jdp710

PLEASE GROW PLEASE, That's a bit harsh when I've already told you my testimonial that it works! It works better than any DHT blocker internally and externally I have ever tried and way better than minoxidil, caffeine, supplements, etc.. Anyway, I'm off this forum now. It doesn't look like anyone has anymore questions for me. And I'm sure Dr. Feller in a couple months will go back to his old statements that nobody will debate him when he won't even debate me

Hello Ceasar08, Thank you for helping me to find the answers from Dr. Alexander and Dr. Rassman. I tried navigating both of their websites but I couldn't find the exact answer. So, I went ahead and posted the question to the both of them on Dr. Feller's other thread. I can always e-mail them if they eventually don't answer. BTW, does anyone know if hair transplant surgeons who use clinical laser devices are only using the machines on their customers for only a couple weeks? The reason why I ask is because I haven't followed the progression of hair transplant surgeons recommending LLLT. I hope they are not giving it to their customers for only a couple weeks. The reason why I say is because it takes months to see improvement. I've even seen some testimonials that they won't get improvement for 6 months but in my opinion that's directly related to how many laser diodes are in the machine and other factors. Also, if you're curious I have also heard another story of clinical laser devices not producing results. However, it was due to getting too many joules causing a bioinhibition. Also, I've heard of other DIY helmets not showing much results but from every one of them, it appears they were not doing the correct treatment times ... user error. Oh, as far as my pictures. Don't forget to look at my pictures on page 4. Those pictures are the ones from a week ago. The ones on this page were from 5 weeks ago. And don't look at my hair around my hands where I'm pulling my hair back... there is little regrowth. Look at the sides of my head. And to answer your question, yeah, there is a "whole bunch" of people building their own laser helmets. It's easy Most all of them don't care to take part in debating but a lot of them will give a testimonial. If anyone wants, just go to regrowth.com and ask a question. As for making an arrangement about making one and let someone else try it out I do 100% agree that that's a good idea to test the validity. The problem is I don't have that kind of money to lend to strangers even if they are a Dr. that I don't know. Not to mention I don't need 2 laser helmets I know another forum member has posted something like that in the past ... I think he has more money than me Besides a Dr., I feel a very knowledgeable, respected and unbiased forum moderator would also work. However with me I'm eventually going to retire from every hair loss forum. Actually, I wasn't even coming to this forum to give my testimonial. My goal in coming here was to finish debating Dr. Feller as it looked like he left the debate early. Anyway about me, I'll eventually pop on and post my progress pictures, but it's "very" tiring answering everybodies questions when I don't make a penny from it. I really am posting all this out of the goodness of my heart and eventually I'll leave these forums as I've already stopped my hair loss. However, I will be sure to post progress pictures on this forum in say 2 months or so. I'll even post them weather they don't show any further improvement or not. Oh, if you're curious I've recently completed a new, better laser helmet. Here's a picture of it. It has 215 laser diodes in a hard hat. The way I treat my hair is I use it for 18 minutes and then I have to flip it over to the back of my head for another 18 minutes. Doing this actually gives me the equivalent of 430 laser diodes with no overlap. If you're curious, I very much believe, the more diodes the better. With this helmet, you wouldn't believe how much blood is flowing through your hair follicles! It's definetely nothing to do with heat but actually feels nice. Some people have described the feeling as a "head pump" and that pretty much sums up the feeling. Anyway, as for my laser device, I've actually built 6 devices before starting with as little as 34 laser diodes and I've experimented with various parameters to find out what works best. H Here's a pic of what my current laser helmet looks like on the inside if you're curious. It's ugly, but IMO it is the best laser device that you can get and it even trumps clinical laser devices by a "long" shot, in my opinion. Ugg, I have to stop typing these long threads. hope this helps

Hello, This an open ended question to both Dr. Alexander and Dr. Rassman: From my understanding you both used a clinical laser device and were not happy with the results your patients received. If you can be so kind and answer the following questions as I'm very curious why these did not work as I'm collecting this information. 1. What machine was used? 2. Did the machine have the focusing lens removed or were they still in the laser diodes? 3. How long were the treatment times for? (e.g. were they used for 20 minutes, 3 times a week?) 4. How many weeks/months did your patients use the machines before they stopped treatment? I appreciate your time to answer my questions. Thank You.

Sheesh, I've told you countless times to look at the hair loss forums. I could bring up "dozens" of threads where we talk amongst ourselves You'll see me asking OMG question after question on how to build a laser device. Here's one of the first threads I talked to him! http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?cati...DBTABLE=&STARTPAGE=1 "April 11, 2008 11:24 PM Thanks OMG, I really appreciate the responses. I went ahead and ordered the ac dc adapter from that link. I can't wait to start building the comb/helmet and I also might use your idea of gutter guards from Home Depot." How about this one "Question to OMG or others about $4 aixiz lasers" http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-forums/viewthread.cfm?f=1&t=21974 Do you really think I'm wasting hours of my time asking questions to myself and later answering them. In fact, there are threads where I disagree with him! As for your response that OMG has a stake in laser diodes that you said at hairlosshelp look at this thread. You see clearly how nidhogge called up aixiz to see if a bulk discount exists! There are also other forum posts where other members have contacted other manufacturers for a discount too. http://www.regrowth.com/hairloss-forums/viewthread.cfm?f=1&t=20917#107202 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyway, I will admit, it's a nice tactic you are pulling by diverting attention away from another study that I just posted that contradicts your statements!!! "it can be demonstrated that lasers produce light speckles [coherent light] or pockets of intense light within tissues" This study contradicts Dr. Fellers argument that this can't take place."

I agree vincehair!!! That's why I don't recommend them!

Sorry to spam this thread again as I don't know how to edit my posts but here's another important part: "it can be demonstrated that lasers produce light speckles [coherent light] or pockets of intense light within tissues" This study contradicts Dr. Fellers argument that this can't take place.

Oops, sorry about that. I hope this works better

Hello electricb, I don't mean to be rude and respond for Bill but all this information is readily available through the internet by studies. For instance this study was found by just a quick 30 second google search. "Theoretical computations indicate that lasers, LED's, and polychromatic light do not scatter and diffuse in the same manner within biological issues. Whereas longitudinal coherence, and hence the potential for a greater depth of penetration is theoretically longer with lasers, less so with LEDs. and even lesser with polychromatic light," http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/pho.2006.2...et=1&journalCode=pho Again, just do a google search and you'll find studies on this topic. Hope this helps

Hi Bill, I 100% agree with you. Also, sorry for spamming the thread with multiple posts too But, yeah, the reason for the very long threads is because there is so much misinformation that has been posted on all sides that I felt it may be better to just tackle every issue at once. But like you mentioned ... I doubt very many people are reading the posts because of it. Either way, I'll be glad to answer any questions you guys have for me for the next couple of days.

I was re-reading part of this thread and I just wanted to debunk another myth about lasers. This was posted earlier, "All laser could do is warm up the underlying tissue. Now if heat would be the solution ... why are men in Africa also balding." Just so everyone is on the same page as there is confusion on all sides about this. The heating of the tissue is not from the laser emitting heat like a light bulb as some laser skeptics would say. The heating of the tissue is from increased circulation. "Q: Does LLLT cause a heating of the tissue? A: Due to increased circulation there is usually an increase of 0.5-1 centigrades locally. The biological effects have nothing to do with heat. GaAlAs lasers in the 300-500 mW range will cause a noticable heat sensation, particularly in hairy areas and on sensitive tissues such as lips.." http://www.laser.nu/lllt/Faq1.htm#Does%20LLLT%20cause

"READ ME" Oh, BTW, for those that haven't fully followed the posts that I've made to avoid any confusion ... THOSE TESTIMONIALS ABOVE ARE "NOT" TALKING ABOUT LASER BRUSH'S. THEY ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT CLINICAL LASER DEVICES, DIY CLINICAL LASER DEVICES OR A COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE ONE THAT REPLICATES CLINICAL LASER DEVICES. I'm not yelling, I just need to post that so people can see. Also, the thread at hairlosshelp ... those people are not debating the merits of laser brush's either! I believe I know who they are and their testimonials and the debate are ALL talking about devices that replicate clinical laser devices and "NOT" laser brush's. Several of them have openly stated how much they dislike laser hair brush's too. I just want to be clear so we are all on the same page. hope this helps

jdp710 <------- just dispelling myths "on all sides" on what LLLT does ... it's a hobby of mine. Anyway, if anyone has any questions feel free to ask. I'll only be on this board for a couple more days so don't cry foul when I'm suddenly gone. I'll just end with I'd recommend everyone to do some research about laser clinics and also visit one and talk to their customers too and see what they have to say. Just remember you don't have to pay their fees ... you can build a laser device yourself. All you need are a bunch of laser diodes a power supply and some electrical wiring. Here's what the common laser clinical device look like http://www.konftec.com/html/EN/Laser_Hood_comparison.htm And again, for those that haven't followed my thread, I'm also not thrilled with any of those. Don't get me wrong you'll get good results with it. But DIY ones have even more potential although they'll be ugly. I just wish someone would have told me about this years ago and that's why I wrote these threads.

I should also post this article as it's relevant in the discussion between laser hair brushes not giving enough joules for a good enough photobiostimulation to take effect whereas just adding more lasers will do the trick. I actually recommend 200. You can build a device say 50 diodes and move it 4 times on your head to save cost. The problem is you'll have to move the device around to treat different parts of your head for a total of 60-80 minutes! Either way a 50 diode laser device would cost roughly $180. You can build the 200 laser one for roughly $630 and you only need to treat for 20 minutes to save time. And again, it doesn't matter where you buy laser diodes. Heck take apart several dozen DVD players for their laser diodes, lol. Anyway, here's the article, The article is titled, "Are all the negative lllt studies really negative?" "In many of these studies, analysis uncovered one or more reasons for the negative findings reported, the most common being the use of extremely low doses" http://www.laser.nu/lllt/LLLT_critic_on_critics.htm

these pictures are of my head at 4 months. For 5 month photos just crop the pictures that I posted earlier of the side of my head just as these are. I should also say for those that say I don't have significant regrowth on the sides of my head on the first photo's that I posted I completely 100% disagree and I would say you haven't been combating hair loss to understand. Yes, you'll get regrowth that can be more from DHT inhibitors like propecia and minoxidil but tell me how long your results will last before you lose it again! For those that have been combating hair loss for a long time like myself, you know what I'm talking about. BEFORE AFTER OTHER SIDE OF MY HEAD BEFORE AFTER

youngsuccess, Don't look at the area where I'm pushing my hair back as their is not that much regrowth their, but instead look on the side of my head. These are pictures of 5 months of LLLT on one side of my head. Yes, the angle is different as I'm looking down but my batteries died before i could get better and it does "NOT" make a difference anyway. I will post photos at a better angle if it's really necessary. Left side of my head BEFORE AFTER