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4 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Your hair looks fantastic from every angle 👌

Thk you,Melvin.

Definitely a much better result at 6 months than last time. Excited to see what the next six progress will be.

First set of photos are fresh out of the shower, hair blow dried,no product.

Second set, spray wax in hair.

I took these in different lighting and used a flash. I also wanted to show the donor areas.

Curious to see what you guys think. I definitely see changes.

1 hour ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

Wow this looks extremely natural and extremely dense packed. 

 

Would be interested in seeing some in harsher lighting, maybe with flash on and under a light

Will do that. I've tried to keep the photos consistent sitting in the same spot, similar lighting etc 

6 month update 

On 3/21/2023 at 7:35 PM, Melvin- Moderator said:

Would love an update as well.

Melvin, posted updated pics. Curious to see what your thoughts are

5 hours ago, vortex91 said:

Dang man I think those results are looking pretty good. Thank you for posting this!

I am personally considering Nader and this result only 4 months in gives me more confidence in moving forward with him tbh.

I def think you should be seeing some more thickness coming in, but even where it is now I think it’s pretty good.

Thk you . I feel in two months should really be able to make a the call on it 

will post pics later this year

This weekend I will post some photos and let you guys be the judge. I honestly dont see a change yet. I will let you guys be the judge . I really have a idgaf attitude about it right now . I was pissed about my last one being a failure and now I just don't even care. 

4 hours ago, Norwood_infinity said:

Any update?

Too soon to tell. Only at the 2 month mark 

On 12/12/2022 at 10:31 PM, sfconsultant said:

I understand it taking a bit but it has been 6 weeks since the original email exchange. That is crazy. 

Pm me your phone #.. full name .. email 

4 hours ago, sfconsultant said:

Thanks so much. It is pcello@me.com. It's been frustrating not to hear back from Brenda.

Just sent to him 

On 11/30/2022 at 12:02 AM, sfconsultant said:

Hi there. I’m just wondering if anybody has any tips about getting in touch with Dr. Nader‘s office? I sent an email and they originally responded to me… It was Brenda the office manager and it’s now been three weeks since that initial email and even though I’ve emailed them several times she does not get back to me. 

I speak with him weekly. What's your email and I will ask him to get back with you 

On 11/14/2022 at 7:29 PM, Trichotrophy said:

Good luck with your outcome this time around!

I'm sorry you didn't yield the results you should have had with the first operation. This is the first failed FUE I've seen from Nader, and I'm really curious as to what exactly sunk it. It doesn't seem that he's used any different methods or instruments than he has for most other patients, and they've all had consistently solid-to-great results.

Part of it definitely seemed to be a miscalculation on his part. Most patients I've seen who needed that extent of coverage required well over 2,000 grafts.

The real crux of the failure, however, seems to be a poor graft-survival rate. Your hairline shouldn't have been that see-through with that amount of grafts, unless they were all single-follicle grafts.

Has Nader shared any theories as to why there was apparently so much graft loss? Anything that might have caused graft rejections?

Most likely it was just anomaly and you'll get better results from this second FUE, but I don't feel as if the initial failure should go unexplained.

It could be due to several factors . Graft miscalculation and I do not have many triple and quad  hair follicles. Per the count sheet, I have a majority of singles and doubles. 

On 11/14/2022 at 1:58 PM, GoliGoliGoli said:

Ya I had the same question. Nader's post op care says to very gently wash and massage the recipient area starting day 3 (48 hours post HT). He explained the idea is to begin removing the scabs or at least starting to "sand them down". 

I followed the instructions and washed and massaged on day 3, but haven't since then as it seems a bit on the aggressive side. I don't think I lost or damaged anything but just being safe

I just sent Nader a text asking for the reasoning behind this and that others state to wait a week. 

10 hours ago, pidds said:

Looks like great work. How may grafts?

Thx. 1772

10 hours ago, pidds said:

Looks like great work. How may grafts?

Thx . 1772

Just finished my 2nd procedure with Dr. Nader. Was such a great experience. He has perfected the "no pain" numbing.

He and I both feel confident that this procedure Will yield the results that he and I want. The goal is to achieve thickness in the areas that were transplanted last year. He did a slight modification to the hairline because I really wanted to have more coverage in the temple and frontal widow peak.

He did advise me to eliminate creatine from pre-workouts etc. He said there are some studies that are linking creatine to hair thinning. 

It's 7:25 pm and I'm back in the hotel for a few hours now and I am pain free chilling . 

Just finished my 2nd procedure with Dr. Nader. Was such a great experience. He has perfected the "no pain" numbing.

He and I both feel confident that this procedure Will yield the results that he and I want. The goal is to achieve thickness in the areas that were transplanted last year. He did a slight modification to the hairline because I really wanted to have more coverage in the temple and frontal widow peak.

He did advise me to eliminate creatine from pre-workouts etc. He said there are some studies that are linking creatine to hair thinning. 

It's 7:25 pm and I'm back in the hotel for a few hours now and I am pain free chilling . 

4 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

Also, did he give any explanation for why he believes their was a miscalculation on number of grafts needed and density?

He hasn't said. When I did the initial online consult 2500 was the plan. However, in person he changed it to 1725. 

Congrats on doing yours 

2 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

Also out of curiosity, is the response about the Choi pens/incision method/solution a direct copy and paste of what Nader said? 

Yes. I sent him the questions that members have suggested.

I am scheduled to see him on Nov 11.

He thinks my issue is the miscalculation on how my grafts I needed and amount  per sq cm.

Dr. Nader has been phenomenal throughout the year. Answers text within 1 hour. 

Message from Dr. Nader :

Update on Dr. Nader's process:

We use the Choi implanter pen, but I don't believe a stabbing pen is the best option for the skin, so we do a previous incision with a cut to size blade before, and use the pen to place the grafts without handling the graft to minimize damage. 

The holding solution is Hypothermosol, and we do not let the grafts out of body for more than 6 hours in large cases. We also label the grafts by time and by number of hairs per graft, so the first graft out is the first graft in. 

43 minutes ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

I think you quoted the wrong post but nevertheless thank you for confirming!

Sorry .. I thought I was just posting 

On 9/29/2022 at 11:50 AM, GoliGoliGoli said:

Hey no worries if you don't want to say on the public thread, but is Nader charging you anything for the revision or is it totally free? Or have you not fully discussed those details yet? 

Update on Dr. Nader's process:

Let me answer here. We use the Choi implanter pen, but I don't believe a stabbing pen is the best option for the skin, so we do a previous incision with a cut to size blade before, and use the pen to place the grafts without handling the graft to minimize damage. 
The holding solution is Hypothermosol, and we do not let the grafts out of body for more than 6 hours in large cases. We also label the grafts by time and by number of hairs per graft, so the first graft out is the first graft in.