted me $1800. One qouted $1200 for a clip in. This place i found online, which i emailed and he emailed back with hepful information, sell hair peices for $500 and give a large selection of bases etc. Ive emailed him back with several other questions. I just want to do thorough research before diving in and shaving whats left there. At the moment im using nanogen nanofibres. They work good and conceal But im tired of it getting on my fingers now and then when i rub my head. Sometimes a bit can sprinkle out onto my forehead. Nothing bad but yeah just have to be warey to check them mirror to wipe it off so i dont look like ive been working in a coal mine. lol. I give nanofibres this much. I live on a small windy island and i was out the other day and it was blowing a gail and the fibres stayed in. I wasnt out for long but the wind was sure blowing a storm. I also figured that, if i possibly go down the swiss lace hair piece road, it would only bee a once a week detach, clean up and reattach routine. In time like anything i would get used to it and it would be a more semi permanant solution. Would also be nice to have a hairline again after all those years without having to grow long hair from the back and brushing it forward to have a pretend hairline. lol I will continue to do research and use nanofibres for the time being. Just would like to come up with a solution before i loose more up top. Which seems to be going fast and thinning out. So yeah basically would like to come up with a solution before im bald for awhile and then all of a sudden full head of hair. Would spin people out. But yeah you know what i mean. oops sorry.. another woffle season thanks for everyones help shall post when ive done more research etc

bummer.. they only take visa i have mastercard damn

hi.. can i ask several questions please ? 1. where is quality-rx ? is this in america ? 2. Is it safe to take proscar without seeking advice from a doctor first ? 3. Can you get proscar cheaper in australia if it is listed on the government cheaper medication scheme ? Or if you have a health care card can you obtain proscar cheaper with a script from a local doctor ? 4. If you dont mind me asking Mickey. Why are you desperate for proscar ? I to have to find time and the courage to go to my doctor and ask about proscar or propecia. I am also wondering if they will give me a script for this medication and if it will help. I am also curious, once you take this medication, how rapid and bad the shedding of current hair is ??.... I cant afford to shed much as what ive got only barely covers my thinning hair with the help of nanogen fibres. Sorry i dont wish to hijack the thread I am just curious about the answers to the questions. thanks all.. this forum helps a lot

hi.. i would say norward 4 or 5.. i have pics of my disaster in the "hair piece" thread under "clip in". if what the consultant john said is true, im waiting on his reply to my question if it is a waste of time taking propecia and minox, i guess my only other option is a piece. I cannot afford 16,500 for a transplant. I wish. But as he said, i thank him for his honesty, that it could be a waste of time as more loss will happen and i wont be satisfied with the result. hair loss is most frustrating. Especially when you wake up each morning thinking about it. Also when its on your mind most of the time and constantly checking the mirror. So yeah thats why im thinking of just biting the bullet and going with a hair piece as i dont have the balls to shave my head and im ugly enough without doing so. anyway thanks for everyones advice. I may still look into propecia next week. See what happens i guess. oh before i go .. hey frank.. got a question for you.. proscar.. is that on the PBS.. meaning is it cheaper because its subsidized by the government ?... or is it always full price ? thanks

Hi Bob. thanks for your advice. i will take your advice and do so. im nervous how it will look and if people will notice. But i guess i can only try. got a question bob : I was advised that european virgin hair was best for fine hair that would suit mine best ??... Is this true ?... or is indian hair just as fine and good to use ? i read on another forum that you know of places online that sell quality pieces. could you please private message me with links to some of these websites. thank you sir

Hi All.. thanks frank for getting back to me.. i asked John from NHI about propecia after sending him pics of my head. this is what he sent back ----- In answer to your questions, it is not too late to see an increase in density using medication. However the older you are, the less likely you are to see a visual improvement. I would not expect to see much of an increase in density using either Propecia or Minoxidil. Perhaps an improvement within your crown may be noticed. If you are lucky the front and mid scalp may improve a little. I have seen a number of patients using medication see a noticeable increase in density but it is usually within the mid scalp and crown. We don't tend to see the hairline thicken up on medication. Some patients will notice increased shedding on these medications which can last for 8 weeks. If it keeps going for longer than it is best to stop it completely. You will have to see your local GP to obtain a prescription for Propecia. Every chemist sells it. We do offer it at NHI but we can not offer it someone that has never been into the clinic. John ------ in reply i asked him if its worth trying and if hes basically saying not to bother either 1.my age of 36 isnt worth taking the drugs or 2. my condition is to bad. im waiting on his reply thanks all

Hi.. I totally agree... 16,500 is very serious cash .. especially if I need 1 or more transplants. He did say in the email that. About dissapointment after spending such money. At least he was very very honest. Im going to go to the doctor myself, and as John from NHI advised, im going to try propecia. Im curious but i dont know if its the wonder drug. But i shall stay positive and try it out. I have tried minoxidol twice and it makes my hair very greasy and uncomfortable. So i will see the doctor and ask about propecia and try it. I will stick with it for over 12 months and see how i go. Its an option and hey i may as well try it. The website you linked me, chemist warehouse, etc have propecia etc. Just need to obtain a script from the doctor which wont be hard at all. Especially if you explain what its for and they can look it up on the computer. This whole loosing hair thing is very very distressing huh. If i was 56 i would say oh well im old. But 36 isnt old and it sux bad. So yeah i will try propecia for over a year and see how it goes. Shall see my doctor this week. Sad fact is that a peice maybe in need in the not to distant future and im unsure and nervous about that. No doubt it will look obvious and i shall feel like a goose. I guess i could try it out and see how it looks. Its only 1000k instead of 16k. Anyway shall let you all know. thanks for the reply frank... let me know how you go at the doctors. I shall let you know also. thanks all have a great day

Hi.. i got a reply from National Hair institude Melbourne, Australia.. i hope its ok to cut and paste on here and doesnt bend the rules. If so let me know and sorry in advance. here is a copy of the email i got. Frank maybe interested. ----------------------- My name is John Mandic and I am the Client Counsellor at the National Hair Institute. I have reviewed your photos and can see that your hair loss is in the moderate stages and that most of the thinning has occured within the front half of your scalp. Whilst you may possibly appear to be a candidate for a hair transplant my recommondation would be the you consider trialling hair loss medication for a year. Minoxidil lotion (Rogaine or Hair A-Gain) can be obtained from any chemist over the counter. Finasteride (Propecia or Proscar) can be obtained with a script from your Doctor. Go to www.propecia.com for more information about it. I recommend that after doing your research, that you trial at least one of the two medications listed above for 12 months and to let us know how it is going. My biggest concern is that if you have a transplant now and you continue to find the rest of your hair thinning, you will not remain happy for long. If you wished to transplant the front half of your scalp, it would take about 3000 follicular unit grafts (around 6000 total hairs) and this would cost $16,500. Please do email me if you have any further questions. Sincerely, ---------------------------- I thought it may of been about 7 or 8 grand.. but 16k... wow... i fell off my chair. I dont have that kinda cash. So im going to book an appointment with my doctor and ask about propecia. I am going to also email back John and ask more about propecia. Frank, have you been to see your doctor about propecia as yet ?? Let me know how you went. Thanks all..

ok awesome.. it will hopefully arrive this week.. cant wait to try it... ive put up with the itchyness and inflamed feeling on my scalp for months now and its driving me completely nuts. i will post the results when i try out the shampoo thanks so much for the help and advice much appreciated

top of head that also shows the back without a part down the middle i was advised by another place, a salon, who seem to specialise in hair extensions and clips ons. They have pics on there site of work they have done which look great. That the best idea for me would be to shave the entire top of my head and put in place a piece using russian hair and tape it on. i dont know which is the best solution to be honest as ive never done anything like this before. look forward to everyones helpful opionions thanks all

another top of head shot .. showing fron and back without a big part down the middle

this is the back

Hi.. I was advised by an independent old guy whose been doing hair pieces since 1969 that i would be better off getting a piece that is clip on. I forgot to ask, out of nerves, and he didnt tell me how much maintanence it would require and how often i would have to replace it. He did say that indian human hair is the best. he made a template and took a hair sample. i havent given him the green light to order it yet as i dont know much about clip on hair peices. he took a template of the entire top of my head. i have quite good hair on the sides of my head. the front hairline is gone and the back is heavily thinning. He said it would be clipped on the sides... back and to the tuft which is left on the front of my head. He said it could also be taped on the front. But i was thinking how secure with the clips can this thing stay on ? like if i bent down or upside down i guess the thing would flop down and look kinda silly. I dont know. But otherwise he was honest and good. He only does peices for private already existing clients. The only way i found him was from the phone book in which he was amazed i found it. So he wasnt in for major profit or whatever. I guess since hes been doing that kinda thing for a long time he would know what hes on about? but yeah my main question for anyone whose worn a clip on hair system... would be .. what it like ??.. if it reliable ?.. or does it come off or rip off easy ? i just wanted to ask some questions from an experienced person before i go ahead and order the piece and buy it. i know i have to do something about my hair loss in the next few months and just want to explore all avenues. i will place pics of the top of my head. thanks

Hi.. is it called "Revita?® Hair Growth Stimulating and Hair Loss Prevention Shampoo" ive bought some online... i hope it works out for me. Im using a natural shampoo at the moment that doesnt have certain chemicals etc normal shampoos have. I got it off a tricologist. It makes my hair feel good but yeah doesnt get rid of that inflamed burning sensation. Im going to make an appointment to see a doctor to get a referral to see a dermatologist this week. I also hope they have some answers for me. Thanks so much for replying to my post. Once i get the Revita shampoo in the post box and try it out i shall place my results here in this thread and let everyone know how i went. As most people say on this forum and its true.. "ive just started my journey" and this forum has been so good and useful. thank you all. shall post again soon

Hi.. I saw a trichologist and she told me, which i already knew, that i had MPB and it was genetic. But ive felt this inflamation feeling before i used the fibres. But good idea. I will see my GP doctor this week about propecia and ask to see a dermatologist to get it checked it. Wish i could fix it as its uncomfortable. thanks for the advice.

Does anyone get a Burning / Inflamation Sensation on the Scalp ? Around the thinning balding areas on the scalp ?? what is this sensation ? Is it anxiety or nasty DHT killing precocious hair which we once had and want to keep ? Its strange... i sometimes feel it on the thinning crown and then othertimes i feel it in the mid scalp. Seems to come and go. Gets a lot worse when you feel anxious or get into a bad mood. Also strange this is... my scalp feels like this in the area if my nanofibre has warn off. Like a strange pre warning to go check it and top it up. I dont know if im the only one but im always checking my hair in the mirror about a million times a day. Doesnt help the situation that i have Obessive Compulsive Disorder. Which makes that having hair loss a lot more stressful. Worrys me until i feel sick. "dreads the day when i have to shave my head after having long hair my whole life"

Hi Frank, Thanks for the reply.. Is proscar effective ??... Is it as good as propecia ? Yeah i will book to see the doctor next week. Im going to see a male doctor as i feel it will be a lot easier to talk about rather than a female doctor. Silly i know but yeah. I dont know if they will know much about it but no doubt they will understand are worry as no doubt they get all sorts of stuff like guys asking for viagra etc. No doubt they have seen and heard it all by now. i dont know about you but yeah the hairloss has worried me on and off for years. Makes you feel sick with worry to be honest. The last 12 months its become a real issues i have to do something about. It wouldnt be so bad if i didnt have long hair all my life. If i shave it off people are going to spin out and ask why? Not looking forward to it at all. I dont know how long this nanogen nanofibres will conceal it for. Like i dont know how fast it will shed. Anyway back to the subject. Frank, what are you using or doing at the moment to try and holt or stop the dreaded baldness ?? Im curious. Have you tried Rogaine ? If so, has it worked ? Has your problem just started recently or has it been an on going thing for awhile and you have decided to tackle it now like im doing ? rogine makes my hair greasy. I placed on another thread if anyone has tried out nanogen nanogaine ?? ive tried out nanfibres and it works good with the mist spray. I have also tried out nanothick but it doesnt seem to do a lot. Makes your hair feel a bit weird. But yeah im still waiting on NFI (national hair institute) to get back to me. I will let you know what they say. But if they qoute me 11 grand well as dissapointing as it sounds i dont have that kinda cash. Will be interesting to see if i can get my hands on propecia to see if and how it works. And to see if there is any growth from it. But at the moment i dont have high hopes. Silly as it sounds but im going to really miss my long hair.. well hair all together. lol. Sorry tried to throw in some humour. talk soon frank thanks for the replys

Nanogen Nanogaine ?? Does it work like Rogaine ? has anyone tried it ?? it says it doesnt contain alcohol like other brands. ive tried Rogaine twice and it makes my hair really annoyingly greasy. i had thick long, very long hair all my life. Half way down my back and was known by everyone for having so. Even had a massive fringe that girls would call cylops. Even the girls used to be jealous of my long hair that would naturally form what they called "ringlets".. they loved them. Been loosing hair on the crown since i was 22... but the last 12 months ive been thinning a lot on top and big space on the mid scalp. Wish i knew about propecia back in 1996. I sort of have long hair, weird lately the sides still grew past my shoulders nearly half way down my back. Makes for my frustration why it can grow down the sides and not my back. Rest of me is hairy all over but on top. Weird. I use a concealer, nanogen nanofibres. But i seem to use one container each 3 days. But yeah the hair loss is accelerating fast. It sux majorly and worries me. I dont go out anymore. When i do i feel like everyone is looking at me. Which doesnt help. Im holding out until october this year for my brothers wedding. In the hope i still have hair and can conceal the thinning bald spots for the photos. After that im afraid i may have to shave it off. Its going to be a very very sad day. I will hate it big time after always wanting and enjoying long hair all my life. I was going to buy a hair piece but have been thinking hard and long about it. Read some articles on this forum about them which make good points. I saw one old guy in the supermarket today and thought "not for me.. its so obvious. I would be more paranoid wearing one". All those years being hassled for having long hair and some girls saying they wont date me because of it. Now the complete opposite. People hassling me for being bald and girls not wishing to date me. I cant win. Anyway sorry im woffling on.. back to the subject does Nanogen Nanogaine ?? Does it work like Rogaine ?

hi.. thanks for the reply yes it is expensive huh. But if it works it is well worth it huh. Wonder if propecia is on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) or if you can get it cheaper with a health care or pension card ? if not... chemist warehouse say they give cheaper perscriptions. Im going to make an appointment with my local GP doctor to ask questions. They would know better than anyone i guess. Hey frank have you looked into a Hair transplant ?? Im waiting to hear back from National Hair institute. Ive sent them pics. Shall be interesting to see what they say. No doubt 7 grand plus. Also thinking of contacting doctor knusden and ask them for an opinion. Is there a large percentage of any hair regrowth taking propecia ??

So .. does anyone know were and how to get propecia in Australia ? is it as easy as going to your GP doctor and asking them for it to and control the loss of hair ?? is propecia on the government subsidie list ? So you can get it cheaper ? looking forward to someones advice ? thanks

Propecia in Australia ? Where and how to get it ? just wondering how and where you get it ? do you have to see a doctor at a general practice to get it ? does it work well ?? ive been slowley loosing hair since i was 22.. last 6 to 12 months its thinning in the part section, crown and temples. Wondering if propecia would help. was considering and transplant straight up with National Hair institute. I have emailed them pics and they said they would get back to me next week. But i figure i should explore less drastic measures. i have been to a trichologist and they didnt give me any advice but to see a doctor. recently discovered this forum and it helps a lot. was wondering what was the best method for thinning hair in the middle part section of the head, crown and temples. Ive had long hair all my life and if possible would like to keep it asap. sides are down past my shoulders. Used to have thick hair but yeah thin on top. Im currently only using nanogen fibres with locking mist which seems to conceal well. i went about a hair piece the other week and was qouted $1200.. but later thought it will most likely look un-natural and silly. Also it was a clip in and may fall off. Major embarresing. anyway sorry ... back to the subject.. were do i get finistride or propecia ??? thanks all