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Thanks for the good post Dr. Mejia.

Hey guys,

But can you get more grafts from FUT? If a person wants, lets say 2500 now and might recede later and need another 3000 in the next 10 years, would there be enough without a choppy look using FUE? or should he go for FUT? (on an average person)

In my practice it is more efficient and cost effective do a 2500 to 3500 graft case in one day With FUT. THe 12 hour cases as noted above for fue are long and tiring for both patient and doctor. I can not do as many grafts in one day with the fue than I could with fut. Consequently I personally prefer the FUT method. The primary purpose to FUE is for those patients that prefer to avoid a linear line and are ok doing it in stages with added expense.

Thank you Dr. Mejia for your candid response. What in your opinion would be a healthy maximum FUE procedure for one day/session? Would you then advise the patient to wait 8 months for the next stage or do you think the day after is safe to continue a big FUE procedure when trying for maximum yield?

Thanks.

Thanks Guys, Thanks Joe,

After doing these exercises the skin in the back of my scalp will become looser giving the doctor more to work with (even starting with a tight scalp).

OR is this only really to help the doctor get more grafts to work with and wont necessarily effect the possibility of reducing the scar stretching if I have a naturally tight scalp?

Just want to make sure I understand.

Thanks, M.

The results from both FUT transplants was very helpful for my situtation, but I never appreciated the size and permanent nature of the scar that is left behind. It means anytime I cut my hair too short (2 guard) the scarring is visible. Not to mention for my scalp the hairline near the scar no longer lays naturally flat. Lastly, I really do not like the invasive nature of FUT now that I have had it done twice -- cutting you from 'ear to ear'.

Yes! This is why people are looking to FUE. It's good to be reminded again of the potential downsides of FUT scarring. I keep hearing how FUT scars are not detectable and not a big issue. I guess there are lucky ones who get away with small scars that work for them but it's a gamble.

Good luck with the FUE grafts. treat them well and good growing. Keep us updated!

M.

Hey,

Just wondering about Laxity.

The skin on the back of my head is TIGHT. It doesn't move around very much at all when I try with my thumbs.

Does this mean that if I go FUT my scar is more likely to stretch?

thank god i flew home on day 1 after the procedure before the swelling started on my face

Hi cuball35,

Do you men you flew home the day of the procedure? or the next morning?

I was wondering about when might be best to fly after a procedure. Was it hard to fly so soon after?

...And isn't it true that a FUT scar can stretch at any time even years later?

also I see them pretty high on the head a lot of times meaning that when these guys get into their 60's-70's those scars might become visible around the sides. no?

Lets see some pics of FUE with the hair grown out and noticeable shredding or over harvesting. This guy probably wears his hair a little longer in real life.

This is terrible to read. I hope you guys get some money back or something. is there anything you can do?

In androgenic alopecia, the hair loss is progressive and areas surrounding the implanted grafts may be in some state of permanent loss. Because of this, these hairs may completely shed or become very thin and appear nearly invisible during the time that the newly implanted hairs are growing and thickening. These hairs, if left untreated, ARE likely to shed and not return, and I think it is safe to say that they would "fall out anyway."

Thanks Blake, Yea this is what I'm wondering about because when I do take the plunge the doctor will need to be implanting around hairs in a "thinning area". Im just trying to determine (or guess) how much I will potentially lose because of the HT process in that area. Or if those hairs may have stayed a few more years before eventually falling out. I guess the answer depends on many factors.

I'm still trying to figure it all out before I have a procedure done. Don't want to leave anything to chance, although so much of life is just that.

Thanks for the help on this journey. M.

Hi Blake,

Yea I was wondering about permanent loss. How in some cases it seems the natural pattern of the hairline (even if it is receded) is lost to a bigger area that has been transplanted into that may look less natural.

And those shocked hairs that were lost are always described as "ones that would have fallen out anyway". I was wondering how one would know when they would have fallen out? could it be YEARS down the line? is there anyway to tell? (that's kind of a silly question but what the heck) Thanks, M.

Very nice. Natural looking. great placement.

Always good to see some really positive FUE results!

Whenever shockloss is discussed I always hear that it may effect the surrounding hairs "that would have fallen anyway" (in time).

Ive been wondering if someone has a thinning area that is slowly going bald over the years, how would he know if these "hairs that were would have fallen out anyway" might have stayed for another 3 years or more? Wouldn't transplanting into that area be a step backward potentially?

Then we would be talking about a 2nd procedure to fill what the first procedure may have shocked. I see this in some larger FUE cases. The natural hair pattern (however thin) is replaced by a big area that is less natural to the eye and needs more work to look full or natural again.

Any thoughts?

M.

Thanks Blake.

Rats!

I keep hoping I'll find out that FUE is the ultimate answer.

It is hard to disregard the words of Spex. The guy has seen more than probably any of us.

I sit somewhere on the line..need about 2500-3000 hairs. Dont want the scar and have noticed that my scalp is pretty tight naturally so I have to consider possible stretching. but a FUE mega-session sounds risky too.

The research continues!

Thanks Spex, thanks guys.

Good thread.

M.

So maybe 2 fue procedures would be best of all.

#1 to get 80% of what a FUT surgery would yield

#2 to get the last 20%

It would cost more and take more time, but you would avoid a lifelong linear scar with the possibility of stretching.

I got ganged up on and thrown off Hair Loss Help forum about three years or four years ago. I am not proud of it, It does me no good to mention in either - but simply I was being honest, but certain Umar shills (boy that is a wolf's lair) and the moderator deemed me as...I dunno...not good for business. It is just soo tricky on the boards..

In many cases of hair transplantation some kind of shock loss occurs, and it usually occurs to miniaturized hairs that would have fallen out anyway

Ive been wondering this also. I have a thinning area that is slowly going bald (over the years). How do I know if these "hairs that were would have fallen out anyway" might have stayed for another 3 years or more? Wouldnt transplanting into that area be a step backward potentially?

Then we would be talking about a 2nd procedure to see what the first procedure may have shocked. I see this in some larger FUE cases. The natural hair pattern (however thin) is replaced by a big area that is less natural to the eye and needs more work to look full or natural again. Any thoughts?

Hi polancec,

Sorry to hear about your loss. That must be tough.

You are young and should NOT be considering a HT. Seriously, when people get Hair Transplants they have to deal with a LOT of extra stress/money loss/6 months looking really bad/multiple procedures.

My advise to you....walk away. Dont do it. Use that money you've saved for something positive that will really make you feel good. Maybe a trip or something. You don't need a HT now.

What you CAN do now is start taking propecia. It has really helped me stabilize my hair loss and is way less expensive/traumatic than a HT. Its also easy and will give you time to see how your hair naturally grows over the next years. If in your 30's you see some real loss you could check back on this forum and others. By then the advances in surgery will be many times better and you will be in a much better position to deal with any hair loss.

Good luck buddy, M.

Hi Logo,

I have been using propecia for the last few years and it has really stabilized my hair loss all around. I take 1 mg a day and try not to miss to many. I would suggest you really keep that as a part of your routine. Especially after a HT you need to be on the meds to keep things looking right from what I've read.

The more I research, the more it seems almost standard that no one gets away with just one HT. Its always seems to take a few to get a solid/lasting result.

Could be that the hair after 17 months just naturally got thinner around the HT. Could be some weird delayed shockloss but I've never heard of that happening. You should talk to your Doc, maybe he'll give you a deal on the 2nd procedure. Good luck, M

If you go to a HT doctor and have a procedure and it results in a terrible infection and poor growth why on earth would you go back to that doctor?

If I were the OP I would ask for all of my money back and go see another doctor.

I agree with that...seriously after 14 months of feeling terrible who would go back to the same doctor? It may not have been the doctors fault but either way I can understand not wanting to risk it again.

Thanks Bonkerstonker!

Hi shane13,

The results are not in on Johnny24 yet. He's only at about 3+1/2 months growth.

Hard to tell yet how it will turn out, but I hope it goes well. Will he need more grafts to fill density? Will he have the donor left?

I probably need about 3000 grafts myself and I am hoping for FUE....but Im still not 100% sure. Still reading up..

Hi fualopecia ,

Trust me you will want solid hair in your 30's and 40's as well, so be smart with those donor hairs. This is important...

Since you're in your 20s having a transplant on the crown may not be possible, due to the possibility of not having enough donor hair for the crown as well as the front and top

Good luck,

M.