Bluesman

What about Ray Liotta?

It's obviuos that the head in the pictures on your webpage is tilted at different angles in each pic giving the illusion that the hairline has moved. In fact , the frontal part looks thicker in the "before" picture.

At 2 weeks post op , about 50-60% of the hair that was grafted have made their exodus and I imagine the rest will have gone by the time the 4 week mark arrives. It is going to be a tough few months of anticipation until the new guys start to come in. It's only 2 weeks and already I'm impatient!

At 2 weeks post op , about 50-60% of the hair that was grafted have made their exodus and I imagine the rest will have gone by the time the 4 week mark arrives. It is going to be a tough few months of anticipation until the new guys start to come in. It's only 2 weeks and already I'm impatient!

All this talk about scars being so evident but are they really? I have seen 2 guys close up who buzzed their heads extremely close. Both had procedures and both had to point out where the scars where to me. We all look at pictures of scars that are from a few weeks to a few months old. The ones that I have seen that are several years old were virtually non existant.

Some doctors will want to charge and some don't. I was estimated for 1200 grafts with Dr. Ron Shapiro and my strip yielded 1584. I wasn't charged for the extra 384.

Just thuoght I'd let you guys know. I'm 7 day post op and everything is great. I actually played a live concert on day 5. I did the show without a problem. As of today all the scabs are gone and quite a few of the small single hairs with them. 3 more days until my stitches come out! [This message was edited by Bluesman on September 23, 2003 at 03:35 PM.]

Quebec is the cheapest if you live here. The government subsidizes the cost of many drugs with a government run insurance policy. Proscar is one of them. I pay $12 cdn (about $9usd) for 15 pills which lasts 2 months. It works out to .80 a pill $72 cdn or about $50 usd a year!

Hey guys. I just thought I'd let you know. I'm 4 days post-op and still no numbness what so ever.

Well I'm only 3 days post-op and I was out driving the car. I had to back up and turned around rather quickly and felt a pain at the suture line in the very back. It is still feeling a little tender as I'm writing this. I hope I didn't mess anything up. The exterior stitches seem fine. I hope the inner ones are OK.

No one has done a clinical study as to what the survival rate is when packed so densely. If the survival rate goes down with more density packed in a single session then it is defeating the purpose. You can pack 80 units per CM2 but if only 70% survive you land up with 56 units per CM2 and a lot of wasted grafts. The day some one comes out with a proven case history study is the day I will believe that 80 units per CM2 is possible. Why is it some docs have lesser results with higher # of grafts. Survival rate is a very important issue when it comes to dense packing.

baldbozo : My age doesn't appear to be 48 yrs old, it is 48 yrs old. I've been told it appears much younger! Maybe that's what rock'n roll does to you! I'm probably pickled from all those years of abuse. (not any more though) I personally feel that I was an EXCELLENT candidate. 1) I'm in the public eye . 2) I have an excellent donor area. 3) fair brown hair with fairly coarse thickness and slight wave. Why should I have to endure feelings of anxiety everytime the spotlight hits me? I had the means to do something about it and I did.

Bob C The before pics of my hairline are actualy quite flattering and don't really demonstrate how far I was receded at the temples. I could show you different angles in other shots that would not look as good. As far as where the 1580 grafts went, Dr. Shapiro reinforced inside the hairline on one side that was much weaker than the other.He covered an area of about 32cm2. Did I really need a HT? Maybe not. Do any of us NEED a HT? Probably not.It is always a question of vanity. I am a professional guitar player (You have surely heard me on record) and I have an ego which mostly all performers do. I just wanted to look the absolute best I could on stage. PS: at 48 yrs old, I'm pretty sure my hairloss has stabilized [This message was edited by Bluesman on September 18, 2003 at 10:01 AM.]

I posted pics in "Post your opinions here"

Well I am now 2 days post- op from my hairline work with Dr. Ron Shapiro and let me tell you that the whole experience was easy and even enjoyable. I arrived on Sept. 15 after almost missing my connecting flight due to a late take off of the 1st flight because of an airplane problem. I was hoping this was not a sign of things to come! I arrived in Minneapolis and went straight to Shapiro Medical center where I first met with Matt Zupan who by the way is a terrific guy.(everybody there was terrific) We discussed my expectations and a few other things and then Dr. Shapiro came into the room. We introduced ourselves ,again discussed my expectations , talked some more while looking at results of similar cases to mine and then he started drawing a new hairline on me. Dr. Paul Rose was there and came in to introduce himself. It turns out he is a guitar collector and player same as myself. I'm a pro by the way. I am also world renowned in the vintage guitar field so we spoke quite a bit about guitars. Dr. Shapiro and I discussed some more and then said our good-byes until the following morning Day of the procedure: I arrive at 8:30 am and Dr. Shapiro once again does some artwork on my forehead. We the proceed to the surgury room where I am made comfortable and given my meds which consisted of 20 mg valium , some antibiotics and one more which I'm not certain but I think may have been prednisone. After taking my blood pressure , I am now given the local anesthetic and the strip excursion commences . It took less than 1 hr from the time I was given the meds and anesthetics until the strip was removed and I was completely sutured. Incidentally, Dr. Shapiro will use both staples and suturing depending on the patient. He said I would be good for either and I chose suturing. My donor strip was 14 cm by about 1 cm and was estimated that size to yield about 1200 grafts. It turned out to yield 1584 grafts!! I was extremely pleased since I knew I was getting 384 grafts for free which represents a savings of about $1700. Dr. Shapiro remarked on how great my donor sight was and said I will never run out of donor hair no matter how I progress in the future. One of the assistant techs (I can't remember which one) also commented saying "That is going to be one strong hairline!" We were al gabbing so much and the time was passing so quickly that I forgot to ask about watching any movies or watching television. Lunch time came and went after which Dr. Shapiro finished up making the majority of the recipient sites. Dr.Paul Rose and Dr. Paul Shapiro (Ron's brother who is studying with Ron) both popped in every once in a while. We were all talking so much that at times they had to tell me to shut up because I was moving too much. LOL . It was only the last 1 hr or so that I found long since I never watched any movies or TV and at that point DR. Shapiro was doing the stick and place . Apparently the last hr or so is the fine tuning point and has a great effect on what the final look of a hairline will be. It was around 5:30 pm by the time I got out of the chair and after a few minutes of gabbing and getting my post-op instructions, we all said our good-byes and I walked back to the Hilton with my friend who had accompanied me on the trip. She incidentally spent the better part of the afternoon shopping at the Mall of America and spent a small fortune! That night we did not go out to eat and ordered room service and watched a couple of movies. I was not tired at all not did I feel any pain what so ever. There was very little bleeding for the 1st few hrs and after I changed the towel , there was none the following morning. The next morning I decided to wash my own hair instead of waiting to go back to SMG . At around 8:30 am we went back to SMG and Dr. Shapiro inspected his artwork. He took a macro photo of 1 cm2 to calculate density and figured conservatively at around 50 units by cm2. After about 30mins of inspecting and talking we said our good-byes and I reluctantly headed for the airport. Honestly, the whole procedure from beginning to end was so enjoyable and so easy, I would not have a second thought about doing it again if I should ever need it. ( I probably won't though.) I would highly recommend Shapiro Medical Group to anyone who is considering a procedure. I'll post some pics and I hope to put together a small website showing my new more youthful hairline as it comes in. That is going to be the hard part, trying to be patient and hoping the result meets my expectations.( I'm sure it will) Incidentally , at day 2, I have absolutely NO numbness anywhere on my scalp at all! Has anyone else ever gotten away feeling no numbness after their procedure? Morning before surgury. Taking pics just before procedure During surgury... Just finishing... Sutured donor site (pic taken that night) Morning after.....(wet) At the airport heading home....... closeup of hairline work 2nd day post-op befor morning wash..... [This message was edited by Bluesman on September 23, 2003 at 04:03 PM.]

Well I am now 2 days post- op from my hairline work with Dr. Ron Shapiro and let me tell you that the whole experience was easy and even enjoyable. I arrived on Sept. 15 after almost missing my connecting flight due to a late take off of the 1st flight because of an airplane problem. I was hoping this was not a sign of things to come! I arrived in Minneapolis and went straight to Shapiro Medical center where I first met with Matt Zupan who by the way is a terrific guy.(everybody there was terrific) We discussed my expectations and a few other things and then Dr. Shapiro came into the room. We introduced ourselves ,again discussed my expectations , talked some more while looking at results of similar cases to mine and then he started drawing a new hairline on me. Dr. Paul Rose was there and came in to introduce himself. It turns out he is a guitar collector and player same as myself. I'm a pro by the way. I am also world renowned in the vintage guitar field so we spoke quite a bit about guitars. Dr. Shapiro and I discussed some more and then said our good-byes until the following morning Day of the procedure: I arrive at 8:30 am and Dr. Shapiro once again does some artwork on my forehead. We the proceed to the surgury room where I am made comfortable and given my meds which consisted of 20 mg valium , some antibiotics and one more which I'm not certain but I think may have been prednisone. After taking my blood pressure , I am now given the local anesthetic and the strip excursion commences . It took less than 1 hr from the time I was given the meds and anesthetics until the strip was removed and I was completely sutured. Incidentally, Dr. Shapiro will use both staples and suturing depending on the patient. He said I would be good for either and I chose suturing. My donor strip was 14 cm by about 1 cm and was estimated that size to yield about 1200 grafts. It turned out to yield 1584 grafts!! I was extremely pleased since I knew I was getting 384 grafts for free which represents a savings of about $1700. Dr. Shapiro remarked on how great my donor sight was and said I will never run out of donor hair no matter how I progress in the future. One of the assistant techs (I can't remember which one) also commented saying "That is going to be one strong hairline!" We were al gabbing so much and the time was passing so quickly that I forgot to ask about watching any movies or watching television. Lunch time came and went after which Dr. Shapiro finished up making the majority of the recipient sites. Dr.Paul Rose and Dr. Paul Shapiro (Ron's brother who is studying with Ron) both popped in every once in a while. We were all talking so much that at times they had to tell me to shut up because I was moving too much. LOL . It was only the last 1 hr or so that I found long since I never watched any movies or TV and at that point DR. Shapiro was doing the stick and place . Apparently the last hr or so is the fine tuning point and has a great effect on what the final look of a hairline will be. It was around 5:30 pm by the time I got out of the chair and after a few minutes of gabbing and getting my post-op instructions, we all said our good-byes and I walked back to the Hilton with my friend who had accompanied me on the trip. She incidentally spent the better part of the afternoon shopping at the Mall of America and spent a small fortune! That night we did not go out to eat and ordered room service and watched a couple of movies. I was not tired at all not did I feel any pain what so ever. There was very little bleeding for the 1st few hrs and after I changed the towel , there was none the following morning. The next morning I decided to wash my own hair instead of waiting to go back to SMG . At around 8:30 am we went back to SMG and Dr. Shapiro inspected his artwork. He took a macro photo of 1 cm2 to calculate density and figured conservatively at around 50 units by cm2. After about 30mins of inspecting and talking we said our good-byes and I reluctantly headed for the airport. Honestly, the whole procedure from beginning to end was so enjoyable and so easy, I would not have a second thought about doing it again if I should ever need it. ( I probably won't though.) I would highly recommend Shapiro Medical Group to anyone who is considering a procedure. I'll post some pics and I hope to put together a small website showing my new more youthful hairline as it comes in. That is going to be the hard part, trying to be patient and hoping the result meets my expectations.( I'm sure it will) Incidentally , at day 2, I have absolutely NO numbness anywhere on my scalp at all! Has anyone else ever gotten away feeling no numbness after their procedure? Morning before surgury. Taking pics just before procedure During surgury... Just finishing... Sutured donor site (pic taken that night) Morning after.....(wet) At the airport heading home....... closeup of hairline work 2nd day post-op befor morning wash..... [This message was edited by Bluesman on September 23, 2003 at 04:03 PM.]

Well I am now 2 days post- op with Dr. Ron Shapiro and let me tell you that the whole experience was easy and even enjoyable. I arrived on Sept. 15 after almost missing my connecting flight due to a late take off of the 1st flight because of an airplane problem. I was hoping this was not a sign of things to come! I arrived in Minneapolis and went straight to Shapiro Medical center where I first met with Matt Zupan who by the way is a terrific guy. We discussed my expectations and a few other things and then Dr. Shapiro came into the room. We introduced ourselves ,again dicussed my expectations , talked some more and then he started drawing a new hairline on me. Dr. Paul Rose was there and came in to introduce himself. It turns out he is a guitar collector and player same as myself. I'm a pro by the way. I am also world renowned in the vintage guitar field so we spoke quite a bit about guitars. Dr. Shapiro and I discussed some more and then said our good-byes until the following morning Day of the procedure: I arrive at 8:30 am and Dr. Shapiro once again does some artwork on my forehead. We the proceed to the surgury room where I am made comfortable and given my meds which consisted of 20 mg valium , some antibiotics and one more which I'm not certain but I think may have been prednisone. After taking my blood pressure , I am now given the local anesthetic and the strip excursion commences . It took less than 1 hr from the time I was given the meds and anesthetics until the strip was removed and I was completely sutured. Incidentally, Dr. Shapiro will use both staples and suturing depending on the candidacy of the patient. He said I would be good for either and I chose suturing. My donor strip was 14 cm by about 1 cm and was estimated that size to yield about 1200 grafts. It turned out to yield 1584 grafts!! I was extremely pleased since I knew I was getting 384 grafts for free which represents a savings of about $1700. Dr. Shapiro remarked on how great my donor sight was and said I will never run out of donor hair no matter how I progress in the future. One of the assistant techs (I can't remember which one) also commented saying "That is going to be one strong hairline!" We were al gabbing so much and the time was passing so quickly that I forgot to ask about watching any movies or watching television. Lunch time came and went after which Dr. Shapiro finished up making the majority of the recipient sites. Dr.Paul Rose and Dr. Paul Shapiro (Ron's brother who is studying with Ron) both popped in every once in a while. We were all talking so much that at times they had to tell me to shut up because I was moving too much. LOL . It was only the last 1 hr or so that I found long since I never watched any movies or TV and at that point DR. Shapiro was doing the stick and place . Apparently the last hr or so is the fine tuning point and has a great effect on what the final look of a hairline will be. It was around 5:30 pm by the time I got out of the chair and after a few minutes of gabbing and getting my post-op instructions, we all said our good-byes and I walked back to the Hilton with my friend who had accompanied me on the trip. She incidentally spent the better part of the afternoon shopping at the Mall of America and spent a small fortune! That night we did not go out to eat and ordered room service and watched a couple of movies. I was not tired at all not did I feel any pain what so ever. There was very little bleeding for the 1st few hrs and after I changed the towel , there was none the following morning. The next morning I decided to wash my own hair instead of waiting to go back to SMG . At around 8:30 am we went back to SMG and Dr. Shapiro inspected his work. He took a macro photo of 1 cm2 to calculate density and figured conservatively at around 50 units by cm2. After about 30mins of inspecting and talking we said our good-byes and I reluctantly headed for the airport. Honestly, the whole procedure from beginning to end was so enjoyable and so easy, I would not have a second thought about doing it again if I should ever need it. ( I probably won't though.) I would recommend Shapiro Medical Group to anyone who is considering a procedure. I'll post some pics and I hope to put together a small website showing my new more youthful hairline as it comes in. Thais is going to be the hard part, trying to be patient and hoping the result meets my expectations. Incidentally , at day 2, I have absolutely NO numbness anywhere on my scalp at all! Has anyone else ever gotten away feeling no numbness after their procedure? [This message was edited by Bluesman on September 18, 2003 at 06:37 AM.]

Well I am now 2 days post- op with Dr. Ron Shapiro and let me tell you that the whole experience was easy and even enjoyable. I arrived on Sept. 15 after almost missing my connecting flight due to a late take off of the 1st flight because of an airplane problem. I was hoping this was not a sign of things to come! I arrived in Minneapolis and went straight to Shapiro Medical center where I first met with Matt Zupan who by the way is a terrific guy. We discussed my expectations and a few other things and then Dr. Shapiro came into the room. We introduced ourselves ,again dicussed my expectations , talked some more and then he started drawing a new hairline on me. Dr. Paul Rose was there and came in to introduce himself. It turns out he is a guitar collector and player same as myself. I'm a pro by the way. I am also world renowned in the vintage guitar field so we spoke quite a bit about guitars. Dr. Shapiro and I discussed some more and then said our good-byes until the following morning Day of the procedure: I arrive at 8:30 am and Dr. Shapiro once again does some artwork on my forehead. We the proceed to the surgury room where I am made comfortable and given my meds which consisted of 20 mg valium , some antibiotics and one more which I'm not certain but I think may have been prednisone. After taking my blood pressure , I am now given the local anesthetic and the strip excursion commences . It took less than 1 hr from the time I was given the meds and anesthetics until the strip was removed and I was completely sutured. Incidentally, Dr. Shapiro will use both staples and suturing depending on the candidacy of the patient. He said I would be good for either and I chose suturing. My donor strip was 14 cm by about 1 cm and was estimated that size to yield about 1200 grafts. It turned out to yield 1584 grafts!! I was extremely pleased since I knew I was getting 384 grafts for free which represents a savings of about $1700. Dr. Shapiro remarked on how great my donor sight was and said I will never run out of donor hair no matter how I progress in the future. One of the assistant techs (I can't remember which one) also commented saying "That is going to be one strong hairline!" We were al gabbing so much and the time was passing so quickly that I forgot to ask about watching any movies or watching television. Lunch time came and went after which Dr. Shapiro finished up making the majority of the recipient sites. Dr.Paul Rose and Dr. Paul Shapiro (Ron's brother who is studying with Ron) both popped in every once in a while. We were all talking so much that at times they had to tell me to shut up because I was moving too much. LOL . It was only the last 1 hr or so that I found long since I never watched any movies or TV and at that point DR. Shapiro was doing the stick and place . Apparently the last hr or so is the fine tuning point and has a great effect on what the final look of a hairline will be. It was around 5:30 pm by the time I got out of the chair and after a few minutes of gabbing and getting my post-op instructions, we all said our good-byes and I walked back to the Hilton with my friend who had accompanied me on the trip. She incidentally spent the better part of the afternoon shopping at the Mall of America and spent a small fortune! That night we did not go out to eat and ordered room service and watched a couple of movies. I was not tired at all not did I feel any pain what so ever. There was very little bleeding for the 1st few hrs and after I changed the towel , there was none the following morning. The next morning I decided to wash my own hair instead of waiting to go back to SMG . At around 8:30 am we went back to SMG and Dr. Shapiro inspected his work. He took a macro photo of 1 cm2 to calculate density and figured conservatively at around 50 units by cm2. After about 30mins of inspecting and talking we said our good-byes and I reluctantly headed for the airport. Honestly, the whole procedure from beginning to end was so enjoyable and so easy, I would not have a second thought about doing it again if I should ever need it. ( I probably won't though.) I would recommend Shapiro Medical Group to anyone who is considering a procedure. I'll post some pics and I hope to put together a small website showing my new more youthful hairline as it comes in. Thais is going to be the hard part, trying to be patient and hoping the result meets my expectations. Incidentally , at day 2, I have absolutely NO numbness anywhere on my scalp at all! Has anyone else ever gotten away feeling no numbness after their procedure? [This message was edited by Bluesman on September 18, 2003 at 06:37 AM.]

Tomorrow is my surgury. This has been booked for 6 months and the date was changed twice to accommodate both myself and the doctor.(We're both rock stars!) I will post my experience on the weekend.

Tomorrow is my surgury. This has been booked for 6 months and the date was changed twice to accommodate both myself and the doctor.(We're both rock stars!) I will post my experience on the weekend.

I realize this. that is what I'm doing but a 1/4 pill every OTHER eday is something I never heard of.

A quarter every other day? I hadn't heard that before. What are the supposed advantages or disavantages to this?

D-day is 1 week away. PS: 1st time poster here. I 'm booked next tues. for hairline work (about 1,000 to 1,200 grafts) with Dr. Ron Shapiro. Can I hear from any other patients of Dr. Shapiro about your experience?

D-day is 1 week away. PS: 1st time poster here. I 'm booked next tues. for hairline work (about 1,000 to 1,200 grafts) with Dr. Ron Shapiro. Can I hear from any other patients of Dr. Shapiro about your experience?