Yabala

All your answers mean that using finasteride for a Norwood 5 is still useful and enough?! 

Hello. I'm 38 and l'm Norwood 4 -5. I'd like to use a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor (orally) but l'm hesitating. Should l use Finasteride ? Or Should l start with Dutasteride directly ? 

4 hours ago, Gatsby said:

No the liquid form for sale is greasy to apply. When you heat the foam version it is far more viscous and easier to apply. 

Ok l get it now

11 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

Spot on. It’s an old trick. 👌

If the goal is turning the foam into a liquid better to get the liquid form directly right

6 hours ago, Gatsby said:

Lower the cap in hot water so the water doesn't get into the top of the cap. The heat will melt the foam into a liquid that is less greasy and easier to use than the liquid version itself.

Turning the foam into a liquid means that the liquid is easier to use if l did understand. Am l correct ?

51 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

If you buy the foam you can fill the cap and then place the cap in hot water. The heat will melt the foam into a liquid that is not be greasy like the spray or liquid version. 

I fill the cap with Minoxidil 5 % foam and then l put hot water on the cap in order to turn the foam into a liquid is that what you meant ?

Hello. Do you prefer Minoxidil 5 % in spray or in foam ? And why ? 

On 11/12/2023 at 5:26 AM, Melvin- Admin said:

I started once a week, then twice, three times, five times, and now I’m basically daily. But it depends on the topical. Xyon is the only one that recommends daily use. Most likely because of the siloxysystem gel that penetrates slowly. 

If the topical you’re using recommends 1x per week, use it as directed. 

Hello. What concentration of topical dutasteride do you use ?

3 hours ago, vsma said:

no he means before you try to conceive, stop finasteride. it has a short half life in your body so do some research and decide what the best time period of stopping is for you. once your partner is pregnant you can then think about starting it again, youll just have to be very careful to make sure they don't come into contact with the drug (physically with the pill or via your body someway)

thats just my opinion, the research on this is limited so just find out what you can and then decide

Yes l have to figure out what is best.. Some questions remain 😐

2 hours ago, Gatsby said:

Minoxidil. And (I'm not a doctor) I would see a dermatologist and opt for oral minoxidil starting at a low dose. I would cease the finasteride if you are planning on having a baby a good three months before hand. To date their is actually no known teratogen as a result of being on finasteride. But could you imagine how you would feel if your baby was born with a deformity or disability regardless? All the best.

When you wrote a good three months before hand you mean stopping finasteride for the first three months of pregnancy ?

Questions. 1- A man who wants to conceive doesn't have to stop finasteride right ? 2- And if he does it'll will only be for the first three months of pregnancy ? 3- If a man stops finasteride for all the pregnancy, what drug/alternative can he still use in order not to lose ground ?

Question for Melvin, What alternative would be good enough for the duration of the pregnancy ? When l say alternative l mean taking something during the time off finasteride. 

21 minutes ago, ITA said:

I think yes, La Serenoa Repens (saw palmetto) is basically a specific natural food supplement against male androgenic alopecia formulated with the best concentration of plant extracts that contrast the DHT, regarding the
Minoxidi, is a blood vasodilator and you could opt for the foam one to be applied to the scalp instead of the one to be taken orally.

But Saw palmetto in its own way is also a dht blocker, that means it wouldn't be good and safe to use it when a pregnant woman is around. 😐

On 4/14/2024 at 3:16 PM, ITA said:

minoxidil e finasteride hanno funzioni diverse, il primo non può essere preso in sostituzione dell'altro, At most, one could advise @Yabala to replace finasteride with Saw Palmetto, which has a much milder efficacy than finasteride.

You mean l could use minoxidil and Saw palmetto during the duration of the pregnancy ? And resume topical finasteride when the baby is born ?

On 4/14/2024 at 1:05 PM, Gatsby said:

You could use oral minoxidil if you're talking around a year off finasteride.

You mean l could use minoxidil during the duration of the pregnancy ? And resume topical finasteride when the baby is born ?

Hi! I'm a user of topical finasteride. My wife and myself are planning to have a baby and l know that l'll have to stop topical finasteride for all the duration of the pregnancy. I wanted to ask if l will lose ground during that time ? And l also wanted to know if there are alternatives l can take during the pregnancy ? Given that l'll resume topical finasteride once the baby is born. Thanks in advance. 

Thanks 

Hi. I have a question for Melvin. You wrote in a comment that you use topical dutasteride once a day 5-6 times a week right?! Why do you use it 5-6 times a week and not everyday of the week ?

12 hours ago, Melvin- Admin said:

It will absorb, but a lot less. There’s a guy here who checked his DHT. It was reduced by 40%. Another guy had his DHT change by 10%. Either way, it’s way less than the oral version. Oral dutasteride eliminates 90-95% of systemic DHT. 

I see. How about the percentage of scalp dht reduction of topical dutasteride ?

51 minutes ago, BackFromTheBrink said:

I didn't say that, I said it wasn't approved but can be used off label.

I would personally start with finasteride which is approved and has been used for hair loss for longer so is better studied and understood. 

All drugs have a risk profile, it's a personal decision as to whether to take that risk based on the benefit it'll bring.

Thanks for the answer 

12 minutes ago, 12345 said:

yes. dut, fin, etc, they all are absorbed into the blood vessels in the scalp

Thanks for the answer 

12 minutes ago, BackFromTheBrink said:

I don't agree. It's not a stronger version of finasteride, it's a different drug.

It's also not FDA approved for hairloss (because it's a different drug).

So dutasteride must not be used for hairloss ?

17 hours ago, HappyMan2021 said:

All these comments including the original post have been incorrect thus far

Dutasteride is simply a much stronger version of Finasteride

If you have zero sides on meds, there is no reason to not be on Dutasteride.

The thinking of "i am only a low norwood therefore I dont warrant dutasteride" is an illogical way of thinking

There is no mystery or secret weapon behind Dut. It is just a stronger version of Fin...

Yes but yet finasteride has more studies and we know it's safe long term. 

14 hours ago, 12345 said:

its a myth. it will still go systemic. the whole too heavy dalton theory is just a rumor. 

So topical dutasteride does penetrate the skin ?

49 minutes ago, BackFromTheBrink said:

The way I see them being used, finasteride is used initially and dutasteride to complement or replace when finasteride becomes less effective on it's own. The more sensitive you are to DHT, the more likely dutasteride would need to be used.

Thanks man