BurnieBurns

I can understand one could be quick to judge when looking at immediate post op pictures and think it's 'lazy work' or 'not natural'.

The bottom line is in the hands of surgeons like Couto and Hasson & Wong, based on their experience they believe is for the greater good of the outcome. 

Anyone is welcome to disagree with a doctor and has their own choice in the end.

E.g. one patient won't care about it looking like that temporarily if it will give a greater certainty of a good yield. Another may object with it out of principle or want the option for a buzzcut fearing it will be noticed. Their reasons are ultimately their own.

It's important to remember that a HT comes under the 'practice' of medicine. You can have two surgeons (even renowned ones) that have very differing approaches.

This can be based on a combination of their own skill, how they were trained, what they've noticed or experimented with, as well as their own personal values.

A good amount of early growth there, definitely more thickening to come! 

I’ve had an FUT mega session and recovery was fine. In skilled hands it’s very unlikely to have issues. There will be some residual pain which meds will treat fine. Potentially some swelling but that’s only a couple of days.

The redness can depend largely on your skin tone, whether you’re pale or darker complexion. 

it would also be good to share any concerns with the Dr as well as I’m sure he’s very used to reassuring patients around FUT

Even the most renowned of surgeons have cases that don't grow as expected and I'm sorry you're one of them.

Any ethical doctor will not tell you that anything in surgery in guaranteed, though it must hurt even more having paid that amount of money and chosen someone with a good track record of success.

I agree that there's no point in getting a biopsy unless a doctor can suggest any suspected conditions. 

It maybe worth consulting with a few other physicians to discuss options before deciding whether to take the FUT or the refund from Dr Wong. Having multiple credible opinions wouldn't hurt.

Not to be all 'look on the bright side' but your hair loss pattern is still minor compared to many, the native hair is holding on strong with medication so it won't take that many more grafts to look good (Provided they grow of course).

Yes, for sure including myself. Some doctors are a lot more comfortable / proficient with doing it than others. 

Given the dangers of interfering with androgen receptors outside the scalp, how can they prove that their formula does not go systemic if not doing proper trials?

Cheers

You are most definitely a NW6 , NOT a NW4. 3k fue grafts will simply not give you the density you'll probably be satisfied with. 

With your advanced pattern, my view is:  Do you care about having a linear scar? If not, FUT is a no brainer.

Going FUE only is possible but you'd no doubt have to resort to beard grafts unless all you desire is a 'thinning' look. You'd also in this case want to consult with FUE clinics that specialise in high-norwoods.

Based on those options I'd hold out for Dr Wong (I had a 5.8k FUT with him last year and have nothing but praise). He also often does FUE cases putting grafts into linear scars disguising it further.

Hattingen would also be worth consulting with. I've heard them say they take a lot of inspiration from Dr Wong's approach.

As a NZer, a agree with the above. Don’t go to ANYONE in Australia. Never let location to a limitation on getting a HT.

start with the list of recommended surgeons on this site, make a shortlist of who best suited to your case, consult with all of them, then make a decision.

It's common for implanted hair to grow in 'kinky' the first time after a HT, then it 'matures'.

You're still a long way off the final result so far and I'd say it's on excellent track too.

A second surgery is always an obtain to increase density after 12 months if still not satisfied.

Are you trolling?

Healing great and growth this early is always lucky. Looking forward to following

My understanding is these reasons.

- Minimises skin trauma, protects native hair without compromising density

- Optimising graft survival and mitigates shock loss

- Provides good spacing for adding more density in future if required

After my surgery with Dr Wong, there was a row appearance on the implants. After a couple of months, it's never looked row-like since and the density is fantastic.

I had my with Dr Wong and he used a vibration device while putting in anaesthetic. It mentally tricks the brain into focusing on that sensation rather the the pain so less of it's registered. I'm not sure it Dr Hasson does the same but with that is was very tolerable for me

18 minutes ago, Aspect said:

HahahahHAHAH I seriously just can’t lol. I’ve posted saying I think it was retrograde about 10 times now on different forum all to just be considered crazy or accused of having BDD. Thanks for the input

*facepalm.. There's no end of clueless morons online. Probably worth consulting with on of the doctors listed here for diagnosis and treatment even if you're not ready/wanting surgery

Remarkable coverage! Adding some length will help the hair become more 'layered' and using a volumizing product like sea salt spray will help lift it for more body.

Seems to be run of the mill retrograde alopecia but you'd need a specialist to be sure it doesn't extent to the donor zone, it which case it could be DUPA

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

This is a great thread - thank you all for contributing! 3 questions:

 

1. Has anyone ever done before / after blood work to check if topical DUT impacts DHT?

2. Is it possible to get XYON DUT at a lower concentration?

3. Are there any places in the US that will administer dutasteride mesotherapy?

 

I've been using Trichosol topical DUT but am considering trying XYON. The massive concentration difference kind of scares me off though. Had a very bad reaction to liposomal finasteride at a high dosage (1%) from Farmacia Paratti, and am not eager to repeat that with an even more potent drug.

 

I'm very interested in DUT mesotherapy, but seems its really only offered in Europe for some reason.

 

 

You can try doing topical dut intermittently, e.g once per week

6 hours ago, FinallyHT said:

Perhaps its because it takes 9 months to work? Thoughts? I can't imagine HW would push a product that doesn't work. 

I'm not promoting the product, as I've dropped over $1K on three bottles of top dut with no results yet.  Today marks exactly full 6 months of use. I will use the product until this last bottle lasts. After that if no results, I will drop it. 

Have you lost hair in that time? If not then that there is a result 

I'd heard plenty of success stories with topical dut including my own.  

Many failed attempts I've notice are using formulas they've made themselves and lord knows if what they're using is real Dutasteride let alone a proper carrier system

You need to go on a 5aR inhibitor first or at least try it

For the love of all that is good you need to get on medication for a year before even thinking about a transplant... 

Yes, absolutely no one in Australia. They would need a solid track record of natural female hairlines with with understanding of the differences.
Thailand would be the closest option geographically but that shouldn’t be anything to be limited by.

Most FUE surgeons expect shaving, non shaving is possible but they would need to specialise in it

No need to shave for FUT

So happy for you

11 hours ago, arthurSam said:

Ah ok, well I am not a specialist but it seems there still have the silicon (PEG8) and I think Phytic Acid is for the liposomes. To be confirmed by specialists...

 

If you read the patent, there are lot of ingredient which can be used for liposomes :

 

Yeah, it's not the liposomes that prevent the absorption but the silicone. I recall Dr Hasson saying in a livestream (unless I'm mistaken) that a pure liposomal carrier went even more systemic than a standard one. Who's to say in this formula the silicone works the same way. If has been changed due to being patented I hope Xyon is able to branch outside north America soon, however with still no indication I'm not hopeful. Even then it will probably just be very select countries.

22 minutes ago, arthurSam said:

It's the same I already make a comment on this comparing the two formulations.

Mine is completely different..