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2 hours ago, Raker said:

Fair response & you’re absolutely right. Many times ‘top tier & and perhaps many surgeons selectively forget to note it has taken more than one attempt to achieve satisfactory results. However I for one believe it’ll take more than one surgical visit to get where you want to be, as in life it’s a contant battle to achieve satisfaction. But as you say it builds false hopes for the naive. 

i mean i'm still sorta in the boat that satisfactory results can be achieved with one pass. obviously not brad pitt or any hair god results, but good results that'll rewind the clock a few years, given how advanced one's hair loss is. that being said, if you're unfortunately slick bald, and think you're gonna get that full head of luscious locks you once had pre-loss, then thats your fault for being delusional. have to be realistic here

can you post your before/after/progress of the work she has done on you? 

On 1/27/2019 at 10:16 PM, JeanLDD said:

This would be a fair enough comment if not for the fact that OP went to one of the most expensive surgeons in the world. Plenty of top-tier surgeons at significantly cheaper rates, many would be better off selecting an elite surgeon like Hasson/Wong who are relatively inexpensive for their FUT work if it meant they could afford a second surgery.

I’m also not suggesting that is usually a “requirement”, but rather virtually no one gets perfect results in a single pass, or even one that can’t be significantly improved usually. It’s just a fact. Obviously time factors, budget, location all come into this too but it should be a consideration and the vast majority of people would be better off budgeting for multiple procedures.

 

OP got a great result however and certainly doesn’t need more work at this point. But always room for improvement.

not discrediting anything you're saying, but to play devil's advocate, i feel like this would be an easier consideration and concept for ppl to understand if top-tier surgeons (not going to name names) didn't post ONLY perfect results on their sites or in these forums. obviously everyone has different degrees on hairloss and some cases are better than others, as everyone has a different experience, but i do believe that if someone goes "oh look at ALL of these fantastic results, this could be me!", and then it doesn't turn out that way, then i kinda think that it borders on being misled. sorry if this is a jumbled thought, i'm trying to type this while watching true detective lol.

Just now, Melvin-Moderator said:

Hairlines come down to aesthetics, some like Rahal, others like Hasson. As long as you’re choosing a recommended surgeon with an extensive patient portfolio you should be fine. It just depends on which type if hairline you prefer.

Some posters feel that certain doctors are known for aggressive hairlines, I don’t necessarily think that’s true. Any surgeon can perform an aggressive or conservative hairline. It depends on the patient whether it’s advisable or not.

i know rahal is a popular choice on here, but sadly i don't see many patient posted photos, only home-runs posted by the clinic. do you know why that is? hasson was my first choice, then i stumbled across nadimi while researching konior and his seemingly forever waitlist, and then i joined this forum and discovered multiple other doctors (rahal, gabel, diep, etc).  

8 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Definitely focus on the hairline and use caboki for the crown. I wouldn’t worry about that small spot, a dab of hair fibers will make it disappear. 

i'm not really as worried about the crown anymore, as i am the front. the crown has seemed to stabilize over the years, and the length i wear my hair on top it can be easily camouflaged, and worst case, concealed. i am, however, torn on just who i should go to for hairline surgery, as i don't feel 100% in on one doctor in particular. i'm doing all the research i can and following along on patient threads. my goal is to have something booked for after christmas this year.

On 11/8/2018 at 12:41 PM, Panamera13 said:

I don't think you need an HT at all; yes you have some hair loss but not much and looks good. With HT, your appearance won't change much.

why's that? just curious

On 1/26/2019 at 6:13 AM, JeanLDD said:

Both among top-tier clinics, particularly Rahal one of the best hairline surgeons in the world still. Neither has a lot of patient posted results at the moment which is the particular drawback I'd personally consider. 

yea i've noticed this as well. why is that? it's making me skeptical that none of these "home-runs" have been posted by patients, moreso of dr. rahal.  i'm waiting on a few nadimi results to come to fruition before i pull the trigger. idk i'm so back and forth 

where are the pics

21 hours ago, Raker said:

Not convinced about the hairline but if the recipient is that’s all that matters. 

care to elaborate?

22 hours ago, Squidward said:

So after all my consults, for his track record of results, ease of contact, (his patient advisor Aaron was so  quick and helpful with responses) price, and the fact that my work is mostly around the hairline, I have decided to go with Dr. Rahal, made my deposit today, and in May I am heading to Ottawa!

i'm looking at rahal myself, in addition to others, but idk there's something holding me back. i just don't see enough patient reviews and detailed talk about his procedures, like you do with others. also, there's been a rep chasing me down for a consultation since visiting the site, (where as another doctor i've consulted with, straight up said we don't need your money lol). i know he's considered world renowned and recommended on here, but i just don't know, i've read mixed reviews.

On 1/22/2019 at 4:12 AM, JeanLDD said:

For mid-large size procedures and happy to wait over a year for surgery, Freitas. For a mid-large sized procedure and a smaller waiting list, ASMED for FUE or HnW for FUT. For a small refinement or hairline procedure and ability to wait over a year, Konior or Keser.

The reality is the level of results in US are not unquestionably higher, people just tend to ignore small imperfections or bad results from US surgeons that they wouldn't elsewhere and drill the idea that technicians performing surgery is bad. Unconvinced that any in the US are a noticeable level above say a Feriduni, Freitas or Keser in Europe. 

Although Canadian, especially for FUT and high graft numbers where the price drops, HnW isn't what I would consider expensive though tbh. Very reasonable value. I think they also discount on future procedures.

No matter who you choose, I would go to a surgeon for whom you could afford more than one surgery with in the short term as very few get perfect results in a single pass and you're generally better off with more grafts and a second procedure than a surgeon who is already stretching the budget one a single run through.

where do you rank Rahal and Gabel in this?

i've narrowed it down to 3 who i'm interesting in using for when i pull the trigger on some hairline restoration. Nadimi is at the top of my list thus far, but sadly there aren't many patient reviews/photos of her work. I'm actually following and waiting on results from a few of you on here who have used her to help guide my decision. 

I've seen some great work from Rahal, but there's a few things i've noticed on results posted that lead me to believe not all his work is great, and there's just something too "informercial-ly" about his website. Not to mention low-lighting on results posted by his clinic (don't mind me, i just speculate a lot).

Dr. Gabel is another doctor who i've just come across, and most reviews i've seen about him are mostly positive. I'm still doing my homework on him though, but he seems to be widely considered one of the best in the field. 

any input from anyone would be awesome

how many grafts per square centimeter? just curious

was this a dense pack hairline? would you happen to know how many grafts per square centimeter?

i too am interested in this. i was told by dr nadimi, who was trained by dr konior, that anything more than 50 per square centimeter risks shock loss to native hair in the recipient area due to the lack of blood supply. i was surprised when i saw on dr keser's site that he's doing (or can do) 75 per square centimeter.

On 12/5/2018 at 2:34 AM, HarryHonolulu said:

Both her and Konior cap their FUE at 2000 grafts. They think anything more jeopardizes the donor area and that grafts are less likely to survive. They also think it’s in the patients best interest to preserve more donor for potential surgeries in the future.

I got 1800 from Nadimi and I’m a NW4/5. I’m just 3 months out and I’m starting to see growth. I’m so happy and really glad I didn’t panic and try to get the problem solved with a 5000 bad grafts somewhere else. I’m in my mid 30s.

yea, i think thats what she said too. she also doesn't think i really need any work at all. but i explained to her my profession and the need to "buy 5-10 years", so she capped it at 1500. i even asked her if it was possible for 2k and she shot that down immediately, because there's no such thing as preventative hair surgery, which i guess i agree with. i was pushing hard for FUT too but she said FUE is the better option for wearing my hair shorter (which i already knew) but my concerns were with destroying the donor area with FUE out of the gate. she assured me that the technology has been far advanced since the early days of FUE surgeries.

2 minutes ago, dtreidjr said:

Dr. Nadimi says that you do not have to be on it.  As I said above, there were some weird things that I didnt like and dont want to risk.  Some have side effects, some dont.  I'm going to wait another month and then go half dose and see what that does.

hmm okay. i just had my consult with her a few mins ago. that didn't come up, but i was quoted 1500 at the same price just to fill in my hairline. you were right, she's very straightforward. she's not going to tell you what you want to hear. i asked alot of questions and she was no bs about any of them. she's got my vote

have to question why you've stopped propecia...isn't staying on it recommended after a hair transplant?

harry can i see your pics?

any update on this?

wish i could help but i get a keratin treatment every 2 months and it actually makes my hair look thicker

6 hours ago, fortuneplant said:

 

wow thats some really good work. who was your surgeon? i like the appearance of a more staggered hairline as it looks natural IMO. some surgeons make it look too linear.

15 hours ago, fortuneplant said:

Are you going to lower your hairline? If not, 1500 is more than enough to cover your frontal portion. You might want to try out toppik powder (with the spray attachment as it's make application much easier.) so you have an idea how having a denser frontal hairline will look like. 

nah not lowering it really, i've grown fond of how it looks now and i think a juvenile hairline would look ridiculous on me. that being said, i'm more looking to fill it in and "widen" it a bit by filling in the temporal points slightly. nothing ridiculous

15 hours ago, fortuneplant said:

I've told no one - not even my closest friends, blood relations, acquaintance. I just wore the appropriate hats for months - say, caps for casual, beret/fedora for business/parties -  and just told everyone I have an unsightly wound and going through the healing process.

Being an NW2, by the time I showed my hair to the public, everyone just thought I looked better. (Did I have my face done,? What serum am I using? What supplements am I taking? No one noticed the hair except to say the hair style suits me.)

okay nice. you have pics? before/after/during?

18 hours ago, Dazed said:

Why would you have to hide for a year?  Nobody will notice as your new hair is growing in.  I think you are interpreting when people talk about a year they are more talking about thickness and density of the hairs.  You will be at ease a lot earlier than that.  Remember people aren't looking at you as much as you think they are.  They are too concerned about their own appearance.  Unless you were the hot girl in the office people don't notice you.

what if you're the hot guy in the office? lol. but all seriousness tho, thats why i made this thread...to see what other people's experiences are. i do, however, work in the entertainment industry, which is why i wanted to keep it as discreet as possible until it gets to the point where it looks like its just growing, so i wanted to get a little more in depth detail as to a timeline for being on camera purposes. but i do understand that everyone is different in that regard.