GeneralNorwood
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1 hour ago, track_rat said:
They did give me back some of my funds which amounted to approx 1/5th total surgery cost.
Wow, you had some "luck" or things just changed, because they didn't offer me anything, not even tiny touch-up.
Maybe because i didn't ask them? Anyway, for me it was about getting good HT result, so even when Eugenix last words to me were "You are not alone", then silence came and that's how we ended our cooperation
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6 hours ago, hair_forever said:
Too evident after only 3200 uf after the 10000 uf available I can't imagine how the donnor would appear with this extraction system.
It was 6700 FU, not 3200.
And yeah, i think Ferreira uses rather big punch size, so with sides cut shorter, scaring is more visible. However, if he grows hair longer, it should be unnoticable
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Do you have more photos after 18 months from the top?Do you plan to do second surgery?
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1 hour ago, jason231 said:
So is eugenix off the table now? whos left for high NW/high graft clincs?
You can go to Eugenix if you are on a budget, but this choice can lead to situation where HT's will consume part of your life.
Zarev is like top1, but it is hard to get HT with him, because of long waiting list. Then there is dr Sever Muresanu, very ethical doctor and very detailed.
Pittella is the cheapest option per graft from this trio, but still it is not budget option. and you have to fly to South America.
Laorwong, maybe he is best budget option, many people are recommending him on this forum,though i don't know many his cases. But definately he is worth researching.
Some recent case to follow, i am curious how final result will look like : Absolute Hair Clinic | Dr. Kongkiat Laorwong | FUE 4128 | 45M | NW6 | October 2023 - Page 3 - Hair Transplant Reviews - Hair Restoration Network - Community For and By Hair Loss Patients
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1 hour ago, Dennis3 said:
Congratulations on making it through the first day! It’s reassuring to hear that your experience aligns with the glowing reviews. Looking forward to your full review once you’re all settled. Rest up and enjoy the new hair growth journey!
Bot? 🙃
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I remember doing drama before the transplant, but everything turned out fine
A wise decision not to rush into the next procedure.
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2000 grafts won't do much in your case, so i don't like this plan.
If doctor Muresanu is coming to US in July, you should get second opinion from him. He'll tell you how it is
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For now this is propably good, because wound is fresh. Later on you can think about adding silicone gel with onion extract. But consult this with a doctor.
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7 minutes ago, DeltaV said:
It will be fire 🔥...Dr Reddy is the cheaper UK equivalent of Dr Munib who is currently killing the hairline.
Keep up posted and I am scheduled with Dr Reddy in July for my 2nd.
How many grafts?
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Did Feriduni adviise you to take silicone gel for scar reduction?
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Can we see photoshoot done by BHR before HT?
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1 hour ago, Al - Moderator said:
This has been an incredible transformation. Do you get people who haven't seen you in two years not even recognize you or can't believe it's you?
They're probably trying to pull off the wig, but to their surprise, it's real hair
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The shape of the hairline is the least of the problems at this point.
What is worrying is the weak growth for more than 5 months. Have you cut the transplanted hair on the front?
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Guys, look at this video from 2:25. Feriduni must have watched it and now he knows how to extract this unwanted hair in the corners to bring back naturalness 😉
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Wow, It is very rare on this forum that somebody posts so many detailed videos, thank you for them!
11 hours ago, mtb said:So this video answers Berba's question "how this looks with the hair brushed forward"
And it looks very good. On this stage you can get maybe little cut on the fringe and wear your hair combed forward like after 1st HT and now it is fuller.
But of course it's up to you, now you can change hair styles
On 4/27/2024 at 12:02 AM, mtb said:Sure man. I'll post one dry and one with product. Still navigating how to best use product and which product to use.
To be honest, this paste that you used in recent update pictures isn't best for the volume of hair, because it is glueing hair together.
When i had longer hair and tried combed back hairstyle, i tested different products and some were glueing hair and other not. For example sea salt spray which was recommended here by many users, it was very good for the volume. Spraying all around the scalp and then blowdrying was doing the job.
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First time in this thread, thanks to @Berba11, because he mentioned you in another topic. It took some time to read whole journey, but it was worth it.
When i thought about biggest Sethi's flops with beard hair transplant, it was the case of guy named Tony. Now i believe he dissapeared from the forum. Eugenix didn't care about him, so they are propably happy that he "diasapeared". But the forum remembers...
Looking at your case, Eugenix made 2 major f*ckups :
1. So called "bird nest". And that's what happens when you use beard as the main donor(Not as 10-20% addition) and they are doing it over and over for different patients. It was just a cash grab, with no long-term plan
2. Bad extraction from the beard caused visible thining. And i really get it, because i like to grow beard too. I can only imagine how annoying something like this would be for me.
We are doing HTs to improve our balding situation. So it is just terrible when after HT the situation becomes worse. And then you are dragged in long and exausting journey, you have to travel around the world to see different surgeons and not mentioning expenses that will tripple or quadruple. That mental and financial costs could be avoided if we had HT in the right place.
And your surgery was done not by some juniors from Eugenix, who are not recommended by hairrestorationnetwork. The surgery was done by "super duo", Dr. Sethi and Dr Arika Bansal, the owners of the Eugenix, who are recommended by this forum.
Eugenix gets huge cash flow because of this forum, that's a fact. However this forum is not protecting it's members in case of undeniably bad results. I think this forum should take responsibility for recommended surgeons and mediate in cases like this.
What Eugenix proposed to repair this situation was BS. They said that to fix "bird nest" you should just use some gel and cut it shorter. Ridiculous. And to fix thining in the beard they offered 100-300 grafts, but you should bear costs of travel. So generous...
After losing trust in clinic because of subpar result and such poor proposition of correcting things, no surprise that you started to look for surgeons with real solution.Here we are, after years of misery, it seems that "bird nest" fiasco is finally over and beard looks fuller.
So the next step is treating the top with scalp grafts. Can you show some photos of the top from various angles?
I wish you the best and i believe that with new "team" that you found, you will further improve your situation 👊
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One recommended surgeon is repairing after another recommended surgeon's failed HT. Very interesting.
Anyway, it seems that you are on a good route now, the plan makes sense. I'm looking forward to the end of this journey
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From my conversation with Dr. Zarev, it seems that prices will not decrease, quite the opposite.
He has no competition in what he does, only the appearance of more surgeons with this method would lower the prices.
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29 minutes ago, Berba11 said:
Damn, we should have grabbed a beer!
Yeah, i found out today, that you were in London too.
Great city for meetups, it has 4 big airports and shocking number of pubs. If there will be an idea for a forum meeting, I think London is a great place for it. Although it must be said that it is not cheap
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6 hours ago, Berba11 said:
Yes definitely different situations (mine a lot better than GN’s), but interesting parallels in terms number of grafts extracted via FUE, overall pattern of loss (mine not yet as advanced as GN’s), going too aggressive on the first pass and surgeons wanting to refine/modify the hairlines.
I think you have higher native density in donor area and that's why you are better candidate for FUT then me.
My native denisity in donor (untouched by 1st HT) is ~75 grafts/cm2. And my density in area where extractions were made, is between 45-60 grafts/cm2.
However my hair are thick, not fine.
Fun fact. The thickest hair that was found by Dr Zarev during consultation was implanted in... temple points.
PS. I was in London from Friday to Sunday 🤣Touring holiday.
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33 minutes ago, shiba1985 said:
No I have not but the amount of coverage I have seen konior provide with relatively lesser grafts I can extrapolate from that, that If the patient went back for seconds and thirds he would have relatively full coverage.
I doubt it. Konior needed 7000 grafts for this patient : ttps://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/71395-3x-konior-fut-fue-nw6-12-year-update/
And it was obviously lower stage then mtb.
I found another patient from Konior with 6700 grafts : https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/56905-raymond-j-konior-md-chicago-hair-institute-evolution-of-a-6710-graft-multi-stage-repair
It is far from full head of hair
33 minutes ago, shiba1985 said:even mtb doesn’t have full coverage it’s relatively full but you can tell behind the hairline in mid scalp there are gaps that are covered by hair sleeking back but that’s just the limitation of hair transplant.
He is doing slickback, because he had no-shaving FUE and hair from 1st HT are a lot longer then hair from 2nd HT.
Let me remind you how his midscalp looked before 2nd HT when hair were combed forward :
And we can expect that in next months midscalp will improve as well.
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18 minutes ago, shiba1985 said:
I dont think you can worry about that stuff. every doctor has his own technique. someone like konior can put 2000ish. grafts and make it look full and someone like zarev does it with 4000 and make it look full.
Yeah, but did you see Konior taking case like mtb and using just 6000 grafts to achieve result like this? 😉
Zarev is using smaller punches on average, but it's not like he is using 0,5-0,6 mm all the time. It depends on characteristics of the hair. You can see here that he extracted 3270 grafts with only 0,7-0,75 pmm punches : https://youtu.be/XASvPhbsRO4?t=378
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1 hour ago, mister_25 said:
What characteristics does Dr Zarev and Bisanga say that makes your beard hair different than your scalp hair?
Does this mean you are not a candidate for using beard grafts?
We didn't go into that too much. I remember that Bisanga said that my beard has different texture.
And i can add that beard has different color too.
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Well sorry mate, but this plan is kinda mad. Eugenix, hit me baby one more time? Sure, they will do it, because dr Sethi likes money and he likes helicopters and flying with a choppa is expensive
And now more serious...
The buzz cut option + SMP works, it looks ok. Don't bother with opinion of your "friends". They know nothing. What feedback? They preffered your previous balding men version? I don't think so.
Let's speak about 2 options :
1. This plan with wasting another 1000+ grafts for the hairline lowering, and BTW, front is your current most dense area. Maybe focus should be put on less dense areas, isn't it more logical?
So no, i don't like this option, because you will have strong frontal third and very weak midscalp and crown.
You can mix it with SMP and wear this SMP hairstyle with new lower hairline, but you will be basically limited to 1 hairstyle for life. Do you want to be limited to this buzzcut hairstyle for life and cut your hair very often?
2. Reinforcing the hairline rather then lowering it and focusing on midscalp + crown. It's for sure best option, if you are looking for longterm plan and don't want to limit yourself to this 1 buzzcut hairstyle and be able to grow hair longer.
Just look at this pictures, it was 7 months update :
So how can you lower your hairline when frontal hair looked sparse? Just add more hair BEHIND the hairline and everything will look fuller and hair will cover the forehead.
And that's from 13 months update :
You see this lack of density in the red circle? That should be treated. Do you want to lower hairline and leave this red area with low density? Doesn't make any sense. Reinforce red area and then the fringe will become fuller.
Doctors like Zarev or Muresanu would kick out this this "hairline lowering" idea from your head. Eugenix... i think they can realize the craziest ideas of patients.