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BRO man...before I get banned contact that idiot John36 on his email he posted on his thread....he will then contact me. Bro I want to do something for you man.Don't refuse me please.Send me an address of a Hotel and a Hotel room number in your town and TIME. I will find good hearted girl ...gorgeous looking girl tell her what you want any theory man....but I guarantee you she will want to F**** your brains out. You need some Bro.If this is not acceptable to you that is fine. take care man

Think about this and answer....I am not driving again today...bad weather....

One of the worrisome aspects of relativity and quantum mechanics is that we must abandon our graphic notions of Newtonian mechanics, and also some of the notions of classical electromagnetic theory of Maxwell. There is a problem with your analogy...has to be abandoned...do you see it?? In addition, there is the "fact" that the photon has angular momentum -- but from the classical picture, "something" has to be spinning. What's spinning? (not my head PGP...I aint taking musrooms man) And an electron orbiting a proton in the hydrogen atom should spiral into the proton emitting electromagnetic radiation, but it doesn't. Why not?

lasers have a small amount of recoil due to the momentum of the photons leaving it. But if a photon has momentum, doesn't it also have to have mass? If so, then since it is traveling at light speed, wouldn't it's mass would have to be multiplied by infinity? But this couldnt happen, because the universe would collapse every time a photon was generated.

whooh.....I had to drive cross town to get a computer....Bill banned all IP addresses in all town here...because of some MANIAC JOHN36 !!! Which I am NOT related to in any fashion,except that I think he is cute and I wanna F*** him Ok,nice and shor like Bill wants me to be: GrayHunk photon does not have mass

GrayHunk I will give you a clue IF ultraviolet light hits a surface causes electrons to be emitted from the surface. Einstein's explanation for this was that light was made up of a stream of energy packets called photons. Modern physicists believe that light can behave as both a particle and a wave, but they also recognize that either view is a simple explanation for something more complex The wavelengths of the light we can see range from 400 to 700 billionths of a meter. But the full range of wavelengths included in the definition of electromagnetic radiation extends from one billionth of a meter, so the light that we see is one small part of the spectrum. There are many different ways to produce photons, but all of them use the same mechanism inside an atom to do it. This mechanism involves the energizing of electrons (not the Nucleus it self Dr.Lindsey)orbiting each atom's nucleus. How Nuclear Radiation Works describes protons, neutrons and electrons in some detail. For example, hydrogen atoms have one electron orbiting the nucleus. Helium atoms have two electrons orbiting the nucleus. Aluminum atoms have 13 electrons orbiting the nucleus. Each atom has a preferred number of electrons orbiting its nucleus. Electrons circle the nucleus in fixed orbits -- a simplified way to think about it is to imagine how satellites orbit the Earth. There's a huge amount of theory around electron orbitals, but to understand light there is just one key fact to understand: An electron has a natural orbit that it occupies, but if you energize an atom you can move its electrons to higher orbitals. A photon of light is produced whenever an electron in a higher-than-normal orbit falls back to its normal orbit. During the fall from high-energy to normal-energy, the electron emits a photon -- a packet of energy -- with very specific characteristics. The photon has a frequency, or color, that exactly matches the distance the electron falls... Think of this Then think what you said with your analogy with soldiers and bridge....I will write you tomorrow

GrayHunk I don't like you any more You don't know how to treat a girl. Your analogy with soldiers does not suit you and your sharp brain.I can tell you why your analogy is wrong and CAN NOT BE TRUE (like you said to Feller...INTERESTED TO HEAR?) P.S worst thing you can do to a girl is to put her down...

Now what I believe I BELIEVE that that LLLT laser (Maybe yes)does not penetrate the god damn bacteria sunbathing on our skin left alone the dermus.But that is what I believe,not what video proves.

1. DSH's post maybe the best of the last 5 pages on this thread. 2. Vallencia, I don't quite get where you stand on all of this. Are you pro-LLLT or anti-LLLT? 3. Vallencia, your take on energy not being lost is ok. Are you saying it, in this application, is being tranformed into anything other than heat? a: if not, why doesn't applying a warm washcloth regrow hair? b: if so, what mechanism of action are you proposing is going on? 1. Stimulation of chromophores? 2. energy transfer to the cells' nuclei? I am not trying to be a smart-a--, I just want to know your thoughts. Dr. Lindsey McLean VA William H. Lindsey, MD, FACS McLean, VA Thank you Dr.Lindsey You are gentleman, you acknowledged my existence here in a way OTHER than being fift wheel??¦like some other boys do??¦even this GrayHunk person lately 1.I had better than DSH's post but I did not dare put it here so I put it here: http://hair-restoration-info.c...?r=16710294#16710294 2.I am anti-LLLT, anti HT anti Communist, anti chauvinist??¦not anty Christ yet I hope Bill will let me know when I come close to that. 3. No,I am not saying that. Part gets reflected, part gets absorbed, part MAYBE (I don't know and never thought about it) gets refracted though the object (my guess is that depends on the power output of the laser and resistance of target/object. In that process laser energy colliding with mater produces heat, radiation and destruction (evaporation of the target??¦which is where the HEAT energy comes from).I don't believe it gives life to any hair. But that is a BELIEF.) 3.a) N/A ??¦.I never said laser does so it is N/A b) N/A b)1.N/A b)2 No, cell's nuclei's energy can not be less and not be more,because of any laser. (a propo question for you can nucleus energy be EVER more or less or is it constant....common doc biology ) Does energy cell's ( I assume you refer to human cell) as an entity it self absorbs energy, and if yes how. I don't know. Never thought about it. That is biology you maybe know? Once more thanks for being a gentleman..

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Lindsey wrote I can tell you what happens when you expose human tissue to laser light of sufficient strength. It heats the skin by the light be absorbed by various pigments (blood, tattoo marks) or water. This is quite effective at VAPORIZING epidermis and dermis and leaving scar tissue; or a raw surface that can heal by the migration of surrounding skin onto the wound surface. 'to laser light of sufficient strength' Sir we are NOT talking about laser light with strength (power output) higher than that of LLLT.What you say is true but Irrelevant to the LLLT and this dispute. I know that there is lasers with power output to cut STEEL Lindsey wrote Now one might argue that lower power laser light may actually heat the target rather than vaporize it. That would make sense, but extrapolated to LLLT, that would suggest that the mechanism for its "effectiveness" is heating the scalp. It would not be the "magic" of the laser whose energy is lost on contact with the scalp...not down several millimeters. I argue not only that as you say 'that lower power laser light may actually heat the target rather than vaporize it'. I argue that ANY laser, regardless of its power output penetrates mater in ANY aggregate form. Mater as a solid, liquid or gas as I explained into my long post, which WAS on the topic and which was not short. Laser does NOT convert COMPLETELY AND INSTANTLY into radiation and heat. THAT CLAIM SIR IS INVENTED AND FALSE PREMISE IN THE EXPERIMENT. ALL laser beam is not visible to human eye. Therefore the argument 'look we don't see the laser any more therefore it is gone is FALSE. And Dr.Lindsey I say to you ,as I said to Feller, ENERGY is never LOST by the laws of PHYSICS. Energy transforms ,just like mater transforms. Disclaimer I am not an LLLT proponent ,nor scientists. In fact because I am a girl and blonde, I am not taken seriously by this community .I am not John36. But I want to meet him ,he is hot.

GreyHunk Don't steal my arguments I was first stating that solids,liquids and gas are consisted of SAME molecules.What makes difference is the relationship between those (on molecular level) and density. And I said if laser travels through gas (atmosphere retaining as Feller claims 100% "laser quality"-which is power output and coherency)how come "instantly" disperses when hits same molecules in different agregate form (my example with water ice and clouds. Here it is any one can see going through the posts: What is a surface sir? What do you mean when you say surface? Is for an example ice a surface? Water has the ability to exist as liquid, gas or solid. The transformation from liquid to gas is called evaporation; the reverse process, from gas to liquid, is called condensation; from liquid to solid is known as solidification (freezing); and from solid to liquid, fusion (melting). Water can also be transformed directly from solid to gas, or the reverse, through a process called sublimation. ( see these various processes in the formation of clouds.) Feller wrote When light energy strikes a surface it is absorbed completely by the atoms in that material and then NEW light is produced and radiated outward. 1.Laser travels through cloud (atmosphere).according to Feller Laser retains VIRTUALLY ALL its characteristics 2.Laser travels through air and strikes water (liquid) surface (as Feller understands surface).according to Feller photon strikes a surface it is completely ABSORBED by that surface and then a NEW photon is produced and radiated out from there. meaning it is no longer laser, after that 3.Laser travels through air and strikes ice (solid) surface (as Feller understands surface). according to Feller photon strikes a surface it is completely ABSORBED by that surface and then a NEW photon is produced and radiated out from there. meaning it is no longer laser, after that But ,sir, The cloud, water and ICE are consisted of the same MOLECULES and same atoms according to you completely ABSORB the (light) photon!!?? Water, cloud and ICE are all the SAME substance .Therefore you can not use the words COMPLETELY ABSORBED and RETAINS VIRTUALLY ALL when referring laser retaining characteristics when colliding with these three (just an example, I have to draw it to you like this I guess so you can understand) Sir, GAS is a substance ALSO.WE live in gas. WE breathe GAS. ,The earth the solar system, the rocky cores of the earth, all chemical elements existing formed from the accretion of heavier material in the original proto-solar nebulous cloud of gas and dust and acted as the seeds around which the lighter material - primarily hydrogen and helium ??“ became gravitationally bound and formed solids . I know I am Blonde and all but everyone stop putting me down...make jokes where I make them...in open topic forum I will have some new ones for u guys

give me some....credit...common

But I am on the topic Why are you like that...putting me down...is it because I am blonde,and a girl?

girls prefer hard D*** than abundance of hair in man.If side effects like those described here exist...better to hide something sweet to give it to her than to show hair first and then no show in bed. Just a thought from a girl side...perspective boys

Oh I am sorry Bill...I did not want to sound like him....I just thought since this si the forum for jokes to tell few... I read this instructions Posted January 17, 2005 07:30 PM January 17, 2005 07:30 PM Use this forum for anything you feel does not belong in other forums on the message board. Sports, muscle cars, hunting, fishing, current events, anything (no nudity, please) This is your forum to do with as you please. -Robert ------------------------------ Check out the results of my surgical hair restoration performed by Dr. Jerry Cooley by visiting my Hair Loss Weblog I don't like John36.He is NOT my friend. I agree with you he was nonsensical poster. I think he is actually completely emotional,like crying baby??¦but don't tell him I said this please. Also please could you tell Feller and PGP not to call people phony's ,crazy and fools? I am a female I get upset easy...it is not fair

yeah I agree with you Bill. HE sounds VERY unstable...I did not know who he was but since you mentioned him I checked his posts....my god.He will probably go to Hell with such nonsensual nature. I understand why was he banned. I mean WHO WOULD CHRIST BAN??!!NO ONE ... WHO WOULD JESUS BAN???!!!NO ONE but my god...even you did not know what else to tell him but get out of here. You as a counselor with Christian foundation... said enough

PGP Oh Im not a advocate of lllt. Thats some buuuuuuuuullllllsh*t Ill give you credit though your not as transparent as some of these other fools PGP When you were staring into your little gun and that little laser pointer attached to it yesterday??¦ you lost any credit you might have had before. So you are NOT correct and you can't give any credit to any fools??¦rather they could lend you some ??¦

Of course that is a nonsense. Solid (what Feller calls surface)forms of those chemical substances might not be as porous as their gas forms, but because they are consisted of the same elements and molecules (atoms )they are still porous. If laser can travel through them, remaining laser, it can travel regardless of if they are solids or gas or liquid. Laser does transform into radiation and heat through its journey colliding with the mater (those molecules, atoms).It transforms (loses as Feller says) less when colliding with gas, then when colliding with solid, because of the COMPOSITION of those molecules atoms when they are in the aggregate of a solid. Solids have Denser composition, thus transform more of the laser energy into heat and radiation than gas does. even glass contains 60-75% silica, 12-18% soda, and 5-12% lime??¦.or/and high percentage of lead oxide (at least 20% of the batch)??¦. or/and borosilicate glass, is any silicate glass having at least 5% of boric oxide in its composition??¦. But all that substances that in a glass are solids can be gas??¦for http://www.nanoscience.gatech....er/2002/02_APL_2.pdf Feller to find the answer does LLLT laser reach the follicles 'as a laser' and if it does how much of it, one need to shift experiments on molecular scale, not what we can see with naked eye. We can't see much of laser spectrum by naked eye. Feller says (When light energy strikes a surface it is absorbed completely by the atoms in that material and then NEW light is produced and radiated outward. While the frequency of the new light is more or less the same as the original, the coherency of that original light energy is completely lost, and the power is attenuated with respect to the brightness of the material.) Instead, when a photon strikes a surface it is completely ABSORBED by that surface and then a NEW photon is produced and radiated out from there. Even if the incoming light is coherent (laser) the outgoing light will always be non-coherent UNLESS that surface is mirrored, which scalp skin clearly is no. What is a surface sir? What do you mean when you say surface? Is for an example ice a surface? Water has the ability to exist as liquid, gas or solid. The transformation from liquid to gas is called evaporation; the reverse process, from gas to liquid, is called condensation; from liquid to solid is known as solidification (freezing); and from solid to liquid, fusion (melting). Water can also be transformed directly from solid to gas, or the reverse, through a process called sublimation. ( see these various processes in the formation of clouds.) Feller wrote When light energy strikes a surface it is absorbed completely by the atoms in that material and then NEW light is produced and radiated outward. 1.Laser travels through cloud (atmosphere).according to Feller Laser retains VIRTUALLY ALL its characteristics 2.Laser travels through air and strikes water (liquid) surface (as Feller understands surface).according to Feller photon strikes a surface it is completely ABSORBED by that surface and then a NEW photon is produced and radiated out from there. meaning it is no longer laser, after that 3.Laser travels through air and strikes ice (solid) surface (as Feller understands surface). according to Feller photon strikes a surface it is completely ABSORBED by that surface and then a NEW photon is produced and radiated out from there. meaning it is no longer laser, after that But ,sir, The cloud, water and ICE are consisted of the same MOLECULES and same atoms according to you completely ABSORB the (light) photon!!?? Water, cloud and ICE are all the SAME substance .Therefore you can not use the words COMPLETELY ABSORBED and RETAINS VIRTUALLY ALL when referring laser retaining characteristics when colliding with these three (just an example, I have to draw it to you like this I guess so you can understand) Sir, GAS is a substance ALSO.WE live in gas. WE breathe GAS. ,The earth the solar system, the rocky cores of the earth, all chemical elements existing formed from the accretion of heavier material in the original proto-solar nebulous cloud of gas and dust and acted as the seeds around which the lighter material - primarily hydrogen and helium ??“ became gravitationally bound and formed solids . You ONLY understand solids as a SURFACE. Sir, Everything that exists was once GAS. If you claim that laser retains all its characteristics when Traveling through GAS, you are wrong. It does not. Partially light energy is transformed to heat, radiation etc (NOT as YOU say completely lost, Sir energy can not be LOST, can ONLY be transformed). Sir, It is the same for the SOLIDS. Traveling through solids Laser light energy is transformed to heat, radiation etc not COMPLETELY LOST SIR, not lost even one bit, energy does not 'disappear', it gets transformed). You do NOT know basics of Physic. You do not know how to debate. You Insult people who never gave you reason for that. You think that your claim is sound. Publish it in a scientific paper then. You think that your claim is sound. Bet then with GH as you proposed your self. Don't INSULT the man by calling him phony. He never called you names, SIR. When you hold peace of skin if front of the laser,see picture in your post, and say ??¦see laser COMPLETELY GONE.. laser is COMPLETELY GONE ,BECAUSE,WE don't SEE it any more. you overlook something Sir Know this basic fact ,SIR, we are blind to many wavelengths of light. Visible light waves are the only electromagnetic waves we can see Actually as already note in this forum,what we actually see is visible radiation. A display or graph of the intensity of visible radiation emitted or absorbed by a material as a function of wavelength or some related parameter. You can not see the light it self ,you only see its interaction with mater which results in radiation . Proof that laser (or light) interacts with molecules when traveling through AIR therefore,Sir,is because we see it (it is visible to US).Do not claim nonsense,that laser retains VIRTUALLY all power (100% as YOU say) traveling through air.And do not claim nonsense that is not longer a laser when traveling through solids (or surface as you understand solids) or liquids .It is not as YOU say'completely ABSORBED by that surface and then a NEW photon is produced and radiated out from there. meaning it is no longer laser, after that' What the hell do you mean by surface? Mater? Everything you see or know about is MATER and ENERGY.In fact mater and energy are the SAME THING. In physics, mass??“energy equivalence is the concept that any mass has an associated energy and vice versa. In special relativity this relationship is expressed using the mass??“energy equivalence formula ' E = energy, ' m = mass, ' c = the speed of light in a vacuum (celeritas), You take your video for 'REVISION' sir. Or, publish it in science journal. Don't spill venom on people calling them names.That is not cool.Your potential patients don't want someone with rage and anger,holding scalpel on their skin ,typing here in between surgeries.

Two laser combs meet up in a bar. The first one asks, "Did your hear the news ??“ the video is dead??!!!" "Woah, what the hell happened to it?" "Well it was on its way over to glory??¦.and then the other day driving didn't brake properly and boom - it hit the curb, flipped over and it crashed through the sunroof - Went flying through the air and smashed through my upstairs bedroom window." "What a horrible way to die!" "No no, it survived that, that didn't kill it at all. So, it is landed in my upstairs bedroom and it is all covered in broken glass on the floor. Then, it spots the big old antique wardrobe we have in the room,where I live,by my master bed??¦.., and reaches up for the handle to try to pull it self up. It's just dragging itself up when bang, this massive wardrobe comes crashing down on top of it, crushing and breaking most of it's bones." "What a way to go, that's terrible!" "No no, that didn't kill it??¦it survived that. It managed to get the wardrobe off ??¦ and crawls out onto the landing, ??¦ tries to pull itself up on the banister but under his weight,(7000 hits)??¦ the banister breaks and it goes falling down on to the first floor. In mid air, all the broken banister poles spin and fall on it, pinning it to the floor, sticking right through him." "Now that is the most unfortunate way to go!" "No no, that didn't kill it, ??¦it even survived that. So it's on the downstairs landing, just beside the kitchen. It crawls in to the kitchen, tries to pull itself up on the stove, but reached for a big pot of boiling hot water, whoosh, the whole thing came down on??¦ and burned most of it's tape off it." "Man, what a way to go!" "No no, it survived that, it survived that! ??¦.It's lying on the ground, covered in boiling water and it spots the phone and tries to pull itself up, to call for help, but instead ??¦ grabs the light switch and pulls the whole thing off the wall and the water and electricity didn't mix and so it got electrocuted, wallop, 10,000 volts shot through it man??¦.." "Wow??¦??¦Now that is one awful way to go!" "No no, it survived that..." "Hold on now, just how the hell did it die?" "I shot it!" "You shot it? What the hell did you shoot it for?" "It was wrecking my house??¦man"

Feller I never said that I was,I never said that I was not and I never said that you should believe any of those two,or to believe anything at all. Please,believe what you want. PGP wrote: "Could you dumb it down for me?" Sure man here it is: When you look on the other side of that paper tisue blocking the laser as GH sugested,Do not stare into the beam with your remaining good eye

I don't mind this to reach 10 000 views.I will help you dr.Feller.

How much impact a laser will have on HARD surface (like a skin,paper of steel sheet) depends on laser Output power. The actual output power of the laser is the best way to judge how powerful the laser is and how far away you will be able to see the light impacting a surface and how much power is going to hit that hard surface ,for example skin(traveling through atmosphere laser hits molecules all the time Dr.Feller) . The higher the output power, the more visible the laser light will be and more powerful impact will have. Output power is measured in milliwatts (mW). A unit of power equal to one thousandth (10 -3) of a watt. It is used to measure the output power of most low to mid-power lasers. Generally lasers that exceed 999mW are measured in watts. For example, a 1000mW laser would have a power output specification of 1W. A measurement of ???laser quality??? (as Dr.Feller mentioned in the video) M2 is a single number that describes the beam's quality in comparison to a theoretically perfect Giessen beam, and that can be used to predict a real, non-Gaussian beam's behavior in an optics system.Milliampere (mA)A unit of current equal to one thousandth (10 -3) of an ampere. The current draw of a laser is often measured in milliamperes (mA) or amps (A). Dr.Feller in every laser the beam light is increasing in diameter as it travels away from the aperture??¦that sir is called Divergence. The lower the beam divergence, the smaller will be the diameter of the beam. The smaller the diameter of the beam, the smaller (and brighter) will be the spot of laser light projected onto a surface. As the beam signals move from point A to point B they experience power loss due to three physical phenomena: Attenuation, a weakening of the pulse over distance that is measured in decibels per kilometer (dB/km); chromatic dispersion and, nonlinear effects Laser range depends highly upon atmospheric conditions sir.Your statement that untill hits hard surface retains 100% laser quality is,well,false. Theoretically, laser light will travel infinitely and will have an infinite range. Much more useful criteria by which to judge the power of a laser are output power and divergence.

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Quote Dr.Feller wrote The video demonstration and its signficance are self-explanatory, any comments to the contrary can only come from a person with either an irrational mind or an agenda." Irrational minds? I dare you publish this VIDEO as an scientific evidence in support of your claim. You will be laughing stock in the scientific community mister YOUR video is 100% AGENDA (to erase competition )and 0% science.It is,as you say,JUNK SCIENCE.