so tired

JOTRONIC THIS IS WHY YOU GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS .SERIOUSLY THOUGH ,IT DOES MAKE SENSE AND IM STARTING TO LET MY GAURD DOWN AND BELIEVE. ONCE YOUVE BEEN RAPED BY A DOCTOR ITS HARD TO TRUST ANY.I MIGHT ASK QUESTIONS AND MAKE COMMENTS THAT ARE RIDICULOUS OR PISS PEOPLE OFF OR ACTUALLY HAVE MERIT BUT IF THAT WANT I FEEL I HAVE TO DO TOGET THE BEST RESULT THEN SO BE IT GO WHITE SOX

jake well i dont think we will ever know because whos gonna count hairs before and after. i just believe alot of what drs call permanent shockloss is actually transection but thats just my opinion .Im seriously considering Shapiro since i live in Illinois Are you happy with your results I have 3 friends waiting on me to find us the right doctor

gorpy I think what it all boils down to is pack the shit out of the scalp at least twice and that will make up for loss due to transection and hairs angled at different directions. I know jotronic says and believes doing all lateral slits even with existing hair is the only way to go as long as you shave the hair since then there will be zero transection, is a bit overboard .i mean hell, when your doing a 4000 graft session your telling me there wont even be accidental transection.Even our creator didnt get this hair thing right do think Dr wong can, as good as he is. My point to all this is which way is best,all lateral or a combination when it comes to transection.I mean if one way you accidedntly transect 200 previous grafts and the other 600 that a difference of 400 or $2000 dollars and worse yet permanent hair. I dont think anybody truly knows .I think its one of those there no complete way to avoid transection just be happy you have hair. i just wish i knew what were the percentages between the two because i dont like paying for things twice, like chopping down a tree just to replace it with another one. Ill tell you one thing once i find the right doctor and complete all this with satisfation boy do I have a story to tell including how hairloss landed me in prison. You think jotronic girl tech and shane do alot of ass kissing for their doctor you havent seen nothing yet

Pat your a dedicated man to this site and if no one has ever thanked you, well i do. its unbelievable the transformation ive made for the bad with a bogus transplant. Its hard to trust any Dr. the funny thing about all this is my situation isnt even half as bad as the majority of repair patients and i fell so damn hurt for them. well im through with this subject. Thanks again Pat. Also congratulations to Dr konior for making that change. From every other thing i saw, combined with this is just great to hear.

thanks pat I may sound a little bitter and thats because I am I lost my wife Ive been living under a hat I lost my social life and its all because i believed a stranger or a commercial Once again I want to say i saw alot of pitures at dr koniors office and they were all pretty damn good hes head and shoulders above any other dr here in illinois I Only responded to tys post and then it took off from there It just kind of pissed me off to read the Dr say how mush expierence he has with the tri-closure and just left it at that Most people would just assume that means he incorporates it in the donor closure Like i said before he told me he doesnt, thats all. I just got one last question for you did he use the tri-closure when you were on the roadtrip you dont have to answer because i already know Im not the smartest guy around but i am a straight shooter and thats all i ask from my doctor

PAT thanks for the explaination. In no way was I trying to bash Dr konior I know hes well respected and does good work i know he has extensive training with the closure since he does brow lifts and other surgeries but when I asked him personally if he did it he said no plain and simple he said it has merit but its mostly hype and maybe it is, but its something that cant hurt only improve or stay the same All i kept thinking then was then why wouldnt you do it. Did he perform the closure when you were on the roadtrip Shapiro does it Dr wolf does it even though he also thinks its overhyped h&w do it feller cole so on and so on. I was really just saying for over 5 dollars a graft at his practice i would want every advancement there was performed on me, even if its "overhyped" i had a DR tell me refined follicular units were overhyped. Some doctors out there are real comfortable in doing the same thing over and over and when it comes to change they put in on the backburner until there is a demand From what i read now everyday from potential clients is the same thing that i want from a doctor ,the ability to dense pack if needed ,lateral slits and the tri-closure Dr konior said he does lateral slits in the hair line What about behind it where im bald. I dont know about the rest of the fellas on here but $10,000 is alot of money to me I paid alot of money for bosley to butcher me i dont want to make that mistake again. Once again im not saying going to konior would be a mistake but what i an saying is that all you thousands of knowledgeable posters have schooled me and have shown me a light that has reenergized me and given me hope,and im going with a doctor that produces the best consistent results and so far those doctors are the ones performing ALL the the things i mentioned above Crazy as this seems these forums are one of the greatest thing to happen for me in a long long time If i piss some people off speaking my mind as long as its the truth i dont care, because ive been pissed off for a long time on top of looking silly .Its not enough anymore to only be one step above the incompetent hair quacks i will only give my hard earned money to the best doctor out there

dr konior i never said you did have expierence with the tri-closure since you are a plastic surgeon who does many other procedures besides hair restoration . You just told me you dont currently use in it closing the donor and thats your choice and as far as lateral slits i was aware you used them in the hairline but what ive learned from some of the top docs that one of the advantages of the lateral slit is the hair is fanned out to help create a fuller look and obviously that would take 3 and 4 hair grafts unlike the "hairline" grafts that are usually single hair, and that would defeat the purpose when it comes to the fanned out effect. Im sure you do good work but for the same amount of money and even less i personally want a doctor who does exclusively hair restoration ,all lateral slits and the triclosure. all these newer techniques made only make marginal differences but its my money my head and my decsion

do they use lateral slit there by the way good luck did you get a discount from the ron shapiro price

ty iwent to see konior hes a confident doctor has alot of post op pics but doesnt use the tri-close or lateral slits i live 20 min from him but im going elsewhere

GO BUY SOME LIQUID EVENING PRIMROSE OIL[GLA} AND RUB SOME IN YOUR HAIR ITS UNBELIEVEABLE

how was your scar after the first session and how does he close it

anyone have any comments on his work

anyone have any comments on his work

is the lateral slit superior for density