P.J

Joe/Dr.s Thanks for the insight - it confirmed some of my thoughts If you smoothed out the angles to be more gradual - something like a sideways (S) shape stetched out. Would this help with the transections I still believe with this shape you could reduce the length of your scar by 25-30% and still achieve the same # of grafts PJ

Guys/DR.s, I was thinking about a way to reduce the length of the strip scar and still get as many grafts. While most of the time a wider strip is not logical because it would leave you with a wider scar What about removing a strip the looked like a sound wave - you should be able to shorten your scar and still achieve as many grafts with out going too wide. I believe you would have to grow your hair longer - because they would have to shave a wider area to prep for the cut Has any DR.s tried this method - I am trying to avoid a long smiley scar? PJ

Guys/DR.s, I was thinking about a way to reduce the length of the strip scar and still get as many grafts. While most of the time a wider strip is not logical because it would leave you with a wider scar What about removing a strip the looked like a sound wave - you should be able to shorten your scar and still achieve as many grafts with out going too wide. I believe you would have to grow your hair longer - because they would have to shave a wider area to prep for the cut Has any DR.s tried this method - I am trying to avoid a long smiley scar? PJ

bverotti, Thanks for chiming in - I understand what you are saying about perfecting with experience. Could you elaborate on your process? This is the process as I know it: 1. Scoring the skin and checking the angle the hair is actually growing under the skin - to make sure to cut the graft at the right angle 2. Punching the skin at the right angle and removing the graft with care You have stated that your clinic has done 1500 in 6hrs. You are saying scoring + punching + removing 6 grafts per minute without damage? Please inform us of your process so I/we can understand how this is humanly possible?

Well its been a while and none of these Drs bit! After doing some research and from my own experiences - I believe the average extraction rate would be 100grafts per/hr for fue performed by one Dr. With this said: 1000 fue would be around a 12-14hr day onaverage If you wanted 2000 grafts - it would take two Drs extracting for 10hrs and add another 4-6hrs for cuts/placement =14-16hr day Any comments or conflicts would be appreciated PJ

Well I guess it will remain secrete - I will call it a scam (as Dr Feller explained as a brute force tug fest) with poor results till one of these DRs has the balls to come forward and explain this special technique. PJ

Emu, After sitting in his chair twice in the last two months. I would say you cant go wrong with him. Both the DR and Laura are top notch people. You can tell he is meticulous about his work and it shows it. Good luck PJ

Dr Armani 3000+ Dr De Reys and Dr. Ilter 2000 Dr Koray 2000 Dr Jones 2000 These are all claiming mega Fue in a single session. I would like to hear how they do it and their survival rate! PJ

I am looking for Dr.s that do 1200 or higher Fue in a 1 day session 10-12hrs: I know Armani and Reys are said to acheive this amount - I would like an in depth explaination on how they can achieve this amount in that short of time with a high survival rate. When cutting folicles at different angles and pulling them out with extreme care I am having a problem with their survival rate at this speed. I am calling out any Dr or patient that has been through this to come forward and let us know - if it really works why are there secrets? Or any Drs(Feller,Hasson,Rahal,Cole) that have the same issues with this also please speak up. PJ

I am looking for Dr.s that do 1200 or higher Fue in a 1 day session 10-12hrs: I know Armani and Reys are said to acheive this amount - I would like an in depth explaination on how they can achieve this amount in that short of time with a high survival rate. When cutting folicles at different angles and pulling them out with extreme care I am having a problem with their survival rate at this speed. I am calling out any Dr or patient that has been through this to come forward and let us know - if it really works why are there secrets? Or any Drs(Feller,Hasson,Rahal,Cole) that have the same issues with this also please speak up. PJ

Emu, I had a FUE session with Dr. Rose last month and am going back tomorrow for another. I am very impressed with his work. So far nothing but positive things to say. PJ

All this math got me interested - so I took the measurements off my own head. Donor area = 32cm long X 4cm wide at the safe zone Density average = 100cm2 12,800 grafts in the safe zone FUE available to harvest with 60 grafts per cm left for coverage = 5120 grafts That would lead me to the same conclusion as everyone else = I would need a density of 200 grafts per cm2 to achieve 10,000 FUE grafts Now with the strip method - if I pulled half of my safe zone (32cm X 2cm) out I would have 6,400 grafts by strip to use. I have one idea about the strip method - correct me if this is wrong: When you cut out a section of skin and pull it closed you are pulling one side down and one side up - which lead me to believe you are lowering your safe zone by half of the strip on each procedure. So in my case that would lower my safe zone by 1cm X 32cm - which may have to be filled in the future. And at 60 graft per cm - I could possibly need 1960 more graft in the future to fill in the lowered hairline from the strip. Rough Conclusion: FUE = 5,120 harvestable grafts Strip = 6,400 harvestable grafts with possible 1920 needed in future PJ

Bald eagle, As for being able to shave your head while your hair grows out - using FUE in small sessions (500 to 700 at a time)you will be able to acheive this. I shaved my donor area and sides to zero guard after the 2nd day and was at work the 4th day. It will look like a rash on the back of your head - easy to explain. Let me say alot easier than a 30cm smiley face posted on the back of your head. Large strip sessions are the way to go if you can deal with the permanent smiley face and about six months of major hair issues. I'm no expert just opinion from my experience. good luck, PJ