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telepinu, thanks for the answer, maybe i couldn't explain myself because of my bad english, i'm on propecia for 3 months now but those arousal effects has been going on for a month. By the way this may sound very ignorant but is there any correlation between ejaculation (sex or masturbation) and hair loss?

hi everyone, im 23 and i started propecia 3 months ago.at first 2 weeks i felt like i had some side effects but later on it dissapeared. but it disappeared in very interesting way. for the last month, i've never felt that "horny" (sorry for my bad english, i couldn't find any other word for it) in my entire life. I'm like a 14 year old teen , constantly wanting to masturbate or have sex. and by the way, my hair loss haven't stopped a bit and i'm constantly loosing hair and thinning. My question is, although i really don't wanna see the side effects of propecia,i'm not seeing any effect at all. Do I have a sort of testesterone problem ? Why doesn't propecia work? ps: since ?± have no problems in my crown, I haven't seen any effects on that area either.

sparse, 5.5 months and looking at your pics... WOW, you look incredible! by the way, in my opinion short hair would look much more better on you, maybe you can have a cut short as your first pic at H&W. aynway thats only my opinion and you can do whatever u want since you have hair now! congats again!

thank you very much everyone for your sincere replies. why o why, the thing you said about skinny girls is i think my main problem. I know i lost a lot of hair but everytime I see someone from highschool that i haven't seen for a while (like 2-3 years) say "you haven't changed a bit." i never got any words like "bald" or "balding" , and i havent really felt like it 2-3 months ago. But I don't know what happened ,suddenly i became into this inconfident loser guy that i don't wanna spend the rest of my life with. Bleachcola12, Thank you for the courage but eventhough this is a hair "transplant" web site , my major concern is about the "confidence" and ego. I really don't want to think all the time about my hair and get my old self confidence back , thats all. I've seen some magnificent and life changing results in this site , i've learned A LOT from this forum and for me the first thing i learned is that having a bad HT is worse than being bald. That's the risk i really don't want to take. Also since im 23 and the days when i was NW0 was not so far, my expectations will be very high and no HT will fulfill this. Thus I'm very lucky to have the financial capabilities to go anywhere to have the operation done but as i said my main concern is about my self confidence. The point is, I wanna look into mirror and say "you look good". I believe everything comes from inside and if you can reflect your self confidence to outside, the rest will come up( i mean about girls of course ) But thats the part i'm failing and I need to get that back and i really like opinions and thoughts to help me overcome this.

firstly, sorry for this kind of depressing post but i'm really desperate for some help. I'm 23, NW 3. All the men in my family are basically now NW 5-6, so i know where i'm gonna end up. The thing is I'm really starting to loose my pschological health because of this. Everytime I saw myself into mirror all I can think of that this can't be me. I can't go out, I can't sleep, I can't hang out with my friends because I feel like I have something missing, like sort of defficency.I can't even talk to a girl,I have nothing left in my self confidence,I feel like I'm gonna die all by myself , even at this age(by the way, I was really very social and considered goodlooking guy with extreme ego when I was in high school)At the street or when I'm talking with someone else, I feel paranoid that everyone is constantly looking at me,my hair. Some days it becomes so bad that I got into a panic attack and nerve crysis that I can't go out(agoraphobia I guess) I constantly look at my reflection in various occasions, in some I see my self good and that day goes well with me, if I don't see any other reflections that shows otherwise. Photos on my passport or ID are from 3 years ago so when I see one of them I feel like crying because there are no signs of hair loss on those days. Some peole around me always say this will pass , but only think I certainly know is my baldness will get worse, which I can't even imagine what I'm gonna feel when I'll be NW6.by the way , I started prophecia 3 months ago,seems like it slowed down the loss but I have no problem in crown area. I do respect all of you in this forum that had HT and happy with their results, evethough I'm in this site for like 6 months I'm still confused about the idea. It sucks to be at my age and at my hair loss because it feels like there's nothing you can do about it. I'm too young to have a HT, that's the fact. And eventhough I'd do it, I will look like a freak in 2-3 years with losing more of my native hair. But also the main problem is i feel like ?±'m too young to go through such a thing.I'm just a young guy, but now i feel like im 40 on the inside. So, I feel like I'm stuck really and have no one to talk to about this. Maybe some of you will share your thoughts about this and help me go through this phase. I'll really apreciate some advices and maybe some experiences that are similar to mine.

hello, i can be considered new to this site so i couldn't find a way to directly get in touch with you but i'm sure some of the members are curious about this. are you and Pat planning to visit anywhere in Europe? Recently I was reading about adding Dr. Keser in recommended surgeons so any plans to come to Turkey? If so, please let me know that I'd be more than deligted to meet with you ( and Pat of course) which for me will be like meeting a celebrity

I think everthing under this concerns lies in the word "confidence". I'm now 23 years old NW 3 scale. I started to loose when I was 20 , never got a big concern until 2-3 months ago. I don't know what happened but when I looked at the mirror that day i shouted myself "damn i'm bald".Maybe that day, a pal sent me some photos from high school and when i comparec myself to that, i looked like s..t. I have 4 uncles plus my father , and their sons are around ages 30-40.As you can guess , all of them are nw5-6(exept one, lucky bastard). My dad was the luckiest , started to loose in late 30's and nw 4-5 today. One of my cousins who I have the deepest relationship with is the one I admire. He was nw 4-5 when he was 22, after his military service.(nowadays he's 40)first i thought he was lying but when I saw the pictures ( there is this one with him and me taken in 1996 ,he was 26 and I was 9) i was like "wow , he is bald." When I asked him how did his years bw 20s-30s went , he said wonderful, told me that he never lost the confidence of himself any bit. (he dated a lot of girls ,never got married, nowadays he's with this girl 10 years younger than him and she's damn beautiful!) The reason I write this is that I got into a serious depression 2-3 months ago, taking bunch of anti-depressants and literay locked my self at home(still going on). 2 years ago I was completely a social butterfly guy, parting , dating, going out a lot but now i can't believe the man that i turned into. I can't even look at myself at the mirror, constantly avoiding even any reflections from windows or such. I know I'm going a bit far off from the topic but all I'm tring to say is the "confidence" is the key word in this situation. Still, I'm trying to deal with it, it has become a battle to me but still strugling a lot. however, this is a thing I should have to live with the rest of my life. Again, sorry to go off from the topic that much and if I cause any disturb.

thanks Bill for your answer but nowadays i can't be able to reach my doc. do you(or anyone else in the forum) know anything about paxil or tranxilene causes hair loss?

Hi everyone, Can somebody please tell me the correlation between anti-depressants and hair loss? I'm using propecia for like 2 months but I started using paxil and tranxilene for about 3 weeks now.My hair loss seems decreased with propecia but not stopped. If there is any one who can clearly explain this relation I will be very happy.

SJD, Eventhough I'm not as bald as you , I'm 24 NW3 and believe me I completely understand what you're going through. I'm certain that all the guys in this forum are doing their best to support you with their honest opinions, it's impossible to understand for some of them to feel what is like to be bald at that age and how that effects social life. I was excactly like you 3-4 months ago that I have to have the hair that I used to when I was 16 but clearly that is impossible,sorry. First I heard this I became really depressed but some realty u can't escape, right? I agree with most of the guys, do your research very well, get in online (but I strongly suggest face-to face) consultations , but with only top docs that are highly recomended. Being bald is one thing but having a terrible HT is much worse I think. As far as looking your pattern, Hasson&Wong seems to be the best option. Remember, I'm not suggesting to get a HT or not, I'm more like whatever makes you happy kind of guy , but don't forget the consequences of having one.

excuse my ignorance this may sound very stupid but it just came up to my mind and wondering if its possible. suppose that you used all your donor hair via strip(lets say 8000 grafts) and still density is not what you're hoping for. is it possible that you can have some donor hair from the places above the ear( since you do not loose them at all)? if so, what is the max number you can get? again, this may sound stupid and ignorant but i'm really curious about it.

wow man you look great!, really jealous of u by the way I'm 23 years old considering,and I agree on every word u say. My first option in my mind is Rahal, so could you give more info about your hair density, thickness, etc..?

hi all, I'm 23, considering HT. However , I'm very curious about the studies about hair cloning and having a infinitive amount of donor hair. Has anyone knew the recent technologies and researches about this? Will that be possible some day??

hey man, your hair looks amazing man , for 7 months is turly amazing. I'm 23 and NW3, planning on HT. You gave me lot of courage. Keep us posted.

in my opinion they seem like they are the best in the world with what they've done so far. But which one is better , Hasson or Wong?

mattj, I think from what i've seen in my researches, great doctors such as (in my opinion of course) Rahal, Hasson&Wong, Feller makes a great density which gives the best results. Since you're an online consultant , I wanna ask if someone could achieve the same density in transplanted area as same as the donor area?

i was really planning on opening a topic about this Last week when I talked with Adrian from Rahal clinic, he told me that Dr. Rahal will be able to graft app. 60-70/cm2 on my frontal hairline.He gave me this information based on the numbers that i've taken from my face to face consultation in Istanbul.(told me that i've app. 80/cm2 in my donor area).So I want to ask which one is true, %50 of overall donor or what Adrian told me. I believe Dr.Rahal is true magician, but also some doctors gives really crappy results with density of 25-35/cm2 eventhough donor is capable of much more. Also could someone with transplants share their density no's ?

hello everyone, Really thanks that all of you have encouraged me and most importantly make me feel like i'm not alone,especially thanking thanatopsis_awry,Swampdonkey, BeHappy and wanthairs.So I booked a consultation from Dr.Melike Kulahci for today and went out like an hour age. I went there about 5 minutes to my appointment(14:55). Everything about the place was nice,fresh and classy and the lady at the reception was friendly. I filled a information form and started waiting, about like 10-15 minutes. After that, they take me to Dr. Kulahci's office. She was very friendly in encouraging manner, listened all my questions and answered them (i believe) honestly. She explained my options about various types of treatments. Since I'm 23 , she told me that it is too young for an transplant and offered me a treatment named "reversa".I really don't have any idea about it and she also added that if I wished ,she could to transplant(FUE) about 1200 grafts. At the end, she didn't fee any charge for consultation, which is good for someone just to have an idea. So, as a result, I'm not sure how i feel about this. It was very good in a sense that I had some ideas and some numbers (by the way my donor density was 80 /cm2, exactly 76,22 that i saw in her pc) from a professional without a charge. On the other hand, I really don't know anything about this "reversa" treatment and she suggested 1200 fu's (when I sent some pictures to rahal clinic, Adrian was talking about app.2500 grafts) which I thought is very less. Also she was suggesting to have like bw 25-35/cm2 will be enough to cover up the baldness , but I believe in having the most natural look with great density.Also she was encouraging about FUE, which I believe have worse results than FUT, when I told her about it she agreed with me but she was concerning about the scar. It made me feel like they do not give a good results about the scar. So at the end, it does a little repulsive for me to prefer this place. She was talking in a manner that it's something that can be decided easily, or i just felt it like that because this will be the biggest decision in my life. On the other hand, it's very informative to get some knowlegde from a good doctor. So i'm planning on getting more consultation from different doctors to increase my knowledge about it. By the way, what do you guys think about my donor hair as 80/cm2? Is it good? It's also brown and normal thickness.

thanks for your reply guys, especially swampdonkey,wanthairs and behappy since they share the same feelings for losing hair at a very young age. swampdonkey, i completely agree with you when you say it's nonsense to wait until your 40's. Recently, i've started to contact with Rahal Clinic and next week i'll have a consultation with Melike Kulahci in my hometown Istanbul. So basicaly, i started the process of "hair transplant", still confused about it. Wanthairs, i really thank you man for your advice and believe me i've tried that once and it really looks shitty on me to be bald. If not, i would not even think about any transplant because i have a good friend who shares similar (even more hair loss) with me who sahves his head and really looks good! If I'd look like Bruce Willis or Jason Statham , i'd definetely shave my hair but unfortunately i cannnot. So i really want to keep in touch with you guys since we share the similar experiences and i believe excact opinions about this. thank you again for the replies bros, please keep me posted.

i know this is completely subjective question but who is your top 5 according to the experiences/results seen in pic?

and also i'd like to add another question, in a web site i saw that there is a higher probability to max out of a donor hair in fue than strip. it shocked me because i knew it was opposite. could anyone tell the truth about it?

thanks everyone for the replies everyone. since my english is not so good , i saw that i cannot able to exptess myself clearly. what i meant was while i saw some magnificents results, i saw some shitty ones too. i'm a 23 year old with constantly receeding hairline while everything was perfect last year. and i'm terrified, scared and mainly depressed. I'm just curious about how come some results such as http://hair-restoration-info.c...66060861/m/691108651 and http://hair-restoration-info.c...66060861/m/846107734 occur with such amazing while mostly others can't? also , i didn't see any photo that shows a different hair styles especially making the transplanted hair drop to forehead. can any one do that and post some photos?

hey sparky ,what do you mean by unexpected results?

i've been browsing on this web site nearly about for 2-3 months and it's been really helpful. But as i searched and looked to the results , i can't help myself think that there is no "perfect" result with this. Can someone prove me that i'm wrong? because i need to believe in that way. Is there someone who has reached the exact (at least %90) close to his hair when he was 19 ?

thank you very much for the reply thanatopsis you've been really helpful. Any other ones that thinks i should have a HT at age 23 ?