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On 10/2/2022 at 1:27 AM, JoDimaggio22 said:

Does he do slits beforehand like a stick and place or DHI whatever they call it or does he use an implanter pen?

Somehow I missed this question.. my apologies.

I plan to call him this week and will ask him all of the above 

22 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

I saw Mwamba mention on a thread recently that there are different quality solutions different Dr's use to store the grafts. I wonder what Nader uses 

Just read your comment . I will ask him the punch size , solution , turn-over rate of techs etc .

Any other questions I should ask ... Please send to me 

Thx guys 

19 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

This is interesting. I'm going to Nader in about a month and was considering doing the partial shave

I will probably reach out to him over the weekend to discuss things more in detail. Contemplating on doing a consultation with someone local, maybe they can assess it better in person. 

1 hour ago, 5BetaReductase said:

As someone who went to their original surgeon to “make things better,” tread very carefully. I would want to know exactly what happened during the first surgery that led to suboptimal results even before I stepped into their office again. I trusted my doctor too much and he ended up using more grafts, destroying my donor further, and not providing much extra.

 

you have limited donor and you don’t wanna scar up an area too badly where nothing will grow.

I have been weighing that aspect as well. I did everything I was advised to do post procedure .. even took an extra month off from the gym. I have no idea what caused the failure . My guess is the follicles may have been left out too long and / or could it be that he did a no shave fue? 

I commend Dr Nader for offering a new Ht or refund . I am torn on what to do because like you said .. donor hair is limited 

1 hour ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

Thanks for the update - looking at this recent batch of pictures I agree now, this is a sub-optimal result.

I wonder if the culprit is simply that too few grafts were used? In your original post you say original plan was 2000-2500 but ended up with 1720? 

Good to know Nader is standing by his work though. I take it he is charging you nothing at all for the revision? 

Glad someone else sees what I do. Dr. Nader agreed that this is not the results he hoped for. He is doing the new Ht in December and said he will do whatever it takes to make it right. This is why I have said he has integrity. The plan is more grafts to thicken the front and possibly lower it a tad 

Right at the 10th month and it is what it is. I do have some growth but definitely not over 50%. I pretty  much style my hair the same way as I did before the HT, which is somewhat of a pushover that covers up certain areas in the front. This is definitely not what I was expecting, having the same hairstyle as before. I thought I would get some thickness to be able to wear it parted to the side ie corp look 

(1)The best pic is my hair styled and pushed around. I was at the drs office and snapped a few of my hair styled.

The others are bathroom lighting with areas uncovered . 

On 9/28/2022 at 12:08 AM, Iceee222 said:

Has your opinion changed on Nader yet as I am considering him still? I’d appreciate to hear your thoughts on him

Dr. Nader is a very honorable man with integrity. We came to an agreement that I will go back for a revision in December. I seriously doubt any of the turkey transplant doctors and definitely not US doctors ,would offer a revision just so I will be 100% happy. 

On 6/29/2022 at 10:24 AM, Trichotrophy said:

I agree, and the progress is unmistakable with that juxtaposition.

Sorry if you're not satisfied with your current results, OP; but as others have stated, that's realistically as much as you should expect at this juncture of recovery with that amount of grafts. It'll take a few more months for all surviving post-shock-loss follicles to regrow, and its total coverage will continue improving for another few-several months as all regrown follicles (which are fine initially) thicken up in diameter (which may take multiple regrowth cycles).

You won't know the final results for better or worse until then, but I'd give it the benefit of the doubt based on your current progress and Nader's track record. You may or may not need more grafts down the road for your desired density, but I don't think any reasonable person will find this outcome disappointing when it's all said and done.

Thk you 

Honestly I'm in chill mode now ... What will be ... Will be 

Thx for your reply 

15 hours ago, CitizenB said:

I’m not sure why you say you’ve had “zero” growth brother. Look again. And as many have said this is about HALFWAY to the goal line. I wouldn’t get another HT until you know what your working with. Those donor hairs are precious. Use them wisely. 

Thx for reply.. Dr Nader and I text once a month and he wants me to give it till Nov / Dec for judgement day. I want everyone on here to know he's a class act with integrity... A very sincere trustworthy doctor. 

On 6/23/2022 at 9:34 PM, GoliGoliGoli said:

Final q: Where were you on the Norwood scale prior to the 1st ht?

18 hours ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

I started taking a Testosterone supplement 6 months ago (Not thinking how it would effect my hair) and it definitely seemed not to help at the very least... So I know the struggle

 

 

I will be very transparent with you .. do not take the  steroid tren . It will wreck your hair. I got big on it but paid for it with hairloss . Like I said , had I not taken it 2015 ... I would not have needed a 3rd touch up 

1 hour ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

Interesting. First time I've heard of a bad result coming out of Nader's clinic. Was the guys 3rd HT so maybe that has something to do with it? It's also still very early, people say 12 months wait period for a reason 

This is the op ... 3rd ht ... But all were small ... More for cosmetic reasons because of the career I was in . 1st was in '98 ( 750 grafts ) 2nd was 2008 (1200 grafts ) 3rd was 12/2021 (1726) grafts .  Had I not taken a harsh steroid in 2015 ... I would not have needed the most recent one . 

Anyhow, just giving some insight on the 3 hts and how small they were compared to others on the forum 

9 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Honestly, I would wait until 12 months. If you end up 70% satisfied, I’d stick with Nader. In the end, you won’t know what to choose until after 12 months. Any surgeon willing to do another procedure at 7 months in the same area isn’t being ethical in my opinion. 

Thk you Melvin .Be back with updates next month 

5 hours ago, Braindrain said:

I know you didn’t ask me but I think I’d take the refund and put it towards a new doctor especially if he’s offering it. What’s good about Nader is he’s low cost for typically decent work but if he’s failed you consider the refund a discount on a better surgeon imo.
 

tbh I’m actually shocked with how poor your results have turned out for 7 whole months especially as from what I see on the internet Nader does good work. Wonder how many poor results we don’t get to see because he doesn’t have a big presence on social media. Not even sure how many people see him annually. Kinda making me rethink Nader’s work a bit and my future appointment but good on him for offering you a full refund.

Thk you for the sincere reply ..I am really dumbfounded as to why i have about 10% growth ...I'm being optimistic stating 10% . Reading old post on this forum and the only answer I can think of is the follicles were left out too long before being implanted . Dr. Nader is very ethical and kind so I have no I'll will towards him .. especially if he does refund me . 

3 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Wait the full year. Unless you want to get additional grafts in an area that hasn't been transplanted before.

I want to get thickness in the same area I had done 7 months ago..i would also add some temple work as well.

Another question for you.. I told you a few weeks ago that Nader offered to give me a refund... If it were you, would you ask for a second procedure or would you get the refund? Because I've read on the forum that everyone says if the first one failed why would you go back to the same Dr.

Thx again 

On 5/28/2022 at 1:30 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

That’s a good suggestion, wow, he’s a very ethical surgeon. Very happy to hear he’s standing by you, though, I still feel there’s time for change.

Melvin 

How long should I wait before getting another transplant ?  I just calculated the time and I'm at the 7 month mark. I want to try one last time to try and thicken up the area that Dr.Nader worked on. I'm asking you because I don't know if there's like a certain time frame I should wait because of the trauma that was done to the area so maybe I should wait a year etc. Thank you for your time.

3 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Why would you need to create a new thread? Just keep this thread and provide updates.

Ahh ok .

Just an FYI ..Dr Nader has been concerned as well. I would also like to point out that he is a very stand-up and gracious person. He asked me to just give it some more time and let's address it in 9 to 12 months. He did offer to refund me, this speaks volumes about him in my book. Based upon that I'm just going to chill and see what happens over the next 3 to 6 months.

On 5/19/2022 at 2:57 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

You’re not done growing at 5 1/2 months. You have 7 months left. Not sure why you’re conceiting defeat halfway. 

Melvin, I wanted to ask your permission to start a new thread in regards to having zero changes at 6 mos. As well as an honest review of how Dr. Nader has been in regards to this . I know you guys all say give it 12 mos. But let's be realistic...6 mos and zero growth = failure 

How long does donor area need to heal before another fue? Contemplating on trying one last proceedure this summer. The most recent 1726 grafts was almost 6 months ago. 

40 minutes ago, Gokuhairline said:

like melvin said you still have more months to go.....doesn't look too bad....are u on any meds? good lucl

Oral minoox, 1m propecia daily and 1.5 microneedle 1x per month. 

Just now, Melvin- Moderator said:

You’re not done growing at 5 1/2 months. You have 7 months left. Not sure why you’re conceiting defeat halfway. 

Appreciate the comment Melvin . I'm a realist and definitely should have more progress at 5.5 months . 

On 5/13/2022 at 7:38 PM, Braindrain said:

Any updates on your results? Have you noticed additional growth?

Just took these photos today. All I see is maybe 10 new hairs in the widow peak area that the doctor created. Aside from that, no new thickness, nothing. I am at about 5 and 1/2 months. Definitely not happy with the results but it is what it is we live and we learn.

3 hours ago, Braindrain said:

Any chance at an update? Your hair loss pattern is just like mine with the recession and thinning in frontal third. I’m booked with Nader and trying to ensure I made a good choice.

2 hours ago, shiba1985 said:

Man you need to chill. Not saying you will have a great result or a bad result but it seems like you need to sort out your emotions cause they are all over the place. 
How can you tell that something is improved cause of meds and not surgery. You definitely look better then pre surgery and looks like the fuzzy appearance before the growth explodes. 
 

 

Thx

On 4/2/2022 at 9:35 AM, Melvin- Moderator said:

Watch this

 

Thx