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Yes but in my case, it's the transplanted hair. My diet and health are both exceptionally good. I am under great stress though but I work out 4x/week so I don't see how that could be a factor. Kramer

Tim, Thanks for the reply and thanks for the link. Hard to believe there are so many things that can cause hair loss. It'll take me a while to go through them all. I posted those two links because I have been noticing hair loss from the transplanted area (had 3 HT's)and I noticed a short while back that I didn't see as much hair loss during shampooing and combing my hair after I had stopped taking glucosimine and chondroitin for a few months. When I started taking them again, I started to again notice more hair loss. So I did a search for hair loss for those two supplements and I found those two links which I think (but I could be wrong) are credible medical sources. So I posted them in these forums for others to read and take note of. Anyway, I have since cut down my dosage to 375/300 from 1500/1200 of what I was taking since I found those two links. Thanks again, Kramer

Don't know if anybody is aware of this but here it is... http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chondroitin-sulfate/NS_patient-chondroitin http://www.stjohn.org/HealthInfoLib/swArticle.aspx?26,2270 I've been taking chondroitin and glucosamine for years. I wonder if this is the reason my transplanted hair is thinned? - Kramer

Don't know if anybody is aware of this but here it is... http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chondroitin-sulfate/NS_patient-chondroitin http://www.stjohn.org/HealthInfoLib/swArticle.aspx?26,2270 I've been taking chondroitin and glucosamine for years. I wonder if this is the reason my transplanted hair is thinned? - Kramer

Here is the link that mentions some possible negative effects of using tea tree oil shampoo. http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn11075-natu...ng-boys-breasts.html From the above link: Kramer

You know, I've noticed this (runner vs sprinter body types) but never thought much as too why. Now you got me thinking about going out and running a few sprints... :-) Seriously, since I've read that article, sometimes when I ride the bike at the gym, I'll go full speed (sprint like) on it for the last 45 seconds or so just to get a free blast of HGH. Kramer

Thanks hairbank, Actually, I just wanted to cut a propecia pill in half to 0.5mg/day. However, I wouldn't mind taking a full pill every other day. Either way, I am going to verify these options with a medical professional (I'm not calling you a liar or saying your wrong). I believe you but I just want to make sure before I make the change. Kramer

One other comment. I noticed that you (and many others here in these forums) use Nizoral and Nioxin. I've never used these until about 4 or so months ago when I started using Head and Shoulders 4x/week and Nizoral 2x/week with my wife's shampoo the rest of the time. However, about a week ago, I started using Nioxin and Nizoral (2x/week) and I have since noticed that there is less hair in my hands when shampooing my hair. This has to be my imagination, right? Kramer

Not really. What seemed to happen was that once it really started to come in, it slowly over time seemed to thin out. I'm sure that some of this was original (untransplanted) hair falling out. But I am positive that the original transplanted hair also fell out. Even my doc said he thought this and asked me all kinds of questions regarding taking different types medicines and supplements in order to see if it was something I was taking. About the only other explantion I can think of is stress. I have been under great stress for about 4 or so years. However, I go to the gym 4x/week and do 30 minutes of aerobic (bike) excersise followed by about 1 and a half hours of lifting weights (non-stop since the '80's). So I would think that this would nullify the effects of stress. Kramer

The following shows the result of exercising and HGH: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retri...137178&dopt=Abstract I'm not sure but I think it says that the harder the people sprinted, the more HGH their bodies produced. If this is correct (and I'm not sure it is as it's in doctor speak), I would recommend NOBODY start sprinting until you get a doctor's checkup AND are in shape. Kramer

I read in the following link ( http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/366...406090861#3406090861 ) that a doctor told his patient that you only need 0.1 milligrams of propecia and it will still work. Does anybody know if this is true? If it is, then I could cut the pills in half and save money. Thanks, Kramer

For what it's worth, I read in Men's Health (about 6 or so months ago) that Nizoral and Head & Shoulders had a slight effect on reducing hair loss (it didn't say why). So I use Nizoral 2x week and Head & Shoulders about 3x week. The rest of the time, I use whatever shampoo my wife uses (and I now may try Nioxin) One comment on tea leaf shampoos. I just heard recently on the news that it had some kind of negative affect on males (where it did something like increase a female homrone or something. I don't remember exactly.) Kramer

What happened was that the transplanted hairs fell out (the little 1/4 inch or so stubs that were left over from the transplant.) This happened about 2 to 4 weeks after the transplant. About 3 to 4 months later, the hair was coming in nicely but now it's getting thinner and seems to be falling out. Somebody told me that once the transplated hair starts growing, this new hair will shed and then come in permanently. I don't think this is the case. By the way, this is my 3rd HT and I noticed the same thing with the first 2 HT's (after a few months of nice new hair, it starts getting really thin and then falls out). I take propecia and use 2% minoxidal so I don't get flaking (but double the dosage of it so it's close to 5%). Several times a week, I also run warm to hot water on my head for a few minutes in the shower so that the pores open up (and to increase the blood flow to the scalp. I read that somebody else here does this). I then immediately apply the rogaine. My Doc said I may be taking too much Vitamin A. So I've cut back from 10,OO IU per day to about 2500 IU per day. I made this change about 1.5 to 2 years ago so it shouldn't be affecting me today. One other thing. I know this sounds crazy, but every day, I can run my fingers through my scalp and I feel a little bump here and there (in the transplanted area). When I grab one and look at them, I usually see a tiny or small sized hair coming out of it. It almost looks to me like the follicle shrunk, died, and then the skin expelled it. My doctor said it's imposssible for the follicle to come out (unless you pick it and get blood which of course, I would never do.) I gave him some to look at but, he never checked them. I did bring some of these to another HT doc (a well respected and well known HT doctor) and he said that they aren't follicles (but he also said he never seen this before). If I get another HT, I am going to use the well respected HT doc (not that my doc is bad, he's rep is ok and he's been around for a while). Kramer.

About the only medicine I've heard of that sounds like it may work someday is this: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=123198&p=ir...ID=505457&highlight= http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=123198&p=ir...ID=833989&highlight= Kramer

What I've noticed is that at first when the hair comes in, it's quite thick (like the other hair around the back or sides of my head). However, over time, it gets thinner (smaller in diameter) and then seems to fall out. I've decided that I'm not a good HT transplant subject. I don't understand as I am really healthy. I almost considering getting a laser comb to see if that will help keep that transplated hair growing normally. Kramer