Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Definitions of charlatan on the Web (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Acharlatan): (char?·la?·tan) (shahr??l[schwa]-t[schwa]n) [Fr.] a pretender to knowledge or skills that he does not possess; in medicine, a quack. mountebank: a flamboyant deceiver; one who attracts customers with tricks or jokes wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn A charlatan is a person practicing quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money or advantage by false pretenses. If the ascription is false, then "charlatan" is pejorative; if it is true, then the description "charlatan" is no libel. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlatan PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Definitions of charlatan on the Web (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Acharlatan): (char?·la?·tan) (shahr??l[schwa]-t[schwa]n) [Fr.] a pretender to knowledge or skills that he does not possess; in medicine, a quack. mountebank: a flamboyant deceiver; one who attracts customers with tricks or jokes wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn A charlatan is a person practicing quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money or advantage by false pretenses. If the ascription is false, then "charlatan" is pejorative; if it is true, then the description "charlatan" is no libel. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlatan PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Pat - Community Publisher Posted May 13, 2007 Administrators Share Posted May 13, 2007 Could some one help me find the definition of an angry fool? (see how I "attract customers with tricks and jokes" :-) By the way, the purpose of this forum is actually to help hair loss sufferers find solutions not to provide you with a forum to vent your anger. I know things are dead over on your grudge forum, but can you try to limit the number of new angry forum topics to under ten per day? They are amusing but unlike you we do have work to do around here. P.S. I did find a good anger management forum that you might find more appropriate at SelfGrowth.com at www.selfgrowth.com/anger.html Enjoy the rest of your Sunday and try to calm down and perhaps call your mother on Mother's Day. Never Forget - It's what radiates from within, not from your skin, that really matters! My Hair Loss Blog Sharing is what keeps this community vital. Please join in. To learn how I restored my hair and started this community, click here. Follow our Community on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Pat - Publisher of this Community:Could some one help me find the definition of an angry fool? By the way, you see how I "attract customers with tricks and jokes" :-) By the way, the purpose of this forum is actually to help hair loss sufferers find solutions not to provide you with a forum to vent your anger. However, I did find a good anger management forum that you might find more appropriate at SelfGrowth.com at www.selfgrowth.com/anger.html Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. Thank you for the link. When I actually become angry, I might use that. For now, I am being a real patient advocate by exposing the TRUTH. I am not angry. I am quite disgusted with your deceipt. There is a big difference. Why not just stop dodging the truth and post the real figures? Why not just come out and say it for real? Stop trying to deflect the real facts! PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Pat, No worries. I have replied to his other posts which really get to his point.. Just you allowing this person to express his opinion illustrates your objectivity and commitiment to the free speech on this site.. Don't bother, he has no legit points to stand on.. Some people cannot just let a good thing be.. This site changed my life and allowed me to make life changing decisions in an objective, educated manner.. We will not let some cynical person change that. The community is too strong and sincere.. Who in their right mind wouldn't want to help people? Perfect, what does money have to do with anything?? I really don't see your point? JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Pat - Community Publisher Posted May 13, 2007 Administrators Share Posted May 13, 2007 Mrjb, It's members like you that make the headaches worth while. Have a great Mothers Day. Pat Never Forget - It's what radiates from within, not from your skin, that really matters! My Hair Loss Blog Sharing is what keeps this community vital. Please join in. To learn how I restored my hair and started this community, click here. Follow our Community on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Mrjb:Pat, No worries. I have replied to his other posts which really get to his point.. Just you allowing this person to express his opinion illustrates your objectivity and commitiment to the free speech on this site.. Don't bother, he has no legit points to stand on.. Some people cannot just let a good thing be.. This site changed my life and allowed me to make life changing decisions in an objective, educated manner.. We will not let some cynical person change that.. I am educating everyone to the fact that Pat gets paid to promote doctors and says he is a "patient advocate". It is a conflict of interest in the worst way, and is probably illegal. No doubt that when the investigation is finished, you people will see the cold hard truth. PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Dude! Get it through your thick skull.. Pat does not post the threads.. I don't get paid jack! Docs in the coalition have earned the right to be suggested on here due to results, no solely money.. If your theory is so right, how come the largest money making HT company is repeatedly knocked ??? JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Mrjb:Dude! Get it through your thick skull.. Pat does not post the threads.. I don't get paid jack! Docs in the coalition have earned the right to be suggested on here due to results, no solely money.. "Dude", PAT POSTS IN THESE FORUMS AND RECOMMENDS PHYSICIANS BASED UPON BEING PAID A FEE!!! If your theory is so right, how come the largest money making HT company is repeatedly knocked ??? Because they use the same tactics that Pat uses. PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Wingnut Posted May 13, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 PerfectFew, While I appreciate your points, I don't like your tactics. Accusations and name calling only limit your credibility. If your whole point of creating 8 new threads on a Sunday is to pimp some other website you should go away or maybe Pat will ban you. The HRI community (I suspect) will stick here, because Pat is allowing the freedom of speech to talk about whatever and whomever you want. You have some valid points, but don't make a nusiance of yourself trying to make them. Thanks ---- First Hair Transplant performed by Dr. DeYarman, approximately 4180 grafts on 01/10/2007 Second Hair Transplant performed by Dr. Reed, approximately 2207 grafts on 10/10/2007 Third Hair Transplant performed by Dr. Reed, approximately 1896 grafts on 05/13/2008 Total Grafts 8283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 He is speaking in generalities.. No specifics to base his facts JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Mrjb:He is speaking in generalities.. No specifics to base his facts $624,000 is specific. Promoting doctors for a fee is specific. Telling people this he is a patient advocate is specific. PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Pat - Community Publisher Posted May 13, 2007 Administrators Share Posted May 13, 2007 Who was it that said that if you repeat a lie long enough people will believe it? Apparently Imperfect Few thinks this will work for him. All the best, Pat Never Forget - It's what radiates from within, not from your skin, that really matters! My Hair Loss Blog Sharing is what keeps this community vital. Please join in. To learn how I restored my hair and started this community, click here. Follow our Community on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Pat - Publisher of this Community:Who was it that said that if you repeat a lie long enough people will believe it? Apparently Imperfect Few things this will work for him. All the best, Pat Thanks for deflecting from the truth! You are a PAID SHILL, nothing more, nothing less. Your jig is up. You have been discovered. Why don't you just COME CLEAN. Perhaps you might have a chance and recovering. PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 PerfectFew You have been watching too many movies. It's obvious you do not want to help people Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.. I think it's time to ban him Pat. I have a rule, anyone who uses the word "shill" in a sentence had too go Too funny JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Mrjb:PerfectFew You have been watching too many movies. It's obvious you do not want to help people Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere.. I think it's time to ban him Pat. I have a rule, anyone who uses the word "shill" in a sentence had too go Too funny I am a patient advocate. Not a "shill". I am not selling anything nor am I "peddling". You are the shill: 941 posts so far! PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Wrong again I am not selling anything just trying to help people..This illustrates how off base you are..I just want to help people .. I don't even push my doctor, but tell people to get the facts It's too bad you cannot be more objective and professional.. You may have some input to discuss but your method is child and virus like which kills you credibility JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Mrjb:Wrong again I am not selling anything just trying to help people..This illustrates how off base you are..I just want to help people .. I don't even push my doctor, but tell people to get the facts It's too bad you cannot be more objective and professional.. You may have some input to discuss but your method is child and virus like which kills you credibility I am not getting paid to promote a doctor. I am a patient who discovered the truth. Now I'm just plain disgusted. PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Yes, I understand what you are saying But Perfect there is one point you are missing THE PATIENTS RESULTS ARE DOCUMENTED TO QUALIFY THE DOCTORS.. They just don't pay the fee and get on here that's the proof .. Seriously JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Mrjb:Yes, I understand what you are saying But Perfect there is one point you are missing THE PATIENTS RESULTS ARE DOCUMENTED TO QUALIFY THE DOCTORS.. They just don't pay the fee and get on here that's the proof .. Seriously The proof: Call the physicians and talk to them about it. Ask them how they got on the "recommended" list. PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 So you are saying these docs are not good docs? Now you are critizing the doctors which is what you where blaming Pat for in the beginning?? You make no sense ?? JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Originally posted by Mrjb:So you are saying these docs are not good docs? Now you are critizing the doctors which is what you where blaming Pat for in the beginning?? You make no sense ?? No, I think there are some fine doctors here. I just want real "transparency". PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 But you just said , you have a problem with the payment factor , that there is not credibilty of the docs.. What's wrong with someone running a business and helping people .. What is the real problem ? You don't make sense?? JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PerfectFew Posted May 13, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 Some the doctors are good. I am not criticizing the doctors. I am just asking for truth in advertising. PerfectFew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted May 13, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 13, 2007 OK Now we are getting somewhere!! So why don't they pay a fee so they can be advertised on Pat's site.. This is his site and a business.. I'm sure they make plenty of money so what is the problem.. It's ok if they do but not if Pat does?? Do you see where I am coming from? There are many good products but they have to pay to advertise on TV?? Maybe you have an issue with Capitalism .. JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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