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I was just curious what the popular consensus was.

Any opinions would be very helpful. Thanks.

Great results. Look like a different person!

On 3/24/2022 at 9:48 AM, Hair56 said:

Hi everybody,

I want to thank this forum, for the great information. Specifically, to @digi23. Thanks to your advice I decided not to restore the temples.

As the topic says, I had approx 3200 grafts transplanted by Dr Resul Yaman in late march. The plan is to do weekly updates with photos. 

 

Their "certificate" says they implanted:

850 singles

1600 doubles

750 multiple

 

Things I liked:

1.      Great communication from the coordinator. Even late at night or early mornings he was available.

2.      Speaks English really well. Also speaks Spanish (This came in handy as I forgot how to speak English under anesthesia 😊)

3.      The pickup from the airport and all the transportation to the clinic was really well organized.

4.      The result is looking good, didn’t get infected, only minor post operative pain. No Inflammation in the eyes.

Things I did not like:

1.      We were told we would stay at hotel A and we planned to which nearby restaurants we could go. Upon arrival the driver took us to another hotel (Great hotel too) just didn't like the lack of communication. Also, there was some lame excuse that the WiFi stopped working in the other hotel so they decided to change. 

Again, the other hotel was OK, just the way it was done was not.

2.      They didn’t ask if I have allergies to drugs before the surgery, they asked mid surgery   when I was all dizzy. Thankfully I remembered I am allergic to penicillin.

3.      I got an IV during surgery and the nurse didn’t disinfect my arm prior to inserting the needle. I was so dizzy I didn’t want to argue with them.

4.      One of the nurses aggressively moved my head during the operation. The older one was more careful.

·         Also, after surgery they provide certificate with the number of grafts that were implanted. One of the patients had a typo in his name and asked them to fix it, the new certificate had a different number of grafts. I think its just an estimate and they don’t really count.

 

Overall, I'm satisfied with the surgery, just by tweaking these little things they could improve the experience for their patients.

 

I will be uploading images soon, would like to hear your thoughts.

 

 

 

Looks like good work.

Can you tell me roughly how long you spent with the doctor, discussing goals, hairline design and marking out the hairline also, please?

Will be following.

21 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Guys,

 I reached out to Dr. Yaman, and had a good conversation with him, he shared that these lower cost packages were necessary due to the pandemic. Moving forward, he will be raising his costs and removing the packages with less involvement. I stressed that we can only recommend surgeons who are involved in surgery. He’s currently investing in additional microscopes and creating a tool for measuring the cm2 area. 

I don’t believe any one result good or bad should be reflective of a surgeons entire body of work. I’ve asked him to reply here. He will soon.

Thanks for reaching out and to @Dr Resul Yamanfor explaining things. 

I feel very confident in choosing this clinic for a transplant. 

16 hours ago, AA1989 said:

I believe they are a recommend clinic on here?

I think @Melvin- Moderator should clarify if and how magnification is used?

 

Yeah, I agree. I do hope @Melvin- Moderator kindly reaches out to them for us. The more information we have in the forums, the better informed everyone gets in making big decisions.

I wonder if dr. Yaman does have the equipment and capabilities but chooses not to? Too time consuming perhaps?

1 hour ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

There are several clinics that don’t use loupes to implant grafts. So that in itself isn’t an issue. Honestly I don’t know why this keeps getting brought up. If the clinic is separating grafts properly after extraction, it shouldn’t make a difference. 

I think it got brought up because of all the multiples used in the hairline and temples. If it wasn't because of lack of using loupes, perhaps it was the separating process. But why.

As this thread is gaining a bit of traction, could you kindly reach out to Dr. Yaman to ask about microscopes being used and loupes for implantation etc? Just to confirm. As someone who is seriously considering surgery with him, it would be great to know and I am sure other members of the forum would appreciate the information to make an informed decision.

1 hour ago, digi23 said:

This is just pure speculation, but I find it hard to believe it is in any other way when I look at certain spots, I feel they just place the grafts wherever a incision has been made.

The reason I believe this is because in the middle part of the hairline, there are say maybe 50-100 singles, only singles in the exact same spot of approx 2-3cm, which makes it extremely low density in that area and then in the temples and hairline where those singles is supposed to be, all double and multiple grafts have been placed. It just doesnt make sense.

I have in one corner aswell, about 6 multigrafts sitting closely together, also this does not make sense at all. 

This is strange, as I have seem some really good work overall by Yaman. 

Without going back and reading, I think you said microscopes were used during preparation of grafts but  magnification at implant stage was not? 

How was the consultation phase? 

On 3/13/2022 at 10:11 PM, digi23 said:

Yeah but you dont get occassionally 300 multiples in the temples and 30 doubles and multiples in the front hairline. 

The 'low" number of 30 I am talking about is in the hairline, not the temples. All front grafts in the temples is also doubles or multiples. Some are 4s in the temple front row.

I assume they used all singles behind the front row, thats why the density is bad. 

I am going to have a new surgery at 12 months, need to cleanup the temples before and redo them. 

 

Was the need for a lot of singles and doubles discussed with you in the consultation? Did the say the could split multiples into singles etc?

The buck ultimately stops with the doctor but do you think the techs were ill informed of how temples and hairlines should be done?

Very interesting thread. Hop things improve somewhat for you.

On 3/11/2022 at 2:28 PM, digi23 said:

I made two GIF files aswell, you can see the empty patch in the upper temple at 6 months and the terrible looking temple points.

Still this is after about 200 grafts have been removed in 4 laser sessions. It looks MUCH better than it did a couple of weeks ago.

In my hairline I have some 20-30 doubles and a couple multiples. 

Please choose your Dr wisely. 

When you say 20 - 30 doubles in your hairline, is that more among the temporal area or all along the frontal forehead? It is hard to tell.

You do get occasionally doubles but usually a couple of millimetres back from the very front. Or so I was led to believe from research.

So you think you'll need singles to soften the frontal area?

On 3/11/2022 at 2:28 PM, digi23 said:

 

On 9/10/2021 at 11:30 AM, digi23 said:

So I will go through the process and tell you everything. 

 

Step 1: Got picked up at the airport by the nicest driver, very friendly guy. 

 

Step 2: He drove me to the hotel, I arrived late so blood work was done the day of the transplant instead of the usual the day before.

 

Step 3: Got into the hotel, a very nice 5 star hotel with room service which was very useful after the transplant and everything you need basically. 

 

Step 4: Got breakfast which was really nice one at the hotel, the driver was there to pick me up by the door outside, this was another driver, also very friendly guy. He drove me to the clinic.

 

Step 5: Clinc & the transplantation, so I arrived at the clinic and got to meet the Dr, the girl in the reception and Fikret which I had been in touch with planning the transplant. 

 

Step 6: The Dr did some checks on my hair, he was using some instrument which could see the follicles and their health. So as I previously said I have not been losing any hair for the past 7 years, he checked the donor area and said it was excellent, the top of my head he said was in good health and that I should not lose anymore hair there as it looks for now. He then measured my hair to be 0,45mm thick which is between thin and medium hair thickness. Thick enough for a good result he said, because they were going to make it very dense. Also I was asking what density my native hair had in the donor and he measured it to be about 65 grafts/cm2. So then he drew a temporary hairline which I agreed looked good, I did not want any unnatural hairline very low, I told him I want maximum density and we agreed. He calculated by measuring the empty spots for it to be 2475 grafts. Also for the grafts/cm2 for the transplanted hair it was said its going to be a little bit lower than my native hair, I think he said about 45 grafts/cm2 but with longer hair you should not notice because of "illusion of density".

 

Step 7: Proceeeding to get my blood work done by a cute girl who did possibly the best blood test I have ever done, she inserted the needle on the outer part of the arm instead of the usual innerside. Worked excellent, I hate blood work to be honest so this was great. The receptionist at the clinic was following me through these steps and she spoke very good english and was funny. 

 

Step 8: Draw the real hairline, which was done pretty fast since Dr Resul Yaman had before done a temporary line, he just made it more "perfect" the drawing on the skin and so he knows where to put the inicisions. 

 

Step 9: Local anestesia, so first Resul did some stapling which was "needle free" which to me hurt just as bad and I felt it was pretty bad also, it did not get very numb, then they did the real anestesia with needle and this was very painful, but as I am very afraid of needles and hate it it worked out pretty well anyways.

 

Step 10: Incisions, Dr Resul Yaman started to do the incisions and it felt nothing, just some weird noise in the skin. He also did some PRP.

 

Step 11: Extraction, the tech of Mohamed Yaman did almost all extractions with micromotor 0.8mm he said he used. He was very friendly and wanted to talk although he did not speak the greatest english we understood eachother perfectly fine. About when maybe 80% was done, Ufuk Yaman entered aswell and help him to pick up the hairs with some sort of tool. When they did maybe 50% themselves the other tech team which was going to do the implantation did come in and took over removing the grafts with the tool. This was pretty quick once they were punched out and I think up to 3 persons was working on my head.

 

Step 12: Lunch, so I got some lunch which was really good, some chicken with rice and some sweet stuff that was supposed to be good to get my blood sugar up.

 

Step 13: Implantation, they started again by giving me anestesia which was very unpleasant but pretty quickly until it was all numb again. Then they started to do the implantation, 2 techs, 1 guy and 1 girl, also another girl was in the room looking/helping the techs. She also gave me some serum which was supposed to be pain killer and antiseptic they gave me in the arm. During the implantation I felt nothing, it took pretty long time but its a very important step of course and they were good with me. 

 

Step 14: Extraction of another 150 grafts. So in the end of implantation they told me they needed some more grafts as they thought they could get some more grafts in there to get a even denser look as that was the point of it all. At this point I was really tired to I had to lay face down again and it felt like it took forever even though it probably took maybe 10-15 minutes and I am pretty sure it was done by the tech guy, not Ufuk or Mohamed Yaman.

 

Step 15: Another round of implantation with the newly extracted grafts. I dont really know if the incisions were made for these new grafts by the techs or if they counted wrong the first time around, maybe they did new holes for these they did not tell me alot. They just show me some spots that could be denser and they wanted to put more grafts. They were supposed to take 2475 grafts but they said they need 150 more so 2475+150 should be 2625, when I counted each micromotor punch from the "another 150 grafts needed" I got it to be just over 200. Total amount said on paper was 2550 grafts.

 

Step 16: I was cleaned abit and they check everything how it looks. Then they applied some antiseptic in the donor area and put bandage over, usually if they dont do temple work you are getting a headband.

 

Step 17: Back to the clinic in the morning after the procedure to get cleaned again and they remove the bandage on the back of my head. They put some more antiseptic on the back of my head. I was given some multivitamins and some more guidance about detailed post procedure routines as Fikret already told me everything the day before and you also get a paper with all the details you need to know. 

 

Dr involvement for me was pretty good, Dr Yaman was after he did the incisions, he was there basically once every hour or so and he was very professional and I felt safe the whole procedure with him coming in once in a while as always he was very respectful saying the right things. The only thing I think he left earlier before my operation was finished because he was in for a last time to examine when about 90% was done, then when we were done maybe 1 hour after the last check and went out he was not there and he did not come in in the end to examine. 

 

Something worth mentioning is that I think the team is very professional especially Dr Yaman, Fikret and Ufuk Yaman & Mohamed Yaman which did the extraction. The girl in the reception is very friendly and likes to speak to the customers. I felt like the tech team who did implantation was a little more just get it done type, the girl who did implantation was nice but the guy like push my head a couple times pretty hard when I was all tired and just tried to lay as good as possible, I think his name was Öguz but I do not remember last name as it was written on his shirt. 

 

Another thing is that usually in my country when you do something the Dr/Nurse is always telling you what is happening, they did not tell me anything while they just started all the phases, would be good if they could maybe tell you now we start with anestesia, now we start with extraction,  just a little bit left and you are good. Dr Yaman however did this, he told me as he was about to go into the next step. But maybe this is just because they are afraid to speak english, the only one with really good english is the receptionist and Fikret.

 

A little bible but this is pretty much the whole process.

Often coming back to this post for reference, so thanks.

I did want to know about carrying a lot of money on you to pay, as I found out that you must pay cash. Any tips on traveling safe with cash? Also what was the total in the currency you chose, if you don't mind me asking?

1 hour ago, digi23 said:

I have seen that you stated that you need temple work done, what has made you come to the conclusion that Dr Yaman is the go to guy for temple work?

More like the only Dr in the world that should be allowed to do temple work is Dr Juan Cuoto, thats how difficult it is.

There are always the top notch higher priced elites who would do almost perfect work. Like Couto, Konior, H&W etc to name a few.

Despite your slight displeasure with you temples, I think overall they look pretty good. Especially since you haven't reached 12 months. 

I like his work, his prices are good and most posts on here I like. 

As I said I haven't booked and at this point not sure of best package. I can't  remember as I type this, which package did you choose and why, if I may ask?

1 hour ago, JoeMan said:

I agree. I wouldn't let Dr. Yaman touch my temples if I was you. Have you looked at Dr. Biçer? 

Yes. Inquired but no replies to emails.

1 hour ago, Mugen904 said:

i sent you private message with all the info.

Ah, great. Thank you!

After another day of researching, emails and calls, I am close to pulling the trigger on going with dr. Yaman.

I require 3500 drafts approx. Around 1700 will be from beard.

Now, what package do people think is the best? DHI is more expensive but not prohibitively so.

I want to note that the beard hair will be to helpcamouflage 2 FUT scars, so is one process better than the other?

Would love some feedback and advice.

On 2/21/2022 at 5:37 AM, Mugen904 said:

Now 5 days post op, I have some yellowish pimples, Is this is normal? Also the black spot on the front was there since the surgery and it still there.

 

That looks like some nice clean work. 

Does dr. Demirsoy have another email address apart from the one on his site? I sent email and photos and they just bounce back.

6 hours ago, Skimzee said:

Hello all.

I was fortunate enough to get an appointment with Dr Couto and I’m now one month post transplant. I know sometimes his Instagram results seem unbelievable however I am more than happy to share mine. I am currently one month in and the shedding phase has well and truly started.

I will continue to add to this post monthly. All photos are taken at weekly intervals. 2700 grafts for frontal/mid scalp. Returning next year for 1500 grafts to cover the crown. Any questions please just let me know. 

 

S 

 

This looks amazing. So impressed by Dr. Couto.

May I ask how much per graft he charges? I have heard varying prices.

8 hours ago, MachoVato said:

Personally, I like Dr. Gur's work a little more. Here's a recent case.

 

Thanks. Yeah I saw this one. I have seen more of Turan's work and am impressed with both. Appreciate the input.

1 hour ago, Gasthoerer said:

The question is: Why and how did you narrow it down to this 2 clinics?

It is the same clinic both docs work at and I haven't narrowed it down. I'm looking at very affordable options in europe with some of the best work. This is the current clinic I am looking into.

I'm constantly doing research before I make a decision on wihich Dr. or which clinic to choose and I am currently looking into these two doctors. I was wondering what the best choice of the two seems to be?

Also does anyone know what they charge per graft and if they do BHT?

Thanks to anyone who can help.

On 2/8/2022 at 9:00 PM, GrahamDavid said:

That was from a profesional hair dresser so he straightened it perfect. 
ill

add some wet pictures. 
 

rhqnks man 

This result is great. They are on my maybe list now. What does Turan charge per graft if I may ask? €1.25 like Gur?

10 hours ago, slim999 said:

I checked with the clinic and they confirmed that Dr. Yaman will make the incisions under the DHI package. 

Thanks! I tried calling them but not luck. Great info.

On 1/22/2022 at 8:40 PM, alex_mil said:

Hi, I’ve made a mistake, the FUE offer from Yaman did include him doing the incisions, that bit was buried in another paragraph. Apologies. The DHI option did not appear to have him involved. May as well read the offer in full: 

Hello,

After carefully examining and considering all photos and information mentioned at your messages, Dr. Resul Yaman recommends for your operation about 3000-3500 grafts. Your donor area looks good. When you get this operation done your frontal hairline will be recreated with single grafts to receive a natural look and we will reach healthy density on frontal area. Dr Yaman recommends also to begin to use Propecia or Finasteride minumum 15 day before the operation. If you don't want to use Finasteride or Propecia, in Turkey there is a mixture multivitamines in pharmacies, you can use a multivitamine after the operation.

If you go ahead with Dr.Yaman you should arrive to Istanbul 1 day before your operation day. Once you arrive, you are picked up from the airport to clinic for your blood tests and consulatation with Dr. Yaman. After your consultation, we apply PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma ) to implantation area. 
PRP helps us for 3 important areas in hair transplantation procedure:
1.Keeping hair roots removed alive longer without any damage.
2.Faster recovery of hair follicles placed and to provide lesser loss
3.To stimulate and boost thin and weak hair follicles. 

About charges:
We offer 2 different promotional packages to our patients: 

1st Package: DHI with Yaman Implanter for 2900$ including;
* Pre and post consultations with doctor
* Blood analysis and PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma)
* DHI Operation
* Post operative control and cure
* Post operative medicines
* Special shampoo and lotion for the first 10 washing
* First washing by a specialist
* 3 nights 5* hotel (double room-breakfast inc.)
* Transfers (airport-hotel-clinic-airport) 

2nd Package: Sapphire FUE for 2000$ including;
* Pre and post consultations with doctor
* Blood analysis and PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma)
* Operation
* Post operative control and cure
* Post operative medicines
* Special shampoo and lotion for the first 10 washing
* First washing by a specialist
* 3 nights 5* hotel (double room-breakfast inc.)
* Transfers (airport-hotel-clinic-airport)

In the operation there are 3 major steps of the surgery which are incisions step, extraction step and implantation step. Incision step is the first step of the operation and it's performed with sapphiere blade by Dr. Yaman. I also confirm that your consultation, hair analysis, hairline design, local anesthesia and incision steps are completed by Dr. Yaman himself too. 
Extraction is performed with low speed modified micro motor by our extraction experts that have been trained by Dr. Yaman himself personally. They perform only extraction step of the operation. 
Implantation is performed in 2 different ways considering the package you choose. 

If you choose DHI with Yaman implanter; implantation is perfomed by the implantation team with Yaman Implanter. Dr. Yaman worked on developing Yaman Implanter for 5 years and 2 years ago he took its patent. Since than we have been using Yaman Implanter for implantation step. Our implantation team members have been educated and trained personally by Dr. Yaman himself only to use Yaman Implanter. 

If you choose Sapphire FUE; implantation step is performed by Dr. Yaman’s experienced implantation team carefully with FUE technique. 

All operations are completed under watch of Dr. Yaman himself. Here you can reach a video of operational steps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjQOXKa8wY&t=7s

Your bandage for one night is applied at the end of the  procedure and your file is given including recommendations and things to care for to have comfortable night. Your drugs are prescribed to use for 5 days. You may comfortably return to your work or home after the operation. 

You should visit our clinic on the next day or 2nd day and your hair should be washed by our nurses. Special lotions and shampoos are used during this washing procedure and you are recommended to wash your hair as instructed for 15 days. 

Our priority in our clinic is to meet your expectations completely and to provide the most qualified service by keeping your comfort on top level.
If you have any question I'll be glad to respond them. We're at your service. 

Best Regards,
Doga oksuzoglu

So is it conclusive that Dr Yaman does definitely not do the incisions on the more expensive DHI option? He just the cheaper straightforward FUE?

1 hour ago, Mugen904 said:

1.5 euro per graft. Total of 5.250 euros(6k US Dollars)

Looks great! I have been trying to phone them but to no avail. I'm trying to find out definitively if he does body hair transplants. Would you happen to know by chance?

On 1/31/2022 at 12:39 PM, Berba11 said:

As far as I'm aware he doesn't do BH, though your best option is to ask the clinic directly.

Thanks for the reply. That's a shame he doesn't but I have been trying to phone his clinic to ask some questions  but nobody picks up. Anyone else have this trouble?

15 hours ago, JC71 said:

Thanks! I looked at the website too and couldn't get prices, weird.

When it says FUT beard etc €4000 - any idea how many grafts that is for or am I misunderstanding the layout?