Overthinker

Thanks for your reply! I didn’t get checked by microscope from the doctor who did the surgery, but that was 2 years ago with Lorenzo and he saw miniaturised hair and he told he would enhance the area if he did the surgery. Yet my procedure was only the hairline. Also I thought the community is built for sharing thoughts and concerns about hairloss. i don’t agree completely with this. You lose your hair in patterns, that’s why norwood scale exist in the first place and how every surgeon plans on working on your head for you to have hair into the future as long as possible. That’s also how elite surgeons from here work with donors “out of the safe zone”.

Maybe I am not much in this life, but at least I’m honest with myself 😂

Amen to that brother! May all of us get what we are after! Thanks for the courage!

Thanks guys for all the information and the help! Really appreciate it!

I get your points and I totally agree. Thanks for your reply. I know beforehand that ht is all about the illusion and I got on heavy medicines all in once trying to achieve the best I can and then retain it for as long. I wouldn’t do so also if my donor wasn’t measured giving a total of 10.500-11.000 grafts without visible thinning. Even with the miniaturised I couldn’t see scalp, I just got worried about the pattern and the usage of my grafts and if I did was correct.

Yes I did, 3 years ago and my situation was this. Lorenzo told me the density is the same but they’re all miniaturised in my forelock. Freitas told me my density also is great no thinning. So I probably am going crazy into this phase.

It’s really good to hear those words cause honestly I felt that I did a mistake. Hes a great doctor and a great clinic that’s why I’m going for the touch up there, you won’t have any complaints from them, I’m sure about that. hope everything goes great for you and you get what you really wish🙏🏼

Thanks for your reply man. Yes and I really trust their opinions, as I’ve seen doctor De Freitas have told some of them if they have some diffuse thinning or anything like this when the head is shaved, so I believe that he also would tell me so if there was anything. I was just scrolling through the photos and my perfectionism got me worried looking from follicle to follicle. But he didn’t access my scalp with the microscope so I guess the miniaturisation couldn’t be seen with the eye

That’s why I’m asking for your help, if it’s just the anxiety that I see a bigger norwood pattern now in the ugly duckling phase. And feels like my donor grow stronger and faster than the rest

Thanks brother, appreciate it. I’m just freaking out cause I couldn’t style it anymore with them being miniaturised that’s why I don’t know why he didn’t put any in between .I can tell the difference in the texture of the hair between my donor and my frontal region and middle. It feels like they are thicker on the donor. Is this a thing ?

Thanks for the reply! I know but I’ve seen many cases by him where he implanted even a few grafts just to thicken it up. take a look at this thread where his forelock was stronger than mine:

All this area was itchy for days after the procedure and I know my forelock had miniaturised hair from two years ago when I had my consultation with dr Lorenzo in person. Dr de Freitas told me it can be a combination of the light and the haircut. But the density when he shaved me was good. I really don’t know

Yes, the work is absolutely incredible I don’t doubt that, he did a great job!

i am worried I have a higher norwood pattern even though every doctor that saw me told me I was norwood 2 and I don’t get why they didn’t put any grafts in my forelock and midscalp. im stressing because of the pictures , and mostly the texture between the hair on top and the donor ones. Could it be the haircut from the clinic? Or the use of topical minoxidil for 2 years ? Is it naturally thicker in donor area ?

I am one month post a hair transplant with dr De Freitas. 3 years ago when I noticed my hairloss the one thing that bugged me the most was the miniaturised hair I have in the front and I couldn’t style my hair like I did. I had consultations with Lorenzo and Bhr in Greece and some other clinics all told me my crown was good but I have miniaturised hair in my forelock. Everybody, including dr De Freitas the day of the procedure told me that I was a norwood 2. I asked him 4 times during my procedure if there’s thinning or miniaturisation somewhere else in the scalp and he told me there’s not and for now I am good and I don’t have to stress. Before I chose him I saw some procedures that he implanted between native hair on the forelock even when people didn’t have a problem there, you can see it in all the different cases recently here. But I was surprised he didn’t put microscope and a single graft in mine he just did my hairline. Don’t get me wrong he did an excellent job on my hairline, and I asked him about a touch up and he told me I might need 800 or less to increase the density. but it’s getting on my mind though that I have a bigger norwood pattern , even though Lorenzo examined my scalp with a microscope and he told me too that I was a norwood 2 and possible norwood 3 in the years to come. so what’s going on here and why didn’t he put grafts in between ? I asked the clinic several times and they tell me doctor says it’s good and I have to wait until 3 months because they grow thicker after. I’m on heavy medication for 2.5 years , everyday fun and fits , minoxidil topical that switched in oral after the ht and vitamins. I got relieved when he told me that I was a norwood 2 because I have a great donor and I could get the result I’m dreaming of. But now Im depressed and I can’t have peace of mind cause I dont know what’s happening on my head and what to expect. Im attaching photos 3 years ago to see what I’m talking about and after my operation and today. what should I do ?

Thanks a lot for the replied and the support guys! Indeed I thought I would have peace of mind after the procedure and just wait, boy I was wrong.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I actually did the consultation 2 years before with dr Lorenzo and he quoted me less grafts back then even if he would have added in the forelock as he said. I had my procedure with Dr De Freitas. And I have to say the best for them and the work done on my hairline. That’s why I’m confused. He didn’t touch my forelock. I have very good communication with the clinic and I asked them more than 5 times and sent them multiple photos also after and they are telling me that everything is normal after the doctor have checked them and I trust them. They also told me that in a second surgery ( I expressed my interest for a second pass for adding density in the same area and he agreed) they’ll check if there’s miniaturisation and they’ll address it. But for now there’s no thinning evident as they have told me. So I guess that it’s maybe the angle of the photos, the bad haircut for the shaved head ( people around me telling me so when they see me close) or just a slight miniaturisation.

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Hello, I’m 14 days post up my 2-day procedure and my mind is going crazy. Almost 2 years ago Dr Lorenzo saw my head with a microscope and told me that except my temples that were missing, the density in my forelock was the same but they were miniaturised and I could also see the hair were weaker than the rest without showing any scalp. When I went for my procedure , the other doctor checked me and my hair were long and he didn’t say anything and drew the hairline and entrances. Then they shaved my head and he spent some time with me deciding the hairline. Before he started with the incisions I asked him several times if there’s thinning or miniaturisation somewhere else and he said multiple times it doesn’t seem to have thinning somewhere else , don’t worry about it now and don’t get stressed because it can affect the outcome. Now I’m on 14 days post up and as the hair grows I can see that there’s no issue in density but I can feel and see the difference under certain circumstances between my middle and forelock and the sides in thickness and color ( like a little lighter) . I asked the clinic I sent pictures and the told me that thing are looking normal no need to worry about it, it is the length and the light of the photos that they make it that way. In every case I’ve seen from him there’s always some grafts put in the middle. Not in my case though. It’s an elite surgeon on here and I’m taking oral fin and dutasteride for over a year and topical minoxidil. Could it be because of the haircut of the clinic ? can someone please send me a pm so I can share photos and ask for your opinion ?

Hello guys, hope you’re all doing great! Have a great new year! So I have some questions of different subjects which I want to ask for my specific case cause I haven’t seen it already posted, at least some of them. I’m having my procedure on April 27-28th. We in Greece usually go for seasonal working during summer and the period varies between May and September. For those who don’t know already Greece is full of sun especially during summer and hot temperatures especially on islands. my questions : 1) how many days before should I quit smoking and liquid minoxidil? 2) how many days after can I use hair fibers without risking the result? 3) how many days after would you advise me to wear a hat and avoid the sun ? 4) and the last one , what would you do in my position ? Would you go for work there or would you relax the whole summer and begin to work in September somewhere else ? I’ve already asked the clinic the same questions and waiting for an answer , I just wanted also someone else’s opinion so I can proceed with the right one for me.

I know , I already have it before even my first , but I wanted to have a more clear vision about the budget when adding density into areas pre transplanted !

Thank you all for your responses! I just wanted to make it clear with you who have done it before , because I see all the time people claiming they are not “happy” with the density and want to add more but I wasn’t sure how surgeons react to this. That helps a lot 🙏🏼

Hi guys, I have a question that hasn’t been answered yet or I missed it somewhere for those who had two or more procedures with different surgeons. Let’s say someone does the procedure at his frontal third and it’s all good but he wants more and then goes to a different surgeon to add density. Is this considered a repair job by the different surgeon , so you pay it that way , or like the normal HT prices by his clinic ? I’ve seen that some surgeons charge different and many more for repair jobs , that’s why I’m asking . thanks in advance !

Questions : Let’s say someone has 7.000 grafts to use total and his hairloss is minor so he uses 2.500 of them : 1. Can you transplant BHT grafts in the area where the 2.500 grafts taken of ? Is it risky for permanent sock loss in the donor area ? 2. Can the surgeon seperate the BHT and the native hair in donor area if he does a second hair transplant , so he chooses only the native ? 3. Can that all happen or you have to use all of the possible donor grafts first and then rebuild some with BHT grafts ?

That’s an interesting topic . I was thinking the same thing today , and also that thing about family history said. How is this a measure ? i mean if you think of it in a closer look , you are comparing to your grandfathers , your dad , your uncles etc. and let’s say one became a norwood 6 and the uncle 4-5. But I did my research and every male above them , they all reached norwood 3 or tops 4 or some of them had no hairloss until they passed. So where they inhibited their advanced pattern from ??? If you step also a little further , let’s go to the first man who developed a hair loss pattern. Doesn’t this mean that every male after him either had no hairloss or had the same pattern as him ? So there should be only one pattern. So in conclusion, I think it’s a little irrelevant as for the pattern. I think that either you have inhibited the condition or not , and you develop your unique pattern , as every individual is different.