finnari

I just had a HT with Dr. Keene. I am still waiting for the results to come to fruition so I am holding off the complete evaluation but the actual HT procedure went well and it cost me 5700 dollars for 1500 grafts and I have a lot more hair then you.

I think you need well into the 3000 graft range for starters and then you will need more grafts later when the little hair you have left falls out.

The drugs are something I am also thinking about. I work in the health care field and know drugs are not without side effects. Most people take them with full confidence that their doctor knows best. Just look at all the problems people have later when they discover that the drugs they were taking cause a slew of health problems later on. By then the drug company has made a lot of money and doesnt mind paying off the lawsuits. Cost of doing business. It's quite a racket these drug companies and their doctor whores have got going. All the politicians are paid off too.

have you guys experienced any loss of libido or drive on the drug? I heard that it could happen.

what dose are you guys on. I am going to go ahead and get on the drug. I heard 1 mg. every other day is a good dose.

What other drugs are essential to maintaining what you have?

what dose are you guys on. I am going to go ahead and get on the drug. I heard 1 mg. every other day is a good dose.

What other drugs are essential to maintaining what you have?

Originally posted by folica:

A quote from a dermatolgist I read online said

" I would rather poke darning needles in my eyes than become a Hairtransplant surgeon"

 

It is very very tedious work & is suited only for the most patient surgeons.

 

During my surgery I had to ask, " Are you making each individual recipient incision free hand?"

Although I knew it was the only way, ( I have heard of some surgeons using a multiple bladed aparatus ) I couldn't believe the painstaking tedious process that the surgeon endures for hours!

Nope not for me!

Thank god for patient, talented surgeons willing to perform this type of surgery!

Its a lot easier work then lets say general surgery where your opening up people's guts and their lives on the line. Then all the calls in the middle of the night. Its a lot of long hours to become a surgeon. Doing hair transplants and having a successful practice is much easier then the life of your typical surgeon. Think about it most of the work is done by the technicians.

Let me assure you being a online guru is different from the rigors of medical school and residency. And that's not taking away from guys on here but its a whole different ball of wax trying to become a doctor.

Not sure why people think all doctors are good. Every profession has good and bad including doctors. They just escape the normal srutiny that other professions do. They are a closed society and difficult to make them accountable.

That is why I love this type of website. Power to the people.

That's awsome. I also like dealing with businesses that dont put pressure on me. If their good their work speaks for itself. I wish others would take this approach more but in this cut throat business world we live in they all feel like they need to pressure us to pay up.

At what point post op is it normal for the transplanted hairs to shed? I have noticed some in my hat at post op day 10.

If they fall out sooner does it mean it failed?

At what point post op is it normal for the transplanted hairs to shed? I have noticed some in my hat at post op day 10.

If they fall out sooner does it mean it failed?

I'm glad your surgery itself was a positive experience.

I see a pattern with a lot of people. They were treated "nicely" and call the doctor a "top surgeon".

The results ultimatly are the trademark of a great surgeon. I hope you get that great result to go along with the good initial experience.

I think Acquarius deserves some props here for calling the situation spot on. (Mabe his crazy humour masks the brilliance?).

Sometimes the truth really hurts and fuzzywuzzy hopefully will get a decent result. But like Acq. stated she deserves better. Another mediocre doctor exposed for his work.

As an RN I understand the differences in work that doctors can do.

Accountability is a very difficult concept for a lot of them to understand.

Reading threads like this gives me a lot of confidence in this site.

Originally posted by finnari:

Originally posted by finnari:

What is missing here is advice on using food and supplements to heal. Your body heals from the inside out. I am a bit of a nutrution geek and believe strongly in viewing food like medicine.

 

I was red free and went out post op day three without a hat.

 

Every day I drink fresh organic smoothies with blueberries, strawberries and bananas. I also juice an apple with a lot of carrots in the afternoon. These are filled with anti-oxidents and will help your skin look better and heal quicker. I drink 8-10 glasses of good water per day. I use various supplements. I exercise a lot.

 

I heal very fast at the age of 41.

 

I do appreciate all the advice about the shampooing of the head. I think I have been to scared to use my fingers I have been mostly patting my head. But better safe then tearing into the grafts. Dr. Keenes assisant told me using the saline you use to clean contact lenses are okay. I used a spray bottle every hour or two the first three days.

 

I would advise you to see the big picture. Going out or on trips and perhaps removing grafts scabs prematurely may jeaprodize your final result.

My breakdown from Dr. Keene's surgery are as following: (1500 grafts)

Ones: 200

two's: 500

threes: 633

fours: 283

She said she gave me some freebies as some dont take. Right now I am post op day number 10.

Within three days I was out without a hat on vacation in San Diego. No redness present. Right now some of the hairs are falling out and my scalp is still healing but it looks great.

Still waiting to see how it grows out before I declare Dr. Keene and the procedure a success.

Originally posted by Bill:

I dont like chicks that dig the bald types

 

that's a strange statement IMO...

 

I don't think girls that like bald guys have a type! Many of the same types of girls have different tastes.

 

There's this one girl at my gym who is married to a bald guy, about my age (complete NW6), shaves the sides and his back to match the top. The girl is very pretty and certainly just as pretty as other girls I have dated and would consider dating.

 

Anyway...

 

It's all personal preference.

 

Bill

Your right I was refering more to the tattood biker tough guy.

Many guys at my gym are bald and pleasant looking fellows with "hot" wives.

I guess its a matter of feeling comfortable about yourself. Women can sense that vibe in guys. If you like yourself others will like you too.

Dr. Keene's staff told me using the contact lens saline solution was completely fine. It has some other stuff in it but I had no problems with it.

I have been thinking a little bit more in depth about this HT process and one subject I have not seen on here yet piqued my interest.

I have been a R.N. for 15 yrs. and have a different perspective of physicians then the general public might. I get the impression most people see the title Doctor by a persons name and assume to some degree they are highly skilled practicioner. In my years of working in the I.C.U. I have seen the skill levels of doctors vary greatly.

What has been the experience of most people on here in terms of knowing the background of their doctors. Were they general practicioners who learned HT in a weekend seminar working with oranges? Do they have some sort of surgical background? Titles can be very misleading. For instance: a general M.D. can call himself a plastic surgeon although he is not a board certified plastic surgeon.

Being a surgeon doesnt guarantee that one will be a good HT surgeon either. I have seen some shoddy work by surgeons and they had their hospital privleges revoked. I remember visiting a vascular surgeon who went into HT work. Now vascular work is very fine work requiring good coordination. But his HT work looked terrible in his photos. So it begs another question: why did these general surgeons or other types of surgeons go into HT? Were they inadequete in their fields or did they see an opportunity to make easy money in a less stressful enviroments. (I do think the latter is very appealing to doctors who work all day and then get called during the night by dumb nurses asking dumb questions).

I have been thinking a little bit more in depth about this HT process and one subject I have not seen on here yet piqued my interest.

I have been a R.N. for 15 yrs. and have a different perspective of physicians then the general public might. I get the impression most people see the title Doctor by a persons name and assume to some degree they are highly skilled practicioner. In my years of working in the I.C.U. I have seen the skill levels of doctors vary greatly.

What has been the experience of most people on here in terms of knowing the background of their doctors. Were they general practicioners who learned HT in a weekend seminar working with oranges? Do they have some sort of surgical background? Titles can be very misleading. For instance: a general M.D. can call himself a plastic surgeon although he is not a board certified plastic surgeon.

Being a surgeon doesnt guarantee that one will be a good HT surgeon either. I have seen some shoddy work by surgeons and they had their hospital privleges revoked. I remember visiting a vascular surgeon who went into HT work. Now vascular work is very fine work requiring good coordination. But his HT work looked terrible in his photos. So it begs another question: why did these general surgeons or other types of surgeons go into HT? Were they inadequete in their fields or did they see an opportunity to make easy money in a less stressful enviroments. (I do think the latter is very appealing to doctors who work all day and then get called during the night by dumb nurses asking dumb questions).

Originally posted by folica:

A guy at 20 who shaves his head can look cool. A guy at 40 who does it looks pathetic.

I agree, and a guy at 50 looks psycho!

Not to mention a lot of bald guys look like they should be wearing orange prison jump suits.

Some chicks dig the bald guys. I dont like chicks that dig the bald types.

Originally posted by Bill:

Finnari,

 

Don't get me wrong...placing the grafts properly IS an important part of the process. I just don't feel it's necessary for the doctor to transplant the grafts IF the technicians have been properly trained. Making the incisions will determine how the hair will grow, whereas proper care and placement of the grafts will determine IF they will grow.

 

Ok...it makes more sense to me that you would have gotten an uneven number of grafts.

 

I would be curious if I were you, so I'd sent an email to Dr. Keene and staff asking exactly how many grafts you received. Also, if you want to see if they have hair count breakdowns (1s, 2s, 3s, 4s, etc), that would be helpful as well.

 

Grow well my friend!

 

Bill

Thanks for the information on asking for the breakdowns. I will definatly do that.

Originally posted by Aquarius:

JRbrassballs;

No your not . Like he said you didn't even read the thread before making your own denegrading comments.Followed by your X-spurt opinion.

That might work in the double wide but not here.

Fin has been upfront before and aft.

He also ran the gauntlet and was the bigger man for it by making the finance concern/lack of tact on their part a non- issue.

Nothing you have said makes any sense at all.

Go rant elsewere then come back with something else.

Your insulted . Good because you are an idiot.

Dude you seriously should be writing for a comedy show or something.

"That might work in a double wide but not in here".

Cracked me up and mabe even Mr. Scottsdale can lighten up a bit.

My pleasure folica people like you, Bill and others appreciate an account of the entire procedure. I could sugarcoat everthing like Mr. Scottsdale is apparently comfortable with but I just state it as it is.

Originally posted by Jrbrass:

Bottom line here is during your consultation I'm sure you were told that the procedure had to be paid up front two weeks prior to surgery. If you didn't like her policies on the advance payment, then you can always go to another doctor. It seems rather odd to go with Dr. Keene and pay in advance and then complain about it. It's pretty simple, if you don't care for the doctor, what the doctor says or any part of their polcies, DON'T HAVE THAT DOCTOR DO THE TRNASPLANT, GO TO SOMEONE ELSE.

Your a complete idiot who hasnt read the entire thread. I was actually not complaining about paying for the procedure upfront as much as how the mix up in communication resulted in some unprofessional calls from their offcie to me and my wife.

Next time get informed before you sound so stupid.

I think guys like JR brass are misinterpreting my account of my experience.

LIKE I STATED THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS ENTIRE PROCEDURE IS THE RESULT.

I just wanted to detail all of the experience so people can get an idea of what the entire experience is like. I didnt even talk to Dr. Keene until I was in the chair ready to get numbed. Meeting her before it all began would have been ideal but we did discuss what we were going to do. She even told me that during making her incisions she couldnt talk because she was counting. I was perfectly okay with that. To say she is personal is a bit of a reach but I work as an ICU nurse in a major hospital and know that many of the better surgeons have limited interpersonal skills. I would rather have a good surgical experience then a good conversation.

If I was making all this money doing surgeries I would have updated chairs and office equipment. But that is just me.