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Can't decide, I totally get that, and I think that doctors should approach theses cases with caution. Thank you for seeing my point as well.

You're completely right, not everyone needs that type of hairline to get a great result. That's not what I'm saying. But there are those of us, like me, and from what I can tell so far, xtatic5 too, who desire that type of hairline to make us happy. So, what I am saying is that in those types of situations, if that's what a patient wants, and the doctor feels that this particular type of procedure is right for them, then they should be able to have it done. However, it seems like almost every time someone comes on the forum and says they want to have their hairline lowered and their temples closed, right away people start posting comments saying how they shouldn't do it, because it won't look appropriate when they're 50, and they need to be conservative for future procedures. It's like they just assume everyone is automatically going to lose more hair later in their lives, and that simply isn't the case. I'm aware that some people may lose their hair later in life, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to. As we all know, hair loss is mostly genetic. Also, I didn't mean that planning for the future by going with a more conservative hairline is a crock. In fact, I clearly said in my last post that I think someone who is at greater risk for future hair loss should absolutely be more conservative with their grafts. Of course that's not a crock, and I think that is the right thing to do in those cases. But again, that doesn't include everyone. There are plenty of people who might experience a little hair loss, and then have it stabilize and never lose any more. And if those people decide they want to restore a more youthful hairline, then that is their right. What is a crock is saying that someone won't look appropriate when they're older if they don't have a more conservative hairline. And that is what a lot of people imply on these forums, whenever a case like xtatic5's comes up. Again, not trying to start a fight, just making a point. How can someone who is older look inappropriate, simply because they have a lower hairline? I stand by my statement that that is a crock, and it is. Some people lose hair, other's don't, so what exactly is appropriate anyway? To say one person looks appropriate because he has a higher hairline and some recession, while another person doesn't because he has a lower hairline with no recession is just crazy. Again, can anyone honestly say that people like Brad Pitt, John Stamos, Bill Clinton, or Richard Gere don't look appropriate for their ages, simply because they have great hairlines? That's ridiculous. Look, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that's just mine. I don't think people should just make comments that suggest lower hairlines don't look good when people get older, because that simply isn't true. There are many people who have great hairlines well into their old age, and they look fine. Some people may agree with me, others may disagree. To each his own.

Yeah, I have to say I've never heard of or seen anyone's far-head drop with age either. I've only ever seen it get higher, when certain people lose more hair. And that isn't the case for everyone either. Not everyone is going to lose hair throughout their whole life. Some people may experience a little hair loss in their 20s, and then have it stabilize. That's the way it was with me. s2thoudriver, I know that there are plenty of bad surgeons out there who will just take a patient's money, and do what ever to them, without considering the future. However, that doesn't describe Dr. Feller or my experience at all, simply because he gave me what I wanted. I experienced my hair loss between the ages of 19 and 22, and then it stopped, and I didn't experience any more for nearly 10 years. So I finally decided to have a procedure done. When my scalp was analyzed, I was told there was no reason to believe I would experience any further hair loss, plus there is no history of baldness in my family. In addition, donor supply wasn't an issue, so there was no reason for me to be conservative. Now I realize that many patients don't fit into my category and can't achieve the same results as I did. In those cases, or in any case a doctor should always be up front and honest about what type of results can be achieved. Of course if someone shows signs that they may experience further hair loss, then they should be more conservative with their grafts and graft placement, and their surgeon should definitely address those issues before any procedure is performed. But in cases like mine I don't see any reason why a doctor can't or shouldn't give the patient what they want. And in my opinion the whole "future appropriate" thing is a crock. It's one thing for a surgeon to be honest with a patient about what can be achieved. Obviously people with extensive hair loss can't and shouldn't expect to get their high school hairline back. But for people who haven't experienced that much, and don't show any signs of experiencing future loss, there's no reason why they can't expect to get what they want. For anyone to say, "Oh, a hairline like that won't look appropriate when you're 50," is just ridiculous. Look at John Stamos and Brad Pitt. They're both 49, and they look amazing. Is anyone really going to say that their hairlines don't look appropriate for their ages? Also, is anybody going to tell me that they'd rather have a hairline like Jude Law or Nicolas Cage rather than one of these guys if given a choice? I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, just making a point, and that is that no matter what age you are, a fuller head of hair always looks better than a thinner or lesser one. Just Google "Ralph Macchio Hair Transplant" and tell me where he looks better, before or after? And he's 51 for the record. Richard Gere is an even better example. He's 63 and still has a fantastic head of hair. I really don't see how anyone looks inappropriate with a full head of hair later in life. I honestly think that's something people with more extensive hair loss came up with to feel better about the limitations of their own procedures. Don't get me wrong, I know most people don't expect to get a hairline like mine and many are completely happy with their results, and rightfully so. I'm not saying everyone should want or expect to get a high school type hairline, but for people to say that a hairline like the one I have won't look age appropriate in the future is just ignorant in my opinion. As for the Michael Jackson reference, I get what you're saying, but that's something completely different. He went way overboard with the amount of things he did to his face to the point where he didn't even look human any more. I only had my hairline lowered some. I still look like me, just a younger and a little better looking version of me. That's all xtatic5 is looking to do as well. Xtatic5, glad to see you're taking your time about making a decision. Like I said earlier, I don't think it would hurt for you to speak with Dr. Feller, even if you decide to go with someone else. I know he'll give you an honest assessment of everything. Again good luck to you, and keep us posted.

Chris, thanks for the compliment. You're right, I had less area to fill in. I did mention that in my previous post, because I wanted to give xatic5 an honest and realistic opinion, particularly about the number of grafts he might need. Xatic5, I don't know, maybe the picture is a bad angle, but it does look like you have a high hairline. Not saying that to insult you or anything. Again, I just want to give you some honest insight as someone who's been through this already. While the hairline you want may only be lowered by 3cm, keep in mind that it has to go across your entire far-head, which makes the total area to be covered quite large. Honestly, for an area that size, I don't think 2500 grafts will cut it. The surgeon might be able to spread them out over the entire area, but I think it will probably look kinda thin and you'll most likely need a second procedure. I'm only telling you this, because I don't want you to be misinformed about anything. That is what I feel happened to me when I consulted for my first procedure. I was originally quoted for 1100 grafts, and actually told that anything more might be too much. So, I was believing that after 1 procedure of 1100 grafts I'd be set. Then, on the day of my surgery I was told I was going too probably need a second procedure. Trust me the 1100 grafts I was given hardly even made a dent. That's when I decided to go see Dr. Feller, who gave me another 2200 on top of the 1100 I already had. And I've actually gone back to him since to add more even more density. Now I should probably mention that I'm not your typical hair transplant patient. First off, I had a lot more hair to begin with than most patients, and only wanted to focus on my hairline. Second, I've heard many patients say that the goal is to achieve 50% of native density. That wasn't my goal though. I'm extremely vain, and a perfectionist, so I wanted to get my density as close to 100% as possible. But my point is that I've had over 4500 grafts put into my hairline region, and I had a smaller area to fill in than you do. Now it all depends on what your goals are. As I said, many patients are happy achieving 50% of their native density. But I honestly believe that even with thick, curly, black hair, 2500 grafts isn't going to be enough for that size area, particularly if you want good density. You could always get the 2500 grafts and then decide if you want a second procedure done, but again, I don't think that amount of grafts will get you what you want. I'm not trying to be negative here, I just want to make sure you have a realistic idea of what you can expect. I really would recommend that you consult with Dr. Feller before making any final decisions. The man is fantastic at what he does, and my experiences with him have been nothing but positive. Plus, it couldn't hurt to get 1 more opinion, especially from a doctor who is recommended by the forum. Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best of luck, and I hope my insight helped a little. Keep us posted.

Hey man, despite what some others might say, I personally don't think your expectations are unrealistic, but there are a few things to consider. First, it looks to me like you're already a Norwood 3. I think you said one of the surgeons told you that you shouldn't progress beyond that, which is a good sign. If that's true, then you shouldn't really have to worry about conserving grafts for later procedures, which would allow you to focus entirely on the frontal region and hairline, like you want to. I'm just curious, have you consulted with Dr. Feller? I've had work done with him, and really can't say enough good things about him. I also wanted to lower my hairline, and have been thrilled with the results. Now let me just say, I was only a Norwood 2, and the area I wanted filled in was a little smaller, but after Dr. Feller determined that I most likely wasn't going to lose any more hair, he had no problem giving me the hairline I wanted. You can read about my experience and see some pictures here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/160946-my-hair-restoration-journey-dr-feller.html Currently my hairline begins 5.5 cm above my eyebrows. Some may think that's too low, but I love it. I've never bought into the whole "Low hairlines don't look appropriate on older men" thing. Guys like Brad Pitt, Richard Gere & Bill Clinton all look fine to me. So, if you really want to lower your hairline I think you should definitely at least consult with Dr. Feller. If he determines that you shouldn't experience more hair loss in the future, I'm sure he can help you. There's one other thing you should know though. To cover an area the size of the one you showed in your picture, you're going to need more than 2500 grafts. I'd say you'll probably need closer to 5000 to get really good density. Good luck man.

I know how hard the waiting part can be, but you have to try and relax and be patient. 2 months is way too early to try and judge results. You most likely won't see anything start until about 4 months, and even then, it's still early. The 4 month mark is usually when hair starts growing in, and in the months that follow more will come, and the hair will satrt to mature. You won't see a final result till about 1 year. The waiting is the hardest part, but hang in there.

I have to say, Dr. Feller, I agree with FUEmaster. I don't think the pictures on your website do you any justice either. In fact, they don't even begin to. Don't get me wrong, there are some nice results, but I think many of the pictures we see here on the forum show off just what you're actually capable of. A lot of the pics I saw on here were definitely one of the influences that persuaded me to come to you. Just my thoughts. Great work on this patient too. Talk to you soon.

Honestly, I think the reason you haven't seen anyone mention it, is because it doesn't happen. The only way the shape of someone's face may appear to change a little is when they have a new hairline created, and that's because of how the hairline frames the face. The actual shape of the face does not change. A person may experience some post-op swelling in the face, but that always goes down in a few days time. The strip they remove from the donor area doesn't affect the skin on your face at all. Biscuit and Dr. Charles both bring up very good points.

Hey man, I was in the same boat as you. I went to Dr. Feller, and had a great experience, and terrific results. He evaluated me, listened to what I had to say, and even let me design the hairline. You can read about my experience here (Scroll down for pics). http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/160946-my-hair-restoration-journey-dr-feller.html Good luck with everything.

Hey, sorry to hear about your situation. After reading your post, I checked out some of their advertisements on Youtube, and just like you said, it never makes any mention of wigs. In fact, I don't know if you saw this one, but people in it actually say they are receiving laser treatment and regrowing their own hair. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VjnkbhXnXA&feature=related Maybe it can help serve as some evidence in your case against them. Hope it works out for you.

I was never told to actually remove them. Basically yeah, the post-op instructions I received just said resume your normal hair washing, and don't be afraid to massage the grafts as it is important to keep both the donor and transplanted area clean. It also said you will see the tops of the grafts scab up and start to fall off, and that this is normal. I was also told it was ok to do what I did, and roll my finger tips over the scabs to help remove them from the grafts. However, I only did this when the scabs had already started to come off on their own, which was I'd say around day 5-6. I was never told to actually remove the scabs, and I never have. I just let them begin to fall off on their own, and rolled my finger tips over them to help them along a little.

Bonkerstonker - I followed my post-op instructions, which were to take a normal shower on the 4th day after surgery. However, I wouldn't say I've ever "aggresiively" removed any scabs. I applied shampoo and gently massaged the graft area with my finger tips to work the shampoo in a little, but I've always been a little afraid to rub too hard. For drying I would just blot lightly with a towel. As the scabs started to come off, I would kind of roll my finger tips over them lightly and gently work them out of the grafts. I've always been cautious, afraid that I might accidentally dislodge some grafts if I went too hard. My approach seems to work pretty well though, as Dr. Feller even commented on the good job I did cleaning them.

Hairthere - Yes, I was extremely careful and followed all post-op instructions to a T. I believe the only thing that was different was that Dr. Feller's instructions said to return to a normal shower 4 days after surgery, and I believe Dr. Dorin's said 5 days. Also, I believe the excessive scabbing Dr. Dorin referred to was in the donor area. In fact I remember him telling me that when he removed the sutures. I don't think that would have effected the grafts. I'm not sure why the grafts didn't yield a great growth rate, but I guess it's just one of those things that unfortunately happens sometimes.

Hey man, I'm guessing you live in the Florida area, since you mentioned seeing Dr. Charles. I don't know how you feel about traveling, but I've had work done with Dr. Feller in Great Neck, NY. You can check out my pics a little further down on the page. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/160946-my-hair-restoration-journey-dr-feller.html I had around 2200 grafts put into my hairline area. My guess is you'd probably need around the same. I had FUT. Though I've never shaved my head really short, the scar isn't noticeable at all with some hair grown out a little. I can't really say if you should do FUT or FUE, though I have heard that FUT is cheaper and yields a better graft survival rate, meaning better results. Hope this helps some. Good luck.

Futbol9, I would try and see as many pictures of results from patients of both doctors before making a final decision. Obviously if the quality of one doctor's work appears to be superior, that is the way to go. However, if there doesn't really appear to be much of a difference, and the work of both look impressive to you, then I would go with Meshkin, as you would be getting an extra 700 grafts for the same price, which would increase your density. Good luck.

Thanks Aaron. Oh, and to answer your question from before, no I'm not on Finasteride. Though I did experience a little hair loss, I guess I was one of the luckier ones in that I only experienced it in the hairline area. I've never had any thinning or anything on the crown or scalp, and the loss I did experience stabilized about 10 years ago. I've never tried Finasteride or Rogaine, or any of those meds, because to my understanding they typically don't work on the hairline.

Dr. Dorin, I would like to thank you for taking the time to post your response on the forum. I would also like to say that I'm sorry that this particular subject blew up the way it did, spanning across 2 separate threads on here. I hope you can understand that that was never my intention. I was simply asked if I would speak about my experiences, and that is what I attempted to do. I've stated clearly numerous times that my posts were in no way meant as an attack on you in any way, or to try and discourage anyone from going to you. To put it simply, yes, I was disappointed in the results of our procedure together, so I decided to explore my options. When I spoke with Dr. Feller, I just thought he might be a better fit for me personally in achieving my restoration goals. I wasn't seeking compensation or anything, since I do realize that even though many hair transplants are largely successful, there are no guarantees. I think that is the reason I never returned to you. Again, that's nothing personal, I just felt that it was in my best interest to go with Dr. Feller. As I've mentioned in some of my previous posts, I have no ill feelings or bitterness towards you whatsoever. I'm not trying to put a blame on anyone, but i will say that I think because some of the posters on this forum became argumentative with each other that this whole thing got blown way out of proportion. If anything I've said has offended you, I apologize, as again, that was never my intention. I'm well aware of your high success rate with many other patients, and i wish you continued success and all the best in the future. Thank you again.

Corvettester, Some how I don't think that either one of them has ever had a problem getting laid. LOL. Let's face it, they're two of the best looking dudes ever, and both have awesome hair! Glad that my last post helped to clarify everything. Boy, you weren't kidding when you said my result was the "talk of the town" this week! And thanks for the compliments on my results. To answer your question, it was closer to 2200 the first time with Dr. Feller, so it's closer to 4500 total in the hairline region. I know that's quite a bit. You might not need quite as much to reach your goal though. Just something to keep in mind, my hair's natural texture is very thick, and I think that may have actually worked against me in one respect. What I mean is that because it is so thick, I think I may have needed more grafts to achieve the density I wanted. From what I can see in your pictures, your hair appears to have a finer texture than mine, so, you might be able to reach your goal with a smaller number of grafts. I don't know what your goals are, but in my opinion, I think your hairline is in a good location now. I think it frames your face very nicely and is positioned just right. If I were you, I would just concentrate on adding a little more density to it. I would think another 1200-1500 would probably give you some really nice density. That's just an opinion though, as I'm not a doctor. Also, I guess it's too soon to say, seeing that the most recent pics I've seen of you are at the 6 month mark, which means you still have quite a bit of maturing to come. Good luck on your journey. I'll have to check back with you some months down the line. Thanks again to everyone for the feedback.

Corvettester, there is no need to apologize for the Full House jokes, I was not offended by them at all. Whether or not you have a beef with Dr. Feller as some of the other posters have claimed, I don't know, but I'm not going to accuse you of having one. I will try my best to answer your questions as openly and honestly as I can. First, the reason I haven't posted any private or personal pictures because unfortunately I don't have any. I never documented my progress with photos, as many other patients have. Now some of you may think that was stupid on my part, and perhaps it was, but it doesn't change the fact that I didn't do it. I don't know exactly why I didn't. I guess it's because I never actually expected to post anything on any of these forums. Though I have used the forums for guidance and read many reviews and patient experiences, I initially never planned on talking about my own. The reason that's changed now is because Dr. Feller asked me if I would share my experiences. Dr. Feller has been extremely happy with my results, as have I, and he wanted them to be seen for two reasons. One, because they are probably exceptionally good results. Even some of his staff has told me my results are some of the best they've ever seen. And two, I think my case is somewhat unique, in the sense that I'm probably not your typical hair transplant patient. What I mean by that is that most people who decide to get a hair transplant have experienced substantially more hair loss than I did. Now I did experience a little, but I think 90-95% of the people on this planet would be happy with what I had before any surgeries, and the thought of a transplant probably wouldn't even enter their minds. Most people that I've seen that have gone in for the procedure have been at least a Norwood 3, and they have different goals than me. Keep in mind as I've mentioned before, there is no history of baldness in my family, and I developed no other trouble areas other than some rescission in my hairline, which stabilized nearly 10 years ago. In addition to that, I had a very abundant donor supply, 10,000 plus from what I was told. Therefore I was able to concentrate solely on my hairline and have it packed very densely. Also, if you look at the pictures that have been posted, you'll notice that the hairline I designed is pretty low. Most patients would probably consider it to be too low for them. In fact, I have yet to see anyone post pictures of a hairline like mine. That's why I would say it's somewhat unique in that sense. And that's why I think Dr. Feller wanted it to be seen as well, not solely because the results were terrific, even though they were. And I must say that I think that's pretty cool. Right now I'm sure there's somebody else out there who, like me, hasn't experienced a lot of hair loss, but is bothered by the amount he has experienced. And maybe that person is researching the forums like I did, trying to find results from a case similar to his own. So, if my case can help that person in any way, and give them an idea of how many grafts they might need and what can be accomplished if someone is a proper candidate, then I think that's great. I know when I was researching I didn't find any cases that were exactly like mine. I saw many different types of repair and restorations, but again they were on people who had experienced substantially more hair loss than I had. So in a sense, deciding to get the procedure done was a bit of a gamble, considering I had not seen anyone with the design and density I wanted. That being said, like I told you earlier, unfortunately I did not document my journey with any pictures of my own. Any before and after pictures that were taken were done so by my doctors. So, because I had no pictures it was impossible for me to post any. That's why Dr. Feller had Spex take care of posting the pictures for me, which again I appreciate. And I can assure you that the pictures you see are an accurate representation of my progression. As for my post appearing in more than one forum, it was explained to me that the experience and reviews section generates more traffic, so I was asked to post it again, so that more people could see it. And you're correct, with the exception of a few small tweaks and a different intro, it is basically a copy and paste. I just didn't see the need to rewrite the whole thing when essentially all I was doing was just giving more people an opportunity to read about my experiences. Regarding your question about compensation, I assure you that I have not in any way whatsoever been compensated by either Dr. Feller or Spex. As I've said earlier, Dr. Feller was extremely pleased with my results and wanted to share them. When I said that was fine, he asked me if I would post on here and talk about my experience, which I also agreed to. And that was my intent with my original post, to share my experience as a whole, the good and the not so good. And to address one thing you mentioned in one of your posts, I never complained about the scar I received from Dr. Dorin. All I said was that Dr. Feller told me he thought the scar had been made too high, and he explained to me why that could be a problem. As far as the scar itself goes, it really doesn't bother me in the least. I've never even noticed the slightest indication that it's even there. My disappointment was in the hairline results. I just felt like not nearly enough grafts had been used, as the hairline wasn't made low or dense enough to give me what I wanted. When I decided to do a little more research before booking a second procedure I found Dr. Feller, and based on my previous experience at T&D, I just got the feeling Dr. Feller might be better suited for me personally. Again, anything I posted was in no way meant as some kind of vendetta against Dr. Dorin or meant to insult him in any way. I'm not trying to tell people not to go to him or anything like that. I am well aware that Dr. Dorin has produced some really good work. In fact I've seen some of your pictures, and it looks like you've gotten some pretty nice results with him, and that's great, I'm happy for you. Unfortunately for me, my results didn't satisfy me. However, I'd like it to be known once again that none of my comments were intended as an attack on Dr. Dorin. I have no ill feelings towards him, and in fact I wish him well. It's like you said, no surgeon has a 100% positive track record. I know the majority of Dr. Dorin's patients have been very satisfied, and rightfully so. For whatever reason, I just happened to fall into the small percentage of those who came away a little disappointed, and Dr. Feller turned out to be a better choice for me. Well, I hope this answered your questions and cleared up any confusion or misconceptions. Lastly, thank you for saying my hair looks like the real John Stamos'. I don't think you can get a better compliment than that when it comes to hair. And thank you to everyone for your feedback. Best wishes and grow well everyone. Have Mercy!

Thanks Spex. I really appreciate you taking the time to post the pictures for me. And best of luck to you in your journey as well.

Hello everyone, I've been reading posts of these forums for quite some time now, and really gained some valuable insight while researching doctors. I'd like to thank everyone who's taken the time to share their experiences and insight, as it's been a great help to me and many others. That being said, I'd like to share my personal experiences with everyone. Pictures should be up soon as well. I experienced my hair loss between my senior year of high school, and my junior year of college. I don't really remember how quickly or gradually it happened. It just seemed like one day my hair didn't want to cooperate when I was brushing it, and it didn't look right. That's when I noticed that my hairline had gone back on the sides. Now I still had a lot of thick remaining hair, but the hairline bothered me. In high school I was able to basically do what ever I wanted with my hair, but now it just didn't look right unless I kept it a little longer and combed it to cover up the rescission on the sides, a process that could often become quite lengthy and annoying. Luckily for me, my hair loss stabilized, and I didn't experience any more as the years passed, but the amount I did experience really bothered me and made me very self-conscious. Finally, after years of considering having a hair transplant, I decided to take action a little over two years ago. Now at this point I really only knew what I had seen on TV from Bosley, but after doing some research online, I found the forums, and needless to say Bosley was quickly ruled out. I soon discovered True & Dorin. They seemed to have nearly all positive reviews on any of the forum posts I read, the pictures of results on their website looked good, and their pricing seemed very reasonable, so I decided to go with them. Now let me just say that I am not posting here to bash or insult anyone. I realize that many people have had very good experiences with True & Dorin, however, I did not care much for my own personal experience with them. When I went for my consultation, I met both Dr. True and Dr. Dorin, who were both very polite. I was very clear about what I wanted, and had even gone to the consultation with lines drawn on my head, to show them exactly what I wanted to do with my hairline, and made sure to stress the fact that I didn't want there to be any see-through. I explained that neither my father, nor either one of my grandfathers had been bald, and that my hair loss had stabilized a number of years earlier, therefore I wasn't concerned about future hair loss and wanted to focus on fixing up my hairline. After analyzing my scalp and donor area, they determined that I was a good candidate for a hair transplant. As my consultation continued, they told me that I would need about 1100 grafts, and actually said that anything more might be too much. At the time I had no idea how many grafts it would take to accomplish what I wanted, so I had no reason to question their assessment, and I booked a date for my surgery, which was later performed by Dr. Dorin. On the day of surgery, while I was being prepped, Dr. Dorin came in to talk to me. He told me that I was probably going to need a second surgery to achieve what I wanted. Now this took me by surprise, since at my consultation both he and Dr. True said that anything more than 1100 might be too much, and now he was telling me I was most likely going to need a second procedure. But I still decided to go through with everything, since I did want to restore my hairline. Looking back on it now, I really can't figure out why or how they could have misinformed me like that at the consultation. Next Dr. Dorin drew my new hairline on my head. He told me that he was purposely making it a little uneven, since that's how natural hairlines look. What he drew on my head looked okay to me, and soon it was time to start. The surgery seemed to go off without a hitch, and everything seemed fine to me at the time. Fast forward to when the new hair grew in, and let's just say I was disappointed in the results. Now before anyone says anything, I followed all their instructions very closely and did everything I was supposed to, and apparently from what I was told, I yielded a very good growth rate. However, the work itself left a lot to be desired. The hairline was very noticeably uneven. Now I know Dr. Dorin said he was purposely making it a little uneven, but it didn't look anything like the design he had drawn to me, and it seemed like he went out of his way to make it look uneven, which I didn't particularly care for. In addition the density was lacking, and even though I did have some new hair, it was mostly all see-through. Now again, I'm not here to badmouth anyone, I'm just giving an honest account of my experience. If anyone on here has undergone surgery with Dr. Dorin and had a good experience and gotten good results, then I am happy for you. However, I feel that I was misled during my consultation, and that the results were quite poor. When I went for a follow up visit around the 8-9 month mark, I told Dr. Dorin that I thought I wanted to do a second procedure. He said I'd probably need between another 800-1000 grafts. Based on my results I tried to imagine what another 1000 grafts would look like, and I wasn't sure that would give me what I wanted either. So I told Dr. Dorin I would contact the office when I was ready and left. I decided to do some more research online and to check out some other doctors. I soon found Dr. Feller's website, and read about some of his techniques, including dense packing, which I figured I would need. I also found an overwhelming amount of positive reviews about him on the forums, and got to look at a lot of pictures. I decided to make a consultation with him, and it's probably one of the best decisions I've ever made. Dr. Feller is a stand up guy in addition to a great doctor. When he analyzed the work I had had done previously, he was legitimately surprised, and basically confirmed what I had suspected, that this wasn't a good hair transplant. He took a bunch of pictures, which he brought up on his computer screen for me to see, and pointed out the fact that multiple hair grafts had been placed into various areas throughout the front of the hairline, something that should never be done, as it gives that doll's hair appearance and looks unnatural. He also pointed out that he thought the donor area scar had been made too high, stating it was right on the borderline of the safety zone, meaning the hair transplanted from that area could potentially fall out in the future. To be fair though, he did say it shouldn't be a problem in my case, but it could be for other patients who have experienced more excessive hair loss and have a greater risk of experiencing future hair loss. I do think it's unfortunate though, because if it had been made lower, Dr. Feller probably could have just gone over it. Then I would just have one scar instead of two, but to be honest, under normal conditions the scar isn't noticeable, so I can live with it. As I discussed my goal with Dr. Feller, I basically mentioned the same things that I had mentioned at my consultation with True and Dorin; that neither my father, nor either one of my grandfathers had been bald, and that my hair loss had stabilized a number of years earlier, therefore I wasn't concerned about future hair loss and wanted to focus on fixing up my hairline. When Dr. Feller examined my head, he told me that there weren't any indications that I'd experience any future hair loss, and agreed that he didn't think I'd have to worry about it. He also told me how great of a donor supply I had, which meant I really didn't have to worry about being conservative, and he didn't try to sell me on the idea of being conservative. I understand that in some cases where people have had more excessive hair loss, being conservative may be a necessity. However, I don't feel that was the case in my situation, and Dr. Feller seemed to be on the same page with me, which really made me feel at ease. Dr. Feller told me I would need around 2000 grafts, and that not only was my goal realistic and achievable, but it would actually be pretty easy for him, which got me pretty excited. The day of my surgery I actually drew the hairline design myself. Dr. Feller liked the way it looked and traced over it, to make the guidelines more prominent. I would like to point out that I was very pleased that Dr. Feller allowed me to design my own hairline, as this showed me he wanted to make me happy. Just as he didn't try to sell me on being conservative, he also didn't try to convince me to make the hairline higher or more mature looking with some rescission. Now I realize that some patients prefer a hairline that is a little higher, or that has some rescission, figuring it will look more natural 10 and 20 years down the road, and that's completely fine, to each his own. However, that just isn't for me, personally. While most people might experience some rescission, not everyone does. People like Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise and Eric Bana don't have any, and to me they look great. That's more of what I was going for, and I know Dr. Feller understood this, and did not try to sway my opinion. He basically made sure that the design I came up with matched up with the framing of my face and gave me what I wanted. That was something that was extremely important to me, as I know not all doctors are willing to do that, and many will push there own opinions onto their patients. To me, any patient paying to have this kind of procedure done has the right to be given the hairline design they want, as long as their donor supply and their wallet can afford it. I think Dr. Feller believes this too. The surgery itself went very well. Dr. Feller extracted the donor strip and made the incisions in the recipient area, and his technicians placed the grafts, with Dr. Feller checking in on me from time to time. I believe the technicians changed every hour or so, to ensure no one got tired and fresh hands were always working on me. Something I noticed this time around was that they continuously wet my recipient area, which I was told was important for the grafts. They had not done this nearly as much at True & Dorin. As for the rest of the surgery, I didn't experience any problems or complications, and Dr. Feller even gave me somewhere around an extra 200 grafts, stating that the better I look, the better he looks, a point he's reiterated time and again with me. Jump ahead 8 months, and I'd say my results were fantastic. I went to see Dr. Feller, and he told me that the hair looked great for 8 months post-op. The hairline was much more even and lowed to where I wanted it, it wasn't see-through any more, there were no multi-haired grafts in the front, and it looked very natural. I did discuss the idea of adding a little more density overall, since my native hair is thick and quite dense, but Dr. Feller advised me to wait a little longer, and let the new hair mature a little more, which I did. Around the one year mark I went back for another follow up, and decided to book one more procedure with Dr. Feller. Once again we discussed my goal, which was not to make the hairline any lower, but simply to add some more density behind it. Dr. Feller said that another 1000 grafts should give me what I want. Now I know after you get to look at my pictures many of you may say I'm being greedy, or even a little ridiculous, as I did get great results from my last procedure with Dr. Feller. However, I think everyone is entitled to do what makes them happy. As I said earlier, my native hair is very thick and dense, and though my transplanted hair looked very good as it was, I wanted it to match up pretty much perfectly with the native hair in terms of density. And again, none of the men in my direct bloodline (Father, grandfathers, uncles) have been bald, and my personal hair loss stabilized years ago with no further progression, so I'm not worrying about any future hair loss. I am currently about a week post-op from my last surgery with Dr. Feller. Once again, the procedure went extremely well, and I believe Dr. Feller again gave me close to 200 extra grafts. He told me that this should get me very close to my native density. So right now it's the waiting game, but I have every bit of confidence that my final results will be outstanding. In my opinion Dr. Feller deserves every bit of praise he receives on these forums. The man is truly an expert at what he does. To anyone considering getting a hair transplant, whether it's your first, second, third or whatever, if you haven't considered going to Dr. Feller, you are doing yourself a great disservice. I honestly believe that he is one of the best in the industry. He cares about making his patients happy, and it shows in the quality of his work. My personal experience with him has been fantastic. My only regret is that I didn't find him sooner, as I'm sure I would have only required 2 surgeries, rather than 3. I'd personally like to thank Dr. Feller for giving me the hairline I've been longing for the last 10 years. I'm no longer self-conscious about the way my hair looks, and I honestly can't wait for all the new hair to grow in, I know it's going to look incredible. I would also like to extend my thanks to Spex, who will be posting some pictures for me, and for all the support he's offered others on these forums. As I've said, I've been a reader on here for a while now, so I am well aware of his contributions to this site. Well that's all for now. If anyone has any questions, I'll gladly answer them, and I welcome any feedback. Best wishes and grow well everyone.

Hey man, congratulations. I had a procedure with Dr. Feller last April that was very similar to yours. Like you, I really can't say enough good things about him. I agree 100% that he will do his best to give you what you want. In fact, he even let me draw the hairline myself, and like you I received around 200 extra grafts as well. Just recently I returned to him for a smaller procedure to add a little more density, but I've been thrilled with the results so far, and honestly can not wait for the newest hair to grow in. Good luck with everything, I'm sure you're going to be happy as well, the pictures look great. If you'd like to know more about my experience, here is the link: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/160915-hairline-repair-2200-grafts-dr-feller.html#post2266413

I've had work done with Dr. Feller, and I was told to wash my hair normally on the fourth day after surgery. I would think you shouldn't have to ask. I would think that your doctor or his technicians should have went over post-op instructions with you, and the topic should have been discussed.