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Unfortunately they apparently do not budge once the initial graft estimate has been made and sent by e-mail, even when I told them how much my anticipated remaining donor was, they still persisted with an estimate that was over my stated donor supply (with the acknowledged caveat that actual donor inspection was required as stated above).

 

For others who have gone with them, if you end up having less grafts than their initial estimate, do they still try to make you pay for the higher graft amount?

 

If it's their way of ensuring a "minimum surgery charge" then I can somewhat understand. Otherwise I'm not ever going with them, as I don't want to end up paying for more grafts than needed and or being talked into a surgery approaching over-harvesting.

I was origionally quoted the usual 4500 but when I went for live consultation the numbers actually dropped , I'm currently emailing to see if I can drop the numbers even further and it's looking very promising , despite what a lot of people think Asmed are very cooperative with patients plans and don't just blast 5000 grafts into everybody , the only real way to get definite numbers is to have a live consultation pictures only give an idea of hairloss patterns they don't allow for caliber or donor density etc .

What evidence exactly would you like? All I was suggesting is that people be vigilant about "dense" packing.

 

If it were merely a smear campaign then the surgeon would have been named in my initial post.

 

I was trying to understand the process and to see if anyone had any similar experiences.

Pictures are usually sufficient

Thanks for your reply , just goes to show how being conservative in the placement of the hairline is the way to go especially if future loss is obviously apparent . Thanks again , keep the results coming

Wow !! I bet this young man never even dreamed of getting this trendy hairstyle back !! He looks to have a pretty good donor and hair characteristics but that doesn't detract from just how good this result is .... Simply outstanding and I'd say the yield/regrowth was definitely up there in the high 90% rate not sure why anybody would go for a fut surgery when this can be achieved with fue!! fingers crossed he sticks with the meds .

Well done all at medikemos

Once again beautiful work and presentation, please may I ask with the patient being only on minoxidil and not finasteride was the doctor confident that this man will keep the existing native hair in his bridge area between the front and the vertex ? We're measures taken to allow for if this patient looses the bridge area ? And will he be able to cover future loss even after he has potentially 2000 grafts in the vertex ? Very interested in how a plan is made to keep things looking natural even if further loss occurs later in life ? Thanks

Would love to hear back from the clinic on my above questions please .

Hi , this is a really nice natural result can you tell me a little more about this result was it fue or fut ? What was the patients hair caliber in microns ? What kind of numbers do you think this patient has left in his donor ? Does the patient use any hairloss medications ? Thanks

And still no evidence ?

Only what I've heard but his clinic is not as hygienic as it could be , i.e. Performing surgeries without a face mask on and no shoes on in some cases which some may seem as not a problem as long as the result is good but to be honest I'm not blown away by his results , on one of his recent posts I questioned his use of concealers/hair fibres in the results pictures which was pretty obvious to anybody his reply was that he would supply a video comb through of the patient at his 12 month follow up , my guess is the patient doesn't come in for his 12 month follow up

Anyway it's only my opinion I too was initially interested in dr vories but after research I crossed him off my list , I'm down to 3 Lorenzo , lupanzula , erdogan my main thing is to try and get a. Surgeon that performs the main parts of the surgery himself and not technicians and if the 3 I've mentioned lupanzula is the only one . Will be good to meet him in jan and get a consultation I've had consultations with both other surgeons .

I've also been looking at another Spanish surgeon dr Juan couto he's got some great videos on YouTube , just very little by the way of patient testimonials and a very Spanish website . I've sent an email to try and make contact but not heard anything back .

Out of interest would you not go back to hdc ?

Hi Peabody , do you think you've lost hair since your first surgey? If your looking for super soft hairlines check out dr lupanzula in Brussels ! I'm hoping to see him in London in January for consultation . I personally would avoid dr vories

Huge congratulations to all the team , from what I see the award was well deserved !! The video above is a life changing result for the young man who had obviously been through a very traumatic experience ! It must be a very rewarding part of your job

Once again beautiful work and presentation, please may I ask with the patient being only on minoxidil and not finasteride was the doctor confident that this man will keep the existing native hair in his bridge area between the front and the vertex ? We're measures taken to allow for if this patient looses the bridge area ? And will he be able to cover future loss even after he has potentially 2000 grafts in the vertex ? Very interested in how a plan is made to keep things looking natural even if further loss occurs later in life ? Thanks

Try your best to stick with the meds mate , i had the same concerns when I started on them 7?years ago .... 3 kids later and no known sides other than keeping my hair in place

Hi all just bumping this thread , I'd be really interested if anyone knows anymore info on dr Juan couto also . He's just started putting some recent results on his YouTube channel and they look outstanding ! I've emailed the clinic but no reply yet , if anyone knows any details i.e.:current price ? Motorised or manual extraction ? But Most importantly does he offer a surgeon led surgery or does he have technicians performing the extractions etc ... if I can make contact with the clinic I'll update any info I find out

As always the work looks super clean and refined , out of interest are you on meds ? Really look forward to watching this result develop

Hi zim , I'm pretty sure medikemos (dr lupanzula) is 4.50 euros for the first 1000 and 4 euros for any after the first 1000 , not sure if the price stays at 4 euros for any further procedures in the future like Lorenzo offers . Either way I'm taking the opportunity to meet him in London so will be able to ask any questions anyone has . The result you've posted from Asmed is incredible, do you think your donor characteristics are as strong as that guy though ?

There is actually a pretty big world of good/decent surgeons that aren't known on this site. You'll need to do a bit of digging and research but cast your net pretty wide for sure. Some names that might interest you that are in your price range:

 

Maras

Lupanzula

Chueco (Argentina-based colleague of Lorenzo)

Marwan Saifi

Juan Couto

Rafael De Freitas

 

Also check out Dr Ball in England, I don't know how good he is, he used to work for Ziering Hair which is not great but he's ramping up after starting his clinic and will likely be more visible on the forums.

Juan couto is a new surgeon that you have brought to my attention , after a quick look at his YouTube videos he looks excellent ! Do you know his prices ? His website seems to be only in Spanish ? Cheers

Do you not feel compelled to name the surgeon to help others ??

Hey KO ,out of interest what is it that you like about Saifi ?

Have a serious look into dr lupanzula (medekimos) he's just started posting on here so there are only a few of his cases to view on here but there loads of videos on YouTube if your search medikemos . I was totally sold on erdogan as well and I went to a live consultation with him in London last may . Sounds like I'm similar to yourself in wanting a conservative approach rather than blasting 3/4 of my donor in the hairline ! The hairline he drew in for me was lower than I'd ever had even as a kid ! He proposed 3800 grafts , when I asked him if I could go more conservative he said yes and upped the count to 4200 !! Obviously this was a miscommunication but I couldn't explain as the consultation lasted all of 7 minutes after waiting 2.5 hours to see him

Now I'm not denying that his work looks very impressive and I potentially still may go there for my first surgery if things don't work out at my consultation with dr lupanzula this January in London (you should contact them to get a consultation?) but it just seems that doctor erdogan is not as overly concerned about future loss as some of the other top docs . I may even go for a consultation with him in Istanbul to see if it would be possible to do the hairline I want rather than the straight one he drew in London .

I personally wouldn't go anywhere near the 1 Euro Turkish clinics the results hygiene etc etc are just not good enough .

These are currently the only doctors I would go to for my first surgery .

Dr Jose Lorenzo = quite pricey but an extensive catalogue of work to be viewed on YouTube/Vimeo unfortunately now he does 3-4 surgeries per day and more just oversees the operations rather than 1 on 1 with each patient , still superb results that speak for themselves.

Dr lupanzula = slightly more than the price you are looking for but you may not need the amount of grafts that you would be pushed into having in turkey so might even out ? He also extracts every graft creates all incisions and then checks over and tweaks (if required) grafts that are placed by his experienced technicians , I'm pretty sure it's a 1 surgery per day so you have the whole teams attention .

Dr erdogan = excellent price and loads of documented excellent results just concerns of over use of a limited donor even on young patients who are unmedicated with finasteride , the clinic is absolute state of the art and hygiene impeccable but you are still 1 of 4 patients and the only part performed by dr koray are the incisions .

After all my research I think I personally would prefer the man with the qualifications and his name on the door to do my surgery but obviously cost is a big factor and if you can get the same results for less then why not.

I'm going to post on here for advice once I've had my consultation with dr lupanzula in january then it will be decision time for me :confused:

I will have then had live consultations with all 3 doctors that I am considering .

Hope I've helped in some way .

Can you please tell me was it the choice of the doctor or patient to do this surgery in 2 seperate surgeries ? What was the reason for this as it seems dr Koray is happy to perform these numbers usually in one surgery split over 2 days ? Thanks

Wow !! Elvis has entered the building !! Well done

Very sad news , r i p Alex

Hi Giuseppe , Would be great to see some top down pictures please ? Or pictures of the shaved down donor area ? Is this patient on meds ? He seems to have lost ground in the vertex since his first procedure but it's hard to tell from these pictures ? Have a look at dr lupanzula (medikimos) reccent posts to see how your results should be presented

Yea all looks good at this early stage , really looking forward to watching this develop

Thanks for your reply , was it still 1.25 Euro per graft ?