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  1. boy reviving this thread after a while - but i have a question for you joe. was just wondering about the texture of your hair in general? I guess people who have thick hair in their donor areas maybe benefit from a better overall result as opposed to those who have thin hair (taking into consideration the extent of their baldness). Would your hair fall under the thin/fine category? it kinda does look like it from the pictures - I could be wrong though. But if it is, it would make the result even more spectacular than it already is. Thanks
  2. my understanding and according to what i've read on this site, is that the majority of ppl do not reach the norwood 7 stage. is this not correct? i'm worried now...
  3. I have thin/fine black hair which contrasts with my fair skin. I have lost some hair on my frontal third. My vertex and crown are okay - although over the years they have thinned out a bit (including my sides). I am 32 right now and have been told I probably have around 6000 grafts. My initial goal would be to fill in my frontal third and I am told I need between 2500-3000 grafts for that. After my first procedure this would probably leave me with about 3000 grafts. Now assuming I lose hair on the vertex and the crown, would 3000 be enough to combat that loss? Should I even consider having a HT, with such a low number of grafts to begin with - I'd love to have some hair back, but at the same time it will not be the end of the world for me. Still having some hair is better than having to shave my scalp for the rest of my life - but not if 6000 thin caliber grafts would look odd over my scalp.
  4. Bill, I think you've understood what I was trying to say - at least your answer makes sense to me. I am not really concerned about how much hair can be harvested in one session. For example, assume someone has an average of 6000 grafts - depending on laxity 4000-5000 (probably more) can be harvested in one HT session. Then should another procedure be required, the remaining hair can be harvested - i understand the laxity factor here. I was more concerned about that initial 6000 figure or the total number of grafts someone has that can be used for ht procedures over time - what determines that?, and can it be improved?. Judging by your post "you can't do anything to improve the natural density of your hair." I guess that means if someone is estimated to have a total number of 6000 grafts - there is nothing that can be done to improve this figure? On a side note, it is this 6000 that is considered the natural density, right?
  5. so 2500-3000 grafts would b the range depending on whether the hair is thick to thin - or is that just the range for thick hair? Fair enough harsh lighting would show some scalp - how about the wind? Think back when you had a thicker mane, I know when I had mine, the wind would just mess it up. Now, though, apart from messing up the hair, the scalp is also visible. So, for someone who is completely bad and gets anywhere between 2500-3000 grafts how does the wind fare for them (assume no harsh lighting)?
  6. By donor density I am talking about the total number of grafts that can be harvested from the back of the head for transplant - if I am wrong here, let me know. With that said, is this just a genetic thing? and nothing can be done to improve the density? (I ask this in reference to someone who has never had a transplant)
  7. By donor density I am talking about the total number of grafts that can be harvested from the back of the head for transplant - if I am wrong here, let me know. With that said, is this just a genetic thing? and nothing can be done to improve the density? (I ask this in reference to someone who has never had a transplant)
  8. I know this would depend in part on the quality of the donor hair and the contrast between hair color and skin tone. But lets say we have two types: 1. Thick/coarse hair 2. thin/fine hair Lets say the contrast between skin tone and hair is against the individual - fair skin and black hair. Now with that in mind, how many number of grafts would be required to cover up the frontal third of a scalp such that no scalp shows in that area. Or at least give the illusion of no hair loss (I suppose the no scalp showing would require too many grafts that might not be feasible depending on baldness in other areas)?
  9. I know this would depend in part on the quality of the donor hair and the contrast between hair color and skin tone. But lets say we have two types: 1. Thick/coarse hair 2. thin/fine hair Lets say the contrast between skin tone and hair is against the individual - fair skin and black hair. Now with that in mind, how many number of grafts would be required to cover up the frontal third of a scalp such that no scalp shows in that area. Or at least give the illusion of no hair loss (I suppose the no scalp showing would require too many grafts that might not be feasible depending on baldness in other areas)?
  10. I think I actually mean both? Firstly, my hair is fine - yes fine caliber hair shaft. Secondly I guess I also have low donor density - seeing as I apparently only have around 6000 grafts. Which kind of makes me wonder is it possible for someone to have some a low number of grafts - considering they have never had a transplant? Or is it just the luck of the draw, that you can thin fine hair in addition to have low donor density? I guess I now understand having one does not mean you necessarily will have the other.
  11. But, would having thin hair restrict the amount of grafts that could be taken from the donor? My concern is this. I have never had a transplant ever. I went to have my donor hair looked at, and I asked how much (roughly) I have. I asked this, because, although, I am not totally bald - I wanted to fill up the frontal third which is thinning. For this I need about 2500 to 2700 grafts. Now if lose beyond my frontal third, the vertex and the crown I'd like to know if I have enough hair in my reserves to combat that. Hence I asked, the doc, how many grafts he thinks I have. I was told probably around 6000 - which could be used over time. I just thought 6000 seemed a little low - i thought on average people who have never had an ht would have at least 8000? I have good scalp laxity - I dont mind if it takes 2-3 sittings to get the 6000, I'm just wondering if my total number of 6000 would be a fair estimate of what I have. and whether because my hair is thin/fine it factors into this low number. thanks
  12. Does anybody know if there is an average for the number of grafts someone could have (who has never had a hair transplant)? Thing is I had my hair checked out, and I was told I probably have about 6000 grafts - that just seemed quite low to me - I do have thin/fine hair if that makes a difference. I need about 2500/2700 for my frontal third, which will leave me with 3500/3300. Which well doesn't seem like a lot.
  13. Does anybody know if there is an average for the number of grafts someone could have (who has never had a hair transplant)? Thing is I had my hair checked out, and I was told I probably have about 6000 grafts - that just seemed quite low to me - I do have thin/fine hair if that makes a difference. I need about 2500/2700 for my frontal third, which will leave me with 3500/3300. Which well doesn't seem like a lot.
  14. i live in islamabad, message me if you want me to check him out. That said, it has already been mentioned in this thread, twice, that dr mohmand is the recommended ht doctor on this site - would you not prefer at least checking him out first? His work is posted on here too - for you to decide on the quality of his work.
  15. So I'm wondering, if there is some kind of concealer or whatever it is, which can give the look we see in the third picture (post previous to this one). Sure the hair is slightly more grown (longer), but its not at a length to give that much coverage is it?
  16. Now , look at this picture - sure there is less lighting, but is it enough to give off the effect we see here. Where apparently there is stubble all over the scalp.
  17. Okay, to illustrate the point - check out these two pictures (sure perhaps its not the halo, i mentioned earlier, but you can see an area beyond the hair line, where quite evidently it looks like there is no hair):
  18. Tommyf, on your weblog, you say you started to lose your hair around the age of 30. You also say that it seemed to stabilize around the age of 35-37. Since it had been almost 7-9, years till you went and had an ht - would you say your hair did not worsen during that time, or if it did it was very minor?
  19. Just checked out your shaved down pics - i actually think they are pretty good. That said, I could only see the one from the back and side profile - these look fine to me. I could not find one with a front view. In any case good luck. by the way looking at the pics, it appears you had thick donor hair - is this the case?
  20. This is pretty interesting - Now if I could find a clinic that has one of these: The Medical Science of Hair Loss : Miniaturization occurs in men and women who are balding. Miniaturization is the process where a normal thickness hair shaft becomes thinner and thinner over time due to the genetically determined effects of aging and/or androgenic hormones on the terminal (normal) hair follicle. The process of miniaturization is a slow process in genetic balding. Hair shafts may lose 10% of their diameter, then 20%, then 30% and so on. Each degree of increased miniaturization reflects further progression of the genetic balding process. The instruments that measure miniaturization were invented (and patented) by me in the early 1990s and they are in wide spread use today. Socially detectable hair loss is not evident until more than 60% of the hair has been lost and as a result, many men do not seek out expert help until they see some evidence of balding (which they too often deny). When a doctor views the scalp hair with high magnification, the degree of miniaturization and the location of the miniaturization are both critical to establishing (1) the diagnosis and (2) the rate of the process, which progresses over time. Because miniaturization is a relative measurement at any one time (comparing finer hair to the thickest hair), it takes substantial experience before this measurement can be useful to the individual clinician. In our experience, from examining and following thousands of patients with the Hair Densitometer, we have found that assessing the degree of miniaturization has useful predictive value when evaluating the risks of hair loss and in establishing hair loss patterns. The amount of miniaturization in each section of the scalp tells the physician just how far the balding is progressing or has progressed. In men who show more and more areas of miniaturization over time, the genetic balding can be considered active. A high degree of miniaturization in the upper portion of the fringe area in a Norwood Class 6 pattern (see below in red) suggests that the donor fringe will lower over time so a person who may be a Class 6 pattern balding pattern may become a Class 7 pattern, reducing the fring around the sides and back to a 3 1/3 inch band. A high degree of miniaturization throughout the donor area indicates that all of the patient's hair may be unstable for hair transplantation and that he may be at risk to have diffuse unpatterned alopecia with extensive balding, even on the sides and in the back of the head (an area normally not affected by any balding or miniaturization in most men). The unpatterned alopecia is characteristic of women's genetic balding pattern which is often found all over the head including the back and sides. Miniaturization in the recipient area (front, top and crown) can often delineate which areas of the scalp are most likely to bald and which are stable, anticipating the patient's future Norwood hair loss classification. If a man has 90% miniaturization in the crown (back of the head) and only 30% in the mid scalp, the physician may assume that the crown is at a higher risk of earlier hair loss than the mid-scalp, giving him an eventual Class 4 or 5 balding pattern. We feel that in predicting the short-term loss, the extent of miniaturization in the recipient area, as well as the rapidity of the loss, is critical in establishing the guidelines for treatment, whether it is a hair transplant or drug intervention. In the very early stages of hair loss (the many in his early-mid twenties), increased miniaturization can anticipate future balding even before any loss can be seen to the naked eye. Often the reason a person seeks a consultation for hair restoration expert is that there is some change in the "rate" of his hair loss (often more hair seen on the pillow or in the shower). A patient who is very gradually losing his hair is less likely to seek help than a patient who suddenly has acceleration in the rate that he is losing hair. Usually large numbers of hairs undergo miniaturization before any are actually lost and the time the drugs are most effective is in this early phase. In men, DHT is the hormone responsible for these changes. For the most reliable prediction of the final hair loss pattern, the patient should be over the age of 25 (above 30 is better) and have some visual evidence that the process has started. A base measurement and subsequent follow up measurements are essential to the proper management of hair loss by any doctor considered to be an expert in the field. By understanding these measurements over time, the doctor will understand just what this all means and better yet, the patient now has a way to follow what is happening to him/her. Many young men worry about following their father's or mother's male family balding history and come to the office to find out what their future has in store for them. The microscopic assessment for miniaturization is the best way to determine this. With successful medical (drug) treatments like Propecia in men, the miniaturization may be reversed (partly or completely). The responsiveness of each patient is different, so each patient must be diligent in follow up measurements of the degree of miniaturization and the location of the miniaturization by scalp location. The same diagnostic criteria should and must be followed in women. Without good measurements for miniaturization, there is no clinical science in the treatment of hair loss, just hocus-pocus and blustering, a problem that is far too frequent today. Source: http://www.baldingblog.com/2005/11/11/the-medical-science-of-hair-loss/
  21. This is what Dr Rassman has to say: "Most people start their balding process in their early 20s, some like you in the late 20s and a few after 30. The general rule is that for those who have hair loss in their 20s, most of it will slow down by the mid 30s and by the time the person reaches 40-45, it should slow down even further. There are no real rules other than what you see. You can anticipate it by mapping out your hair for miniaturization to see what the future may hold for you. " Source : http://www.baldingblog.com/2006/06/27/when-does-hair-loss-stop/
  22. So, I saw babylon and noticed that vin diesels scalp appears to be covered by stubble. I've noticed this in another movie a while back too. But here's the thing, I'm sure I have seen him in other movies and just general pictures, where its pretty clear that he doesn't have hair on the top and some loss at the crown. Sure if its been freshly shaved you'd have a pretty smooth look all over the scalp. But what I've seen in older movies/pics that he has a halo (if you will) of stubble there is the appearance of a hair line - sides and back but nothing on top. Now in babylon he apparently has an entire scalp of stubble. Am I seeing this wrong? If not, and since I've never used nor read about them - is this something concealers help with ?
  23. Thats true, I just wonder if the cards are dealt such that one loses hair till a nw4 stage or nw5 or even a stage in between nw3 and nw4. I look at the men on my mums side, they have really thin hair a high hair line, but are not completely bald - they are into their 60's and you can no see some loss occurring into the crown. I then look at the men on my dads side - none of his brothers are bald but i have three cousins that have varying degrees of hair loss (my hair is better than theirs). Everyone else is fine (4 guys with mpb out of 22 cousins).....never was a poker kinda guy.....perhaps that is the reason.
  24. whoaa 40 till you got to a 3 or 4, i assume you have not had a ht? if so any plans?
  25. What about dwayne johson (the rock, from wwf) - he seems to have the same hair line for ages now - i suspect its a ht or something?
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