Regular Member grycha Posted November 4, 2021 Regular Member Share Posted November 4, 2021 Hi all, Iam after 2 surgeries (total 4500gr) and would like to have 3rd one but in my situation I dont have much donor area to extract so thats why I seek for clinic which extracts donor grafts as efficietly as possible and with minimum dot scars effect. Clinic at low or average cost level. Which clinic should I choose ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 4, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, grycha said: Hi all, Iam after 2 surgeries (total 4500gr) and would like to have 3rd one but in my situation I dont have much donor area to extract so thats why I seek for clinic which extracts donor grafts as efficietly as possible and with minimum dot scars effect. Clinic at low or average cost level. Which clinic should I choose ? Have you considered Eugenix ? They are very good at managing the donor area and have more than reasonable pricing. Dr Bicer would be another consideration. Both are forum recommended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted November 4, 2021 Administrators Share Posted November 4, 2021 Can you share pictures? Surgery isn’t always the answer. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member grycha Posted November 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Edited November 5, 2021 by grycha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member grycha Posted November 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 3:28 PM, JC71 said: Have you considered Eugenix ? They are very good at managing the donor area and have more than reasonable pricing. Dr Bicer would be another consideration. Both are forum recommended. Could you tell me what is the price for Eugenix and Dr Bicer. Do they do manual Fue ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, grycha said: Could you tell me what is the price for Eugenix and Dr Bicer. Do they do manual Fue ? Eugenix have a varied price menu, Bicer is €1.50 for automated FUE and €2.50 for manual (at present) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AZ67 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, JC71 said: I just saw that Eugenix prices on this catalogue do not include tax. It says down on this page PLUS TAX. Do you know what's the tax x % ? For exclusive package for example which is 120 Rs (1.40 euro per graft), whats the final price after tax ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AZ67 said: I just saw that Eugenix prices on this catalogue do not include tax. It says down on this page PLUS TAX. Do you know what's the tax x % ? For exclusive package for example which is 120 Rs (1.40 euro per graft), whats the final price after tax ? 18% on top. So about €1.65 per graft. Edited November 5, 2021 by JC71 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ67 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, JC71 said: 18% on top. Ok good to learn about that. Thanks 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted November 5, 2021 Administrators Share Posted November 5, 2021 Your donor looks good for two surgeries, who was your surgeon? I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member grycha Posted November 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said: Your donor looks good for two surgeries, who was your surgeon? Dr Demirsoy and Przybylski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 Wow I remember your results .. It’s been years 😯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member grycha Posted November 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 hours ago, JC71 said: Eugenix have a varied price menu, Bicer is €1.50 for automated FUE and €2.50 for manual (at present) I have difficulties in choosing between each technic. Is automated as much efficient as manual or there is a risk that it can damage grafts during extraction ? And the same question regarding scar size ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member grycha Posted November 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, JC71 said: Wow I remember your results .. It’s been years 😯 Yes first Demirsoy in 2013 and Przybylski in 2019 but it was a failure cause about 30% grafts were put sucessfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, grycha said: I have difficulties in choosing between each technic. Is automated as much efficient as manual or there is a risk that it can damage grafts during extraction ? And the same question regarding scar size ? I wouldn’t get to caught up in the technique, more who’s doing the procedure. Automated is far less tiring, and does allow for a greater number or grafts to be done in a day. Think of Keser who does manual only and will do maybe up to 1000 grafts max per day! Edited November 6, 2021 by JC71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) I remember speaking to you when you was choosing between Demirsoy and Erdogan ? Or was it Doganay ? 2013 ? Damn 😯 Edited November 5, 2021 by JC71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member grycha Posted November 5, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, JC71 said: hmmm I dont know what to think about these packages. I would choose Premium but dr Arika Bansal only partly participate in whole operation. I dont know how much trained is the staff to extract and implant grafts. Edited November 5, 2021 by grycha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, grycha said: hmmm I dont know what to think about these packages. I would choose Premium but dr Arika Bansal only partly participate in whole operation. I dont know how much trained is the stuff to extract and implant grafts. Very well trained, and they have been with them for many years. It’s been mentioned over and over in either reviews or when patients speak about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 By all means though if you want to choose a Dr that’s involved throughout the ht and only does 1 a day ? Bicer would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 5, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2021 This chart shows what kind of involvement is usual depending on the Dr/Clinic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member grycha Posted November 6, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 6, 2021 15 hours ago, JC71 said: By all means though if you want to choose a Dr that’s involved throughout the ht and only does 1 a day ? Bicer would be ideal. Did you have ht in Bicer clinic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member grycha Posted November 6, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 6, 2021 15 hours ago, JC71 said: Very well trained, and they have been with them for many years. It’s been mentioned over and over in either reviews or when patients speak about them. So why they give options with Doctors intervention ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 6, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, grycha said: So why they give options with Doctors intervention ? Expand choices for all. People are happy with different levels of input. And it would depend on individual need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 6, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted November 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, grycha said: Did you have ht in Bicer clinic ? No, I have considered and consulted with her having followed her work for years. After x5 hts already I’m now looking for Beard grafts just to add density across my mid scalp and fill in my FUT scar. For Beard grafts I think Eugenix, Bisanga are doing particularly good work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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