nm76

Hi All,

I was going through some old pictures and came across one of my cousins - who is balding - or well i guess would be classified as being bald. I noticed he also has a lot of loss on the sides - not the typical crown and frontal area. He of course has never taken any meds for his hair loss.

That said, he is a few years older than I am and I am not sure i will bald to the extent he has - at least with respect to the sides. But this is what concerns me. The loss of density on the sides makes his scalp visible (in certain places) especially if there is bright lighting in the room. Now assuming I undergo a hair transplant - I would be looking to target my frontal third and then perhaps in time the crown.

The question, though, is what happens if i lose density/hair from the sides too?

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1. Can hair be transplanted in the sides or is it only the frontal third and crown areas?

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2. If i were to have hair loss in the sides, would the scar from my first HT be visible?

Thanks.

If you receive a hair transplant today and keep all or most of your native hair, you will have a good bit of density. If you lose native hair later down the road, you may decide you miss the density and want to further refine your hair transplant to add more density. Does that make sense?

 

Bill, I do understand _ I'm just wondering, given the current state my hair is in now, if I have about 2500 grafts done in the frontal third (with a slightly raised hair line) and I end up losing my native hairs - fair enough there will be less density, - but would this leave me at where I was before I had the HT? - Right now my scalp is visible at the frontal third area. So would losing my native hair result in my scalp becoming visible yet again? - or perhaps at a lesser extent?

Is tricho closure something specific to the HT doctor? What I mean is, is that a skilled procedure that they either know how to perform or do not?

Are there perhaps other types of closures?

I'm not sure I understand the refinement bit? with my frontal third being filled in with about 2500 grafts (with a slightly raised hair line) - even if i were to lose what native hair i have left. Wouldn't the new transplanted hair which is about 2500 grafts be enough, to cover that area - thus not requiring anymore work? Of course i'm excluding the crown - loss there would require additional work.

why not just say i've recently started taking minox... and propecia and that they've finally begin to show results. That's what I think I will do...not too comfortable with coming out myself.

Originally posted by orangehair:

NM76...........here are a few examples. Hope this helps: http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/352...801088973#5801088973

This looks very good, the patient also seems to have good donor hair, which i assume helps cover the scar at even shorter hair lengths.

thanks for referring me to this. I can hardly see the scar, but I can see where you say hairs are growing through it. That would be the ideal situation to be in, I guess, seeing as it would further mask the scar. Is this something that typically happens though?

by the way your hair loss appears to be similar to mine - just your your weblog. Check your own pictures:

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http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/journal.asp?CopyID=1202&WebID=557

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Over here you can see the scar a bit on the left side - that said, that is a picture of a pretty fresh scar and not one over a year old - which I assume would look different?.

by the way what was the quality of your donor hair?

Well actually now that you mention it both - i.e buzzed down to 1 or 2 or shaved slick. I know it sounds silly, that if you get your hair back - why would you want to shave it. I'm not sure - i worry perhaps I may not like my result and opt to shave it all off.

Hi,

I am told I have good donor hair (7/10) ranking. Its basically black thin hair. Anyway I was thinking if I were to have a hair transplant, in order to conserve donor hairs I would have my hairline raised a bit. My pictures are located here:

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http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/346...081066683#2081066683

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My loss is primarily in the frontal third, and I was thinking maybe I should have the hairline start from about 0.5 cm or less above what it is now? Does that sound like a plan? I am not too bothered about my scalp showing from where my current hair line is to whre the new one will be. I just want to conserve what donor hairs I have left should my hair loss proceed beyond the frontal third.

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has come across pictures of hair transplant scars - when there is no native hair covering, or around the scar. I just like to see how big this typically looks - in case i ever decide to buzz down - or well if i ever have one, for that matter.

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has come across pictures of hair transplant scars - when there is no native hair covering, or around the scar. I just like to see how big this typically looks - in case i ever decide to buzz down - or well if i ever have one, for that matter.

Hi,

Has anyone noticed these people? They really p*ss me off. An eye drifter, is someone who while in conversation with you starts looking at your balding areas.

I've never understood why? Here's the thing, for the longest time, even when I had more hair - I never used to stare at bald people. Or if I was in conversation with them, starting scanning their frontal area or sides. In fact I don't recall even making jokes (an entirely different discussion) about them. What is this fascination that people have? I asked someone once what they were looking at and they just smiled...I wish I had punched him after, it was such a dopey smile.

Dewayne - I totally agree - exactly how I feel.

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hatrick I get what you're saying - however I don't know I'm just not too keen on the idea - perhaps I may change my mind - still researching. But you say something that worries me. You say my hair transplant will look unnatural - If I choose to go down that road.

The thing is wouldn't the hair loss pattern you describe be the very same natural pattern that some men experience. That is loss at the crown first. In fact there is this guy at my work place, whose hair is thick on the front, on the sides but he has lost quite a bit at the crown - you can only tell if your standing behind him - other than that his hair looks great. That said wouldn't my hair loss in its current state, be deemed unnatural too? (which is actually the opposite of the example you've given) - where I have hair loss at the front while the back and crown are still okay - well alright maybe my crown is receded a bit.

See, this is what confuses me and what was part of one of my questions. If I plan the HT properly with the numbers I've mentioned, and hair loss does occur on my crown can't I go in for another procedure extract some of that donor hair i have and cover what can be covered to some extent?

I'm not too keen on getting on any meds. More so because of the possible side effects. I have enough body hair to need to welcome anymore. I also love getting it up when the hour requires me to do so - well not the hour per se, but anyway I do understand, also, that not everyone will experience these side effects....Here's the thing. I would assume its apparent that my hair loss is a very slow one, no? Considering I still have some native hair and I am 32 now and started losing hair at 18/19. Sure I could lose it all within a year too i suppose, but damn, I guess thats just life (i suppose i'd be thinking differently if it actually happens) but what I am getting at is this. Lets say that my donor area (which I am told is good, but not excellent and is thin hair) can only give me about 6000 grafts.

If i use the 2500 for the frontal area now, that leaves me with 3500 grafts. Now lets say over the years as I continue to bald, would I not have enough to at least cover the areas beyond the frontal part with some degree of density? - I do understand that perhaps I may not be able to have the 100 percent hair density that I want - but having a good frontal and a slightly receding crown and back is ok with me - after all it is the front I think that matters the most. With That said, would the use of the grafts in that manner be the right way to go?

I think I'm missing the point here ???

Originally posted by Smoothy:

If you go to a good surgeon and have plenty of donor hair, there is no way to really tell. If you have limited donor, then a person who is used to seeing HT, like experience paitent or doctor, might be able to see some thin area in direct sunlight or utlraviolet lighting, but it will only look naturally thinning with a good surgeon and couldnt be seperated from natural thinning person? I too can tell 80% of HT I see because the are not "natural looking" I have seen a few that were good that I couldn tell.

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Even when your donor hair is not excellent - how can the ht still be detected. For example say you are a norwood 6, you have your HT done - of course your not going to get the coverage or density you once had - but still would you not just look like someone who is losing hair? I mean, someone who has hair loss does not look like they have had a hair transplant do they?

Originally posted by Bill - Associate Publisher:

AJKV,

 

Depending on your level of hair loss, the result may appear a little thin in certain lights, but I believe first-rate surgeons today can make a hair transplant undetectable.

 

Even a little thin I think is still better than noticeably thin.

That said, under light you can see my scalp - but that doesn't mean I have had one. I'm not sure what the correlation between light and a HT is? could someone please explain? Or have I misinterpreted something here?

What about being over weight?

I mean I've noticed pictures of myself where I'm slightly over weight with a roundish face, compared to where i'm back in shape - and my hair looks better here. Being over weight, results in a puffier face (i know this doesn't increase your scalp size ) But what i'm trying to get at is the puffier face gives the illusion of a bigger scalp (just because in general your face is bigger) - if that makes sense - hence it looks like there is less hair covering it???

Does that make sense? I suppose I could have said just keep fit.

Thanks,

Here are three more - all under bright light - hair again slightly wet:

Front:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/DSC00060.jpg

Right:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/DSC00061.jpg

Left:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/DSC00062.jpg

By the way you might notice from some of the pictures that its a hot day and I was sweating while taking them - gets pretty humid here - so the front of my hair is slightly wet too - but i hope it gives some idea at least. At least the difference between a very bright light and average lighting can to some extent be seen.

I'll start with the pics with average lighting, his one is a front shot:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Avg_Front.gif

Here is another with average lighting of the front:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Avg_Front_2.jpg

The two that follow are also in average lighting with an attempt to take pictures of the left and right temple:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Avg_Left.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Avg_Right.jpg

All pictures below are taken from various angles under bright light:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/bright_Front.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Bright_Front2.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Bright-Right.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Bright_TBack.jpg

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Bright_Top_Back.jpg

I tried to get one of my top:

http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k466/nm76_hair/Bright_Top_Back2.jpg

Hi All,

The last time I posted on this subject the pictures I attached were poor quality. These ones I hope are a bit better. I have taken the pictures in average/normal lighting and in my bathroom with a bright light right above my head.

Since the last time I posted I met with one HT doctor who told me initially I would do with around 2500 grafts. Seeing as its not evident where my baldness will go - also given I am not keen on using propecia or minox - basically the HT will be the only way I will go.

That said, to help others give a more accurate response (if possible), I'll list some details about my hair loss and hair loss in general in my family - I say this because I want to start off with the right number of grafts (rather than waste what I could have used later on).

The characteristics of my hair?

Well I am told the quality is good, not great - I have thin black hair, which contrasts with the colour of my scalp.

I started losing hair at the age of 19, I am now 32. My father 'has' started balding but he is now 62 - his balding started this year - from the crown, most of my loss is from the front - this is the area I am planning on targeting. Other than that my grandad from my mums side would have been a norwood 6? the Julius Caesar type look - but he was like that into his 90's. Also if this helps from my mums side her brothers all ended up with thin hair - none have lost all their hair and they are into their 60's - they have very high hair lines though.

If pictures of me holding my hair back helps let me know and i'll post those.

I apologize for some of the angles - i know they might seem awkward