Drugs110

19 minutes ago, BLE123 said:

Agree with the others, your temple recession isn't deep enough to be classed as NW3 and your forelock is still quite wide. NW2 to 2.5 max.

I actually have virtually the same hairline, it's kind of uncanny actually. You also appear to have otherwise thick hair(I do too) and also a little retrograde alopecia around the ears(me too). Can you give more information about when you first noticed your hairline receding? Did you have a straight hairline to begin with?

Personally I don't think a transplant is out of the question but not from the line you drew.

I was probably born with a very weird hairline, I don't think it ever was straight

I noticed recession at around 18 years of age

Just now, deeznuts said:

You should probably do more research.... Check out some diagrams and look at some actual real life examples of NW2. 

Do you really believe I still have my temples in a NW2 fashion?

2 minutes ago, deeznuts said:

Well no... A NW1 is just a straight hairline like Brad Pitt. And a NW2 might be slight temple recession like you're seeing right now. You're going from NW2 to NW1 and especially you're probably hiding your temples with hair so it's not even that exaggerated

As you can see, I don't have my temples any more, they're completely bald, as such I'm a NW3, not a NW2.

7 hours ago, deeznuts said:

If I was a doctor, I would reject you because you're not making any sound decisions right now. You want to get a hair transplant cause some chick called you megamind? 

You think you're gonna get attractive girls because you go from a NW2 to a NW1? 

Trust me, it won't make a difference. 

No, I'd go from NW3 to a NW2

7 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Getting a procedure that aggressive would be foolish and unnecessary. I recall you mentioned feeling unattractive to women and that being the sole reason for your desire for surgery. 

You have a perfectly good hairline that is natural. You could end up with something that looks fake and alien. A bad hair transplant is 1000x worse than a natural mature hairline.

Hairlines do not make you attractive, facial structure is a lot more important. If you want to get a cosmetic procedure to make you more attractive, believe me a hair transplant is not it.

True, but the hairline's a part of the facial structure and it's very underrated when it comes to the framing of a face

1 hour ago, BDK081522 said:

@Melvin-Moderator this young ambitious 24 year old needs guidance. He's demonstrating the very misconceived notion of only caring about his hair until he's 35. Drugs110, we all know what's it's like to start receding early. Most on this forum started noticing recession or crown thinning in their early 20's. Many have had the same thought that we want our juvenile hairline back. This is a very ill conceived plan at your age. Since you've shown loss early you will continue to lose, especially if not on medical therapy. No ethical surgeon will give you what you're asking for because they are trying to protect you from yourself and your desire to attain this boxy juveline hairline. Your donor is limited and you must treat it as a finite resource. Secondly, I think you're confused on terminology. Your temples have receded, not your temple points. Your temple points are very strong actually and trying to graft this area would open yourself up to shock loss. Trust the responses you get from this forum. We're trying to offer sound advice. The undeniable fact is that you most certainly will care about your hair past 35 so plan for the future. 

I have been on fin 1mg a day for 1 year now

If I lose my hair at, say, 35, then I'll get a quality hair system

Girls I want to date always make fun of my hairline and hair, calling me megamind etc I'm tired of it. They're very sensitive to guys who are young and balding. 

If I'm going to attract attractive girls, I'll need to fix my hairline.

As I have said previously, I'm fine with a NW2 hair transplant, giving me a NW2 hairline instead of a NW1. OK. But I absolutely must lower my hairline a tiny bit and much much more importantly, fix my temples completely

7 minutes ago, Richie888 said:

I think you have got a strong forelock looking at the pics. If you went from the first hair at the front and curved into your temples you would get a good result. That line from above your first wrinkle would look ridiculous and progressively worse as you age. 

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I think you have got a strong forelock looking at the pics.

My forelock is way too high-set, it needs to be lowered.

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If you went from the first hair at the front and curved into your temples you would get a good result.

No, I am convinced I need a slightly lower hairline AND very good temple points / fully filled-in (NW2 max) temples

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That line from above your first wrinkle would look ridiculous and progressively worse as you age. 

True, but I'm only 24 and I want this hairline I'm talking about until I"m 30 maybe 35 if I'm really lucky. Meaning I don't care about how I'll look when I'm older. 

3 minutes ago, qui bono said:

im a little confused as you have incredibly well defined temple points. do you mean the temples? 

you can still send online consults and ask them to draw a hairline for you

I absolutely do not have them. well-defined temple points?

I remember a Dr doing that, he's from Turkey, one of the most well-known ones, I can't remember his name. But that hairline was way too high for me and that guy didn't care about the fact I want sharp and straight temple points. I'm OK with NW2 temples but that's the max limit here, I want a really good hairline. 

2 minutes ago, qui bono said:

I remember you from your other posts  its going to be far too straight im afraid, when what you want to do is curve it slightly. this guy made the exact same mistake as you and it looks unnatural.

 

 

have you tried doing any consults (preferably in person) and asking them to draw a hairline for you? 

No, not in person, can't be arsed plus it's covid season. In my city there's no HT docs, I'd have to travel to the capital city 250km away from me. No thanks.

The most I'M willing to do curve-wise is get a NW2 instead of a NW1 completely straight hairline and that's it.

Because my temporal points are HORRIBLE. It's so nasty to look at.

By the way, when I drew that red line, I only did that to show where my natural hairline's supposed to start. Because I was told that your natural hairline is supposed to start just above the highest wrinkle on your forehead when you crease it

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My goal is to get a square, straight hairline that starts just above the last wrinkle on my forehead when I pull my eyebrows up. I was told that's where a natural hairline should start. I want fully filled-in temples/temporal points that connect diagonally and laterally to the forelock, ie a straight hairline.

Thank you for the help

16 minutes ago, transplantedphil said:

i watched 30 second of that guy and turned him off. why would anyone want to be like him

anyway looks like hes a strong NW1. your current hair doesnt look too far off from that, so i think youre focusing too much on the little things and failing to see the bigger picture. Your face shape might come into play with how your hair looks as well, but as i dont see any real issues i would strongly urge you to avoid surgery and wait until there is a serious problem - this industry just isnt worth the risks. I wish you luck

What do you mean?

3 hours ago, Gatsby said:

From the glabella (the point between the eyebrows) the hairline 'ideally' should be 7cm's high. This obviously varies and in older men should be slightly higher. This is if you want a 'natural' looking hairline and not something from Planet of the Apes!

Alright but what if I want a hairline like like that of this guy

10 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

What women, tell them that they’re not perfect either.

Young, between 18-25 years of age. Yeah ofc they're not but remember, women are the choosers when it comes to sex and relationships. If I don't look good enough to her, I won't be able to bang her hahaha. 

2 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I would agree with therapy, especially if you have almost zero hair loss and belong to several hair loss forums. 

I do sadly, and also I was born with a naturally big forehead. As I have said before, women always comment on my big forehead/receeding hairline. 

11 hours ago, Gatsby said:

That hairline is far too low. You have to remember you will be living with this for the rest of your life. You need a hairline that you can grow into, not out of. I have the scars to prove it.

I understand that  but what if I'm a very good responder to finasteride/dutasteride and only want my hair/-line to be excellent till age 35? Let's assume that

1 hour ago, ItHasToLookNatural said:

lmaoo ive seen you on PHG.

 

Seek therapy bro

11 hours ago, BeHappy said:

If you were going to do something it should be similar to the position of black line I'm showing here. However I don't think you should do anything. I'm showing this because I know some guys insist on getting work done and think they need to improve things that don't need improving, so if that's you I want to make sure you don't screw up your life too bad.

What's the point if that hairline is barely lower than my current hairline, no offense? My biggest issue is the temporal points btw, so the temple peaks on both sides. I only want to lower my hairline just a tiny tiny bit, the main objective is to straighten out / sharpen out my temporal points. 

Please take a look at this

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I have a 5-finger forehead. I plan to keep my current hair. If I do, when I turn 25 (I'm 23), will I be able to ask for this hairline design? Hairline designs are supposed to be zig-zag from what I've seen, when going for a hair transplant, that is.

So if I show to a HT surgeon, will he give it to me, more than  likely?

If so, how many grafts would be needed approximately? Would 2k suffice for dense packing?

On 8/26/2020 at 4:08 AM, ciaus said:

Probably too risky my friend. Excellent temple points are awesome, but are very difficult to recreate with transplanted hair. In the HT game its not always enough to be able to see where improvement would be possible, and its not like he doesn't have any temple points to even mess up, what he has is ok. You have to weigh risk/reward.

What do you mean?

18 minutes ago, transplantedphil said:

Ive mostly seen his clinic postings. The patient ones ive seen are merely "ok".

If I judged every doc by their cherry picked "best case scenario"  results id think the industry was a wonderful place full of ethical people all emotionally invested in my personal wellbeing ❤️

The only way you can truly assess a clinic is their patient verified reports. if getting a HT was easy nobody would waste any of their time in places like these. 

Can you link them? 

I just want to ask why you didn't also change the temple points? So that they'd connect to the forelock slightly diagonally and laterally to make the new hairline completely square?

Great work however

Just now, JohnAC71 said:

FUE will leave tiny white dots/scars for every graft that’s taken. Times that by however many grafts and you could have say 2000 white dots/scars spaced across your donor zone. So if you go too short they will be visable. No matter who does the HT there is no escaping this. Those of us that have had FUE know this and have to accept it. 

Oh right, right, I see what you mean. I was thinking of the new temple peaks hahaha. It wouldn't phase me tho, I'd just tell the girl / person asking that I've had a hair transplant. If they think it's weird, then that's their problem

4 hours ago, Sean said:

Your hairline currently looks good.  That whole square hairline and closing your temples in wishes will prob cost you like 2000 grafts and add many risks to your head.  You wont be able to do a proper fade.  Your donor will be shocked and decimated leaving You with Density issues.  If your transplant fails, you will be left chasing repairs and risk massive scarring.  The way hair transplants are marketed is deceptive.  You got great hair for starters.  If you think you are shedding hair, ask a dermatologist.  Only if you are and a doctor says so, look into meds to preserve your hair to save you from future desperation.

 

do not fix what isn’t broken.  I had a similar widows peak and etc as you.  Doctors destroyed aesthetics to it and added to my despair.  Thats after shelling out money as well.  Now im bound to forums to find some corrections.  Dont believe the hype and get caught up with this.  

Why won't I be able to do a proper fade 1-1.5 years post-transplant? 

Why would I develop density issues if the doc is someone like Couto? Have you seen his results?

3 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Man, after reading your comments, you are 💯 not a suitable candidate. Life exists beyond your 20’s. Believe me, you will care what you look like until the day you die. Your hairline isn’t your problem, look at henry cavill, no one cares that he’s a Norwood 2. If you really want to improve your appearance start with the gym. 

You forgot that he doesn't have anywhere the forehead size (not the hairline) that I have always had since I was born. Genetically big forehead+"low" Norwood (Norwood 2 I think, wdyt?) ruins my hairline for me. This is why I want a transplant. Also, compare his temple points to mine, his are way better

3 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Honestly, I think you need to work on your mental health first. There seems to be a dysmorphia. Even if you get a hair transplant there’s no guarantee it will be a success, and even if it is, you may not be happy with the results. If you think that’s disgusting, imagine a failed hair transplant. What’s worse? 

Why would such an extremely expensive yet excellent doc such as Dr Couto give me a botched transplant?

I'm so confused. What is this classified as?

21 minutes ago, Mycroft said:

For starters they're probably trying to avoid patients who are confusing a mature hairline with MPB and pulling the trigger on a major surgery without actually knowing what they are getting into. Again, NW2 is not male pattern baldness. There's no NW0. NW1 is a juvenile hairline. NW2 is an adult hairline that 99% of adult men have before they start balding. Actual baldness doesn't start until NW2A at absolute earliest, or NW3 if you'd rather keep it simple. But more importantly, did you ask these doctors why they turned you down due to age when you had your consultations? Did any of them discuss the risks with you?

If you're dead set on this surgery I can't stop you, but I do want you to know what you're getting into because even the best surgeon in the world cannot guarantee you a good result. Do you have a plan for what you'll do if yours isn't good?

Far as I can see, I do have some slight thinning in the crown area altho now 5 months into finasteride it seems to have regrown quite a lot which is reassuring for me for sure

Yes, I did, they told me that I was too young, way too young and they wanted to see how the disease would progress over the next 2 years (until age 25 that is). Or else I'd be chasing loss.

Yes, I know, Dr. Couto is top-tier so the risks are minimal. I do have genetically thick hair (as in, the type of hair: coarse or thin or thick etc you get where I'm going with this), my skin is pale white (nordic complexion) and my natural hair color is dark blonde so I think because of this contrast, the number of grafts needed to achieve the desire density and hairline design will be favorable. I still have yet to know exactly how many grafts I have available for HT in my life

If mine doesn't turn out good I'll ask Dr Couto to repair it. I've read reports that say he did it for free.

I'm not keen on getting HTs either, but sadly at this point, I'm forced to, because this hairline can't be styled. Barbers can do an alright job but like I said earlier I can't go to a barber every day for time schedule-related and financial reasons. My hair is always flat, and these oval temporal regions on both sides are absolutely disgusting and ruin any hairstyle even the barber gives me. I have to make my hairline "square" straight again to look good and youthful (remember I'm just 23, I'm not supposed to have this hairline at 23, I'M still supposed to have an intact NW1 straight square hairline, that the type of guys has that the girls want, sexually desire. And yes I agree, women have crazy expectations but what can I do? Supply / Demand)