Regular Member takuma Posted December 20, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 20, 2023 verteporfin causes skin to heal back normally with its appendages such as sweat glands and more importantly hair follicles, minoxidil is a growth stimulant that gives life to dormant follicles, maybe together they could work synergistically to regrow hair that has supposedly been lost for years maybe with some wounding mechanism. so basically the verteporfin could bring the hair back in its miniaturized state and the minoxidil could be used after to grow it back to thick terminal hair, provided that verteporfin regenerated hair in those areas is not already thick and terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LL_boring_J Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Do any of the published studies measure the density of hair and glands (re)generated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NivoScars Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I'm really feeling like it's wrong on Dr.Bloxhams path to not help us out at this stage. It's been 5 months and he hasn't even updated in text. It's really wrong and If someone knows of him please let him know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hair Tomorrow Posted December 21, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 21, 2023 Does anyone know if Verteporfin will regenerate the Erector Pili muscles that go with each hair follicle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 21, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted December 21, 2023 11 hours ago, NivoScars said: I'm really feeling like it's wrong on Dr.Bloxhams path to not help us out at this stage. It's been 5 months and he hasn't even updated in text. It's really wrong and If someone knows of him please let him know Why is it wrong, he’s doing this out of his own free will. He doesn’t owe anyone anything. He’s a hair transplant surgeon first and foremost, his duties are with his patients that pay him for surgery. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Square1 Posted December 21, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Melvin- Admin said: Why is it wrong, he’s doing this out of his own free will. He doesn’t owe anyone anything. He’s a hair transplant surgeon first and foremost, his duties are with his patients that pay him for surgery. Exactly, he will share his updates whenever he feels like it. Unless we pay people to conduct research, we simply have to accept that the docs who are so kind to voluntarily do the research set the timelines. Is there anything known about when dr. Mohebi starts his trial? That will be a big deal, as will dr. Barghouthi's second trial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member takuma Posted December 21, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) I think he's just working on it, He has four separate patients, he has to get the pics from all of them and then compile them into a video and upload it; all that takes time; He probably already has the four month pics or maybe he plans to go straight to month 5-6, if he didn't see any spectacular change/ difference in month 4 pics so he doesn't want to deflate our hopes. He might also be waiting to have at least one of them come into the clinic so he can record their results in person, so he can show the results better, or perhaps he's waiting for the trichoscope to arrive and he plans to do some trichoscopy analysis on one of the patients. Edited December 21, 2023 by takuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NivoScars Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Melvin- Admin said: Why is it wrong, he’s doing this out of his own free will. He doesn’t owe anyone anything. He’s a hair transplant surgeon first and foremost, his duties are with his patients that pay him for surgery. It takes a minute to type something. Anything at all He can really do that, especially since he has conducted the experiment. If he hasn't done so in over 5 months, isn't that a little unfair towards us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 22, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted December 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, NivoScars said: It takes a minute to type something. Anything at all He can really do that, especially since he has conducted the experiment. If he hasn't done so in over 5 months, isn't that a little unfair towards us? No, he doesn’t owe you, me, or anyone anything. It’s not “unfair” because he’s doing this from his own free will. You’re not paying him. We’re not paying him. Im sure he will update us when he has the time. His duty is to his patients who pay him for their results. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NivoScars Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Melvin- Admin said: No, he doesn’t owe you, me, or anyone anything. It’s not “unfair” because he’s doing this from his own free will. You’re not paying him. We’re not paying him. Im sure he will update us when he has the time. His duty is to his patients who pay him for their results. I know that Melvin, I'm really greatfull for it It's just that I think that it takes a second to do it. However, l understand and deeply thank everyone who's helping the cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Hairgain Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 Rather than complain here, why not just give him a call? If he hears from us, maybe he will come forward since we are anxious to follow the state of the experimental outcomes. Feller and Broxham is the name of the group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted December 22, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hairgain said: Feller and Broxham Or Feller & Bloxham 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member takuma Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hairgain said: Rather than complain here, why not just give him a call? If he hears from us, maybe he will come forward since we are anxious to follow the state of the experimental outcomes. Feller and Broxham is the name of the group. Right and they're based in New York, it's not impossible to get a hold of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member takuma Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 Super excited about HairDao's podcast with Dr Bargouthi... should be soon...they posted another tweet about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Shesayshesay Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 Anyone here who is familiar with Verteporfin able to share what the possible side effects could be if this would be used in combination with hair transplants or even derma-rolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Shesayshesay Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, takuma said: Super excited about HairDao's podcast with Dr Bargouthi... should be soon...they posted another tweet about it. Could this possibly contain our long awaited 5 month results update? Looks like they used the word “could” so it appears nothing has been proven yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member takuma Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, Shesayshesay said: Could this possibly contain our long awaited 5 month results update? Looks like they used the word “could” so it appears nothing has been proven yet. 5 month update? what 5 month update... Dr Bargouthi's first trial is already completed it's been completed for some time now, over a year i think. Am i missing something? I know that we're waiting for the 5 month update for Dr Bloxham's trial though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Shesayshesay Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, takuma said: 5 month update? what 5 month update... Dr Bargouthi's first trial is already completed it's been completed for some time now, over a year i think. Am i missing something? I know that we're waiting for the 5 month update for Dr Bloxham's trial though. Ignore me.. woops. I am new to all of this so may have gotten the doctors mixed up. What has Dr Bargouthi’s results been? Regrowth? I guess I’ll find out in the video … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member takuma Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) On 11/20/2023 at 2:03 PM, Melvin- Admin said: So tomorrow, I'm going to @Parsa Mohebi, MD, office to discuss the potential Verteporfin trial. I set him up with all the information available to get the brand name Visudyne shipped to his office. I'm thinking of making this meeting a podcast. Would you guys prefer this pre-recorded or live? This is simply incredible beyond words Edited December 22, 2023 by takuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member takuma Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Shesayshesay said: Ignore me.. woops. I am new to all of this so may have gotten the doctors mixed up. What has Dr Bargouthi’s results been? Regrowth? I guess I’ll find out in the video … Oh no worries, his results have been insane! from a glance it looks like 60-70 percent regrowth of the hair in the donor where the highest dose the 0.4 concentration was administered after the original follicles were extracted at the start of the trial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Shesayshesay Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, takuma said: Oh no worries, his results have been insane! from a glance it looks like 60-70 percent regrowth of the hair in the donor where the highest dose the 0.4 concentration was administered after the original follicles were extracted at the start of the trial You’re actually scaring me by how much you’re exciting me by just reading this. Please oh please let this be the thing that can end this soul sucking problem that is hairloss. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dragonsphere Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 I would taper expectation with the FUT results. FUT removes significantly more tissue than with FUE so the healing potential with be less. If you cut off your arm, you could inject all the verteporfin you want and it still won't grow back. Having said that the 3 month results look promising. I reiterate, we only need Verteporfin to regenerate at least 30% of transplanted grafts and for it to work on transplanted hairs that are transplanted again and we can call it a cure. Hell, maybe only 20% if you have the money and time. Also I keep seeing people say that it looks like around 50% of the hairs grew back. Are people being conservative with this figure? I don't want to raise people's hopes but I have circled in the areas void of hair on Barghouthi's test subject. Can you find anywhere on the T zone where you could emulate those circles? I can't. To me it looks to be around 80-90% of the hair grew back. 80% and over would be an effective cure. If you have 5000 grafts left an 80% regeneration rate would mean you could get an additional 17K+ grafts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 22, 2023 Author Administrators Share Posted December 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dragonsphere said: I would taper expectation with the FUT results. FUT removes significantly more tissue than with FUE so the healing potential with be less. If you cut off your arm, you could inject all the verteporfin you want and it still won't grow back. Having said that the 3 month results look promising. I reiterate, we only need Verteporfin to regenerate at least 30% of transplanted grafts and for it to work on transplanted hairs that are transplanted again and we can call it a cure. Hell, maybe only 20% if you have the money and time. Also I keep seeing people say that it looks like around 50% of the hairs grew back. Are people being conservative with this figure? I don't want to raise people's hopes but I have circled in the areas void of hair on Barghouthi's test subject. Can you find anywhere on the T zone where you could emulate those circles? I can't. To me it looks to be around 80-90% of the hair grew back. 80% and over would be an effective cure. If you have 5000 grafts left an 80% regeneration rate would mean you could get an additional 17K+ grafts. I agree. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dragonsphere Posted December 22, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Melvin- Admin said: I agree. Hi Melvin, could you mention this idea next time you speak to the HT conducting a trial. I don't believe anyone has yet to discuss the idea of how Verteporfin can be used to transplant and replant in the donor area with each round having a compounding effect until the donor area is fully restored. I am trying to temper my expectations but to me it already looks like a given that Verteporfin regenerated 30% minimum in this test subject. Now if it can regenerate hair that has already been transplanted, without even being hyperbolic, we could all become Brad Pitt with a few surgeries. 🧑🦱 Edited December 22, 2023 by Dragonsphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David149 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) If this works: Hair transplant company’s revenues 📈📈📈 Hair preventing company’s revenues 📉📉📉 Edited December 22, 2023 by David149 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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