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Yes that's correct. Maybe in my 30s or 40s I will have some recession of my hairline like 99% of men no one in my both sides of my family crossed NW2 before 50. They just said its gonna be 1000 grafts max so ill probably go ahead with it.

Yeah their dad is clearly NW 6+ so I guess theyre making the best out of their genes

Actually, I'm suffering from traction alopecia, and I'm just looking to reinforce my current hairline. I've had a windows peak since I was a child and women in my family have it too, I think it doesn't have to do much with hair loss but with genetics. My family doesn't have a history of hair loss and I agree my hair loss from traaction alopecia isnt severe but since its not progressive I want to fix it and go on with my life.

When I saw the surgeon in person and asked if I will need 800 grafts as they quoted online by seeing my pictures, but they said ill need 700 only. I asked if I can get 1000 for higher density and they said that wont be possible due to limitations of Hair Transplants Now I called their assistant to book a slot for a HT and I was sold the doctor said Ill need 1100-1200 grafts?? I dont get it since the doctor in person said it will be 700 and I understand if she went upto 800 or even 900. But isnt 1200 a big leap from 700? Here's a picture of the initial quote they gave me to add density to my hairline (which is all I want, no lowering).

Now that I told them I wanna proceed the surgeon said its 1100-1200 grafts, i dont get it how will they fit so many in such a small area?

I already have native hair in my hairline and since my issue was traction alopecia, the remaining hair thickness allows a illusion of perfect density when styled right. However a slickback exposes the hair loss. I'm quoted 700 grafts for 12 x 1 cm hairline area between native hair which comes out to 58 FU/per cm. I'm not sure how that will work since its a very high density

By good density I mean, not having my scalp visible when my hair is slicked back. Since I'm only getting the first centimetre of my hairline being done, I believe only singles will be used. But thank you for such a detailed general and a personalized reply. Your assurance means a lot friend!

I was talking to a clinic and I gave them my calculation based on the area of surgery and the number of grafts. I was told that there's no way of calculating post-of density with any calculation and there's no way of knowing what my hair will look like post-op. I'm really confused because how am I supposed to tune my expectations and how am I supposed to know if my surgery went right?

Yeah same, I think I'll take my doc's advice too. But from what I've read about hair loss I've seen that even the claim that hair fall of after minoxidil is pretty disputed among doctors. Many doctors claim that this only happens in AGA because minox is what maintains your hair, and for example when it is prescribed to women for post partum hair loss or TE, they don't notice a shed after quitting minox. In my experience, I didn't experience a shed either. And the guys with AGA who noticed this shed on discontinuation of minoxidil don't shed their hair that wasn't falling off either. And most guys on r/minoxbeards also retain their beard from minoxidil since DHT isn't against them in that area. I think hair loss, just like other fields of medicine has no clear consensus

luckily for me tret 0.05% suits my skin and i can use it every night without irritation. i use a ton of my prescribed moisturizer from my derm. i do have genetic acne due to high androgens, so the only way for me to get rid of acne and not have to apply this everyday is by doing a course of accutane

There area surgeons who claim minoxidil eliminates shock loss. I did find a great research journal on this but I can't find it anymore. I remember that it clearly stated that patients on minoxidil post-op pretty much skipped the shock loss stage and the ugly duckling phase. And at 12 the 9 month mark had longer hair than their non minox counterparts. https://www.hairtransplantfue.org/blog/minoxidil-after-hair-transplant#:~:text=Minoxidil Eliminates Shock Loss&text=Shock loss refers to the,removes the shock loss period. https://www.dentalhairclinicturkey.com/blog/minoxidil-rogaine-before-and-after-hair-transplant/

Really want to move from topical tretinoin to Accutane to permanently get rid of my acne but I’ve read online that accutane must not be taken before skin re grafting or hair transplants. What’s the logic behind this and what’s a safe timeline?

Hey man, I was told by the clinic to not take minoxidil post op since I don’t have progressive baldness. But anyway when I tried minox for 3-4 months 2x a day, I didn’t notice a shed or gain of hair. When I quit cold turkey my hair didn’t fall out either

Damn this confuses me even more. I don't have MPB (have traction instead), and I have some baby hair and some strands of hair of slightly low caliber but I wouldn't call them miniaturised. Makes me scared about permanent shock loss. I can't locate it right now but I found a study which showed that post HT, topical minoxidil pretty much made 90% of patients skip the shock loss stage and almost skip the shedding of most transplanted hair as well. It also showed the new hair achieving way longer lengths than non minox patients. I'll link it if i find it again.

Hey I read this comment again, I wanted to ask what is your estimate? I measured the area and it is 12cm/square so wouldnt 800 grafts give a = 65 single grafts per cm square of density? (Second photo)

I'm trying to understand what induces shock loss, and what factors make it temporary or permanent. How does transection of native follicle affect it, and how does implantation between native follicles induce shock loss? Is shock loss simply Telogen Effluvium? What ways can be used to reduce shock loss? I've read about topical minoxidil, PRP and finesteride (for AGA cases) not only reducing shock loss but also helping in faster recovery and length. Those of you who have gotten their HTs, did you guys experience shock loss in recipient area? Was it permanent? Here's some studies that touch this topic - https://martinelangsam.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Cyclical-Medicine-Article-published-in-Forum-USA.pdf https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/html/10.1055/s-0041-1739247 https://www.ishrs-htforum.org/content/15/6/197

Zayn malik has a very small forehead and a low hairline

bro are you on looks***.org? you dmed me

Thank you! At first I was scared about the potential MPB diagnosis, then I remembered I documented my hair for 2 years already. Will show them to the surgeon for a follow up opintion!

Alright, I'm still texting the clinic my doubts about shock loss and the density i can expect post op to see if it's viable.

I was told by the clinic that there is no way to do a test for MPB. Would it be a good idea to get the transplant, and keep living my life but get yearly check ups to see signs of MPB and get on finesteride if it is diagnosed? My family doesn't have a history of hair loss and I'm 100% sure I had traction alopecia because I had the early signs of inflammation and stopped my hairloss completely by changing my hair tying habits. Edit: A year back I showed my scalp to a dermat and he ruled out MPB and said it's traction and he said it won't progress further. And he was right, I took pictures of my hair every now and then and in the 2 years I stopped tying my hair in a turban, my hair didn't deteriorate. The earliest picture was taken in July 2022

That is my age. I agree, I plan on taking finesteride in the future when I actually have MPB, but I don't see the point starting it before it starts. Why mess with my hormones with no benefit? And I really want good hair in my youth. No one in my family has baldness, probably regular recession after the age of 40. So the chances of aggressive hairloss at 25 seems unlikely.

I don't have anything against finesteride but I don't see a point taking it before I even need it. I know that years down the line it is possible that MPB starts, and in that case I'm okay with getting it. My dad was only NW2 till he was 45 but lost hair from covid. You are right, I'm affected by my hair loss psychologically which is why I want to fix it and not think about my hair anymore. It is kind of depressing to be worrying about my hair at the age I'm supposed to live life. My apologies if my posts are annoying

In my consultation, I went with a history of traction alopecia but no MPB. Doctor couldn't conclude MPB either, and have no family history of baldness either. But doctor didn't rule it out and suggests finesteride post-op to reduce chances of shock loss. I don't understand how fin would help strengthen my native hair in the affected area if MPB isn't conclusive, I don't feel comfortable taking fin if I don't even have MPB. Am I wrong? Because my hair hasn't changed a bit in the last 2 years of stopping the hairstyle that caused traction alopecia. I'm wondering if I could take oral minox post-op and quit it.

I have traction alopecia, which thinned my hairline significantly. I'm tired of styling it everyday to look good, my only concern is shock loss in the current hair